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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:34 PM Mar 2016

Democrats and Republicans Are Quietly Planning a Corporate Giveaway — to the Tune of $400 Billion

Why isn’t anyone talking about it?

By William Greider | March 7, 2016


People attend a rally outside of the office of Sen. Charles Schumer (D-NY) to protest an extension of tax breaks for the wealthiest two percent of Americans in December 2010 in New York City. (Photo by Spencer Platt/Getty Images)

Young people are the good news of 2016. They see the stressful realities of American life more clearly than their elders and are rallying around the straight talk of Bernie Sanders. Meanwhile, the big hitters back in Washington politics are working on an ugly surprise not just for the kids but for all of us — another monster tax break for US multinational corporations.

The bad news is that key leaders of the Democratic Party — including the president — are getting on board with Republicans, despite some talk about confronting income inequality. Influential Democrats intend to negotiate with Republican counterparts on the size and terms of post-facto tax “forgiveness” for America’s globalized companies. This is real money they’re talking about — a giveaway of hundreds of billions.

Why haven’t voters heard about this from candidates? Because Republicans and Democrats both know it would make angry voters even angrier.

The major multinationals complain about a tax problem that most citizens would love to have for themselves: Thanks to a loophole in the tax code, the companies do not have to pay US taxes on profits they have earned in foreign countries until they bring the money home to American shores. Altogether, the globalized US companies have accumulated $2.1 trillion in untaxed profits, most of it parked in overseas tax havens.

The multinationals are waiting for Congress to forgive them their debts.

snip* Senator Elizabeth Warren, as she often does, found the right words to describe this transaction. She called it “a giant wet kiss for the tax dodgers.” Warren and Senator Sanders have repeatedly charged that the system is rigged. What’s particularly outrageous about this new rigging of the tax code is that even though the politicians are engineering it in the midst of a presidential election, most voters don’t have a clue.

in full: http://billmoyers.com/story/democrats-and-republicans-are-quietly-planning-a-corporate-giveaway-to-the-tune-of-400-billion/

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Democrats and Republicans Are Quietly Planning a Corporate Giveaway — to the Tune of $400 Billion (Original Post) Jefferson23 Mar 2016 OP
I am so tired of this shit. No more negotiating. The middle class is now a minority. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #1
It is beyond disgusting, please consider emailing, tweeting this to any news publication you Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #2
That's a good idea. This needs more exposure. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #3
This Is Outrageous.... global1 Mar 2016 #4
Complain to every elected rep in your state. E-mail, tweet this to as many news publications, Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #8
This pisses me off to no end! Unknown Beatle Mar 2016 #80
Right and why voters are listening to Bernie. This approach to government is unsustainable Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #84
This Story Needs To Go Viral..... global1 Mar 2016 #5
So that's what's up behind the diversion. Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #6
Thank you for spreading it around. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #11
THIS is why they're desperately trying to stop Bernie. Avalux Mar 2016 #7
Yep and please spread it around...all your elected reps as many news publications etc.n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #9
I've already sent it out there. Avalux Mar 2016 #16
Back at ya. Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #17
You nailed it. Thank you for the highly accurate post. Enthusiast Mar 2016 #49
But all Bernie's ideas are unicorn dreams. kacekwl Mar 2016 #70
This has already been tried. SamKnause Mar 2016 #10
I believe it speaks to the control special interests have, and it is powerful. Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #15
donors = investors expecting a good return for their money. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #20
Absoultely pervasive, yes. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #21
3rd-Way turncoats will bring this country to its knees right beside them as they suck off global Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #12
Inb4 swarm'd, but +100. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #14
Spread this story around please, for what its worth..we can at least try and do that. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #18
The true SuperPredators we face. appalachiablue Mar 2016 #62
And, $400 billion are coming their way while the FCC throws $9.25 bones to the poor! Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #66
Hey they gotta pay back the wealthy donors some how. WDIM Mar 2016 #13
They're going to screw us again and insist that getting screwed is really good for us. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #19
I'm waiting to here the gnashing of teeth passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #39
Kick'n'rec (nt) pat_k Mar 2016 #22
So which social services will have to be cut in order to make up for the lack of tax revenue? liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #23
That's another reason Clinton uses words like "pragmatic" "realistic"..why she says, I am Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #25
I have friends who just lost their SSI and I have an autistic son who will be filing for SSI liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #27
Too many stories like that, and yet here we are. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #28
Hey you're going to be accused of being a purist. JRLeft Mar 2016 #24
ha ha don't I know it. Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #26
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I would avoid it too if I were voting in the primary for her. How much more evidence does a person Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #41
Hillary Clinton is for all of those corporate friendly policies. JRLeft Mar 2016 #46
Yes and here is what I don't know..what if any, concessions she will agree to in order Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #52
The primary is over....Hillary won. JRLeft Mar 2016 #53
If they feel they don't need him much going forward that is risky politics. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #55
Look for Hillary to ignore Bernie and move into GE mode in a couple of weeks. JRLeft Mar 2016 #57
Hillary supporters don't care about this issue. AtheistCrusader Mar 2016 #68
I believe that is especially true of her DU members, yes. I'm not convinced Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #73
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #64
Yes. A purist who "opposes vital infrastructure projects for poorest communities" 99th_Monkey Mar 2016 #69
But...but...it'll trickle down, won't it? I mean, it'll...trickle down? KansDem Mar 2016 #29
K n R!! bbgrunt Mar 2016 #30
Huge K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2016 #31
... and the third way / DWS / DNC are all ok with this... lastone Mar 2016 #32
Of course they are. It's good for the rich people BuelahWitch Mar 2016 #83
K & R AzDar Mar 2016 #33
Please chime in Hillary supporters. jalan48 Mar 2016 #35
The Hillary supporters on this board think she walks on water. LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #43
Massive +1! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #48
That's how I see it too, why go with the one who you know is compromised and is telling you Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #56
The wall street bailout was a big wet kiss that didn't stop them from anything passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #36
And the merging of the Dem Party and Repub Party on economic matters is almost complete. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #37
+1000000 liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #38
Check that. appalachiablue Mar 2016 #67
Why? PatrynXX Mar 2016 #40
I am asking if you would consider tweeting this to as many news outlets you can, they're Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #42
“a giant wet kiss for the tax dodgers.” FailureToCommunicate Mar 2016 #44
Thanks Jeff florida08 Mar 2016 #45
You're most welcome, please spread this around if you can..your elected reps, new outlets etc. Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #54
am on it- getting retweets already florida08 Mar 2016 #77
Great! Thank you. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #78
K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #47
Please spread this around, we can at least do that and complain to your congressmen. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #58
Spread the word. This is a good start. kristopher Mar 2016 #50
Yes, please do, as much as possible. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #59
Key quote ejbr Mar 2016 #51
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #60
You're always welcome. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #65
Study: Congress doesn't care what you think rurallib Mar 2016 #61
Thanks for adding it, much appreciate it and it's pertinent to say the least. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #63
As we bicker and squabble, the truth is our votes are almost meaningless. Vinca Mar 2016 #71
It sure as hell can be discouraging but we all need to push back even more than before. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #79
OUR CURRENT POLITICAL $Y$TEM IS CORRUPT TO THE CORE mhatrw Mar 2016 #72
How does one reconcile that and vote for her when you have an alternative? n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #74
You Bernie supporters have some serious issues! earthshine Mar 2016 #81
ha ha good one. Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #82
I'll be glad to help spread this around. Duval Mar 2016 #75
Thank you too! n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #76

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
2. It is beyond disgusting, please consider emailing, tweeting this to any news publication you
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:40 PM
Mar 2016

can..thank you.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
8. Complain to every elected rep in your state. E-mail, tweet this to as many news publications,
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:47 PM
Mar 2016

including tv news outlets..let them know you know they are not talking about it.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
80. This pisses me off to no end!
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:27 AM
Mar 2016

From the article: "Who’s colluding in the planned giveaway? Not just Republicans, but President Obama and Senators Boxer and Schumer, among others."

Barbara Fucking Boxer! Fuck! What a fucking letdown. Obama, doesn't surprise me in the least. Obama could have been a great president, but he chose to represent the 1% instead.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
84. Right and why voters are listening to Bernie. This approach to government is unsustainable
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:44 AM
Mar 2016

and Bernie will not and has not been embraced by the establishment within our party.
It us up to us to make the demands and why I get frustrated when people say he
is promising "free stuff"..it was never about that.

I suspect they would very much prefer to lose the WH than see his agenda
go forward. DC has been run this way decades before Obama became
president, so what we see is how much further entrenched special interests have
become in legislation. CU was the worst thing..a truly sickening of democracy.

Voters for Bernie realize we need to confront this problem and the one
best placed to do that is the one who is NOT the recipient of said monies.

Waiting For Everyman

(9,385 posts)
6. So that's what's up behind the diversion.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:46 PM
Mar 2016

More of the same disgusting sell-out crap.

Tweeted. Thanks for the post.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
7. THIS is why they're desperately trying to stop Bernie.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:47 PM
Mar 2016

I see no daylight between Democrats and Republicans when it comes to corporate welfare, Hillary included.

This should be all over the news and it isn't. The American people are living in Pravda's USSR.

kacekwl

(7,013 posts)
70. But all Bernie's ideas are unicorn dreams.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:36 PM
Mar 2016

How Mr. Sanders do you plan to pay for all these nice things ? Maybe if these fuckers pay tax on what they should, maybe if these corporations stop holding cities hostage by getting endless tax relief before they build a new store or stadium. WTF ? I know, let's elect Trump he will solve everything. Where am I for gods sake.

SamKnause

(13,087 posts)
10. This has already been tried.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:49 PM
Mar 2016

1. It failed miserable if the intent was to boost the economy and produce jobs.

2. It was an extreme success if was meant to fatten the wallets of the tax dodgers.

This leads me to believe their intention is number 2.

Fuck bipartisanship !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
15. I believe it speaks to the control special interests have, and it is powerful.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:52 PM
Mar 2016

Remember how Bernie said at one of the debates, when Hillary said WS
was only one street and he countered..NO, they are the most powerful
much more than most people realize.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
12. 3rd-Way turncoats will bring this country to its knees right beside them as they suck off global
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:50 PM
Mar 2016

corporations.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
14. Inb4 swarm'd, but +100.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:51 PM
Mar 2016

There's a Frank Underwood quote that goes with this kind of thing, I've found...

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
66. And, $400 billion are coming their way while the FCC throws $9.25 bones to the poor!
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:15 PM
Mar 2016

WIN, Bernie, WIN!

WE NEEED YOU!

WDIM

(1,662 posts)
13. Hey they gotta pay back the wealthy donors some how.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 03:51 PM
Mar 2016

When you are beholden to so many corporations how do you please them all at once? Give the tax dodgers a huge tax break.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
39. I'm waiting to here the gnashing of teeth
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:36 PM
Mar 2016

from the Hillary supporters when she approves the TPP, if she's elected.

But there won't be any, because they are OK with any and all of her policies.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
25. That's another reason Clinton uses words like "pragmatic" "realistic"..why she says, I am
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:07 PM
Mar 2016

not going to promise you much of anything...her meaning, imo.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
27. I have friends who just lost their SSI and I have an autistic son who will be filing for SSI
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:09 PM
Mar 2016

very soon. I am absolutely done with any politician of any party that is willing to give tax breaks to the rich and cut social services. My vote will never again go to any politician who does that.

Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #26)

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
41. I would avoid it too if I were voting in the primary for her. How much more evidence does a person
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:52 PM
Mar 2016

need to know? If you're not directly benefitting from this shit legislation voting
for Clinton is voting for the next enabler in chief.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
52. Yes and here is what I don't know..what if any, concessions she will agree to in order
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:43 PM
Mar 2016

to get Bernie's help for her winning the WH. I don't see how Bernie pulls off
a big win in Michigan, and it will only get tougher from here on out.

She may feel she does not need him, she certainly has the administration behind her and just
about every Dem governor etc. They can be rather arrogant and smug, so I don't know.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
68. Hillary supporters don't care about this issue.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:25 PM
Mar 2016

They simply don't.

If they do, it's proportionally negligible, compared to the agenda of simply electing Hillary.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
73. I believe that is especially true of her DU members, yes. I'm not convinced
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:52 PM
Mar 2016

most Americans voters know about this deal and how it links to her politics.

Response to Post removed (Reply #34)

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
69. Yes. A purist who "opposes vital infrastructure projects for poorest communities"
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:31 PM
Mar 2016

"The tax-forgiveness scheme could bring home hundreds of billions in supposedly “new” revenue for those vital projects.

For cynical politicians, the deal looks like a “twofer.” You can please constituents with infrastructure projects and reward corporate patrons in the same stroke."

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
29. But...but...it'll trickle down, won't it? I mean, it'll...trickle down?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:15 PM
Mar 2016

Trickle down? [font size="1"]Trickle down? it will, won't it? [font size="2"]

 

lastone

(588 posts)
32. ... and the third way / DWS / DNC are all ok with this...
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:31 PM
Mar 2016

We need Sanders and a whole bunch of other actual progressives to run the tables this election, anything else is the same ole people selling the same ole crap.

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
83. Of course they are. It's good for the rich people
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:34 AM
Mar 2016

They are all rich people. Their friends are rich people. Everyone else can go fuck themselves.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
43. The Hillary supporters on this board think she walks on water.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:11 PM
Mar 2016

There is nothing she could do or say that would upset them in the least. it's as though they've moved to Stepford and have lost critical thinking skills.

I admit I don't favor every one of Bernie's positions 100%. I wish he was stronger on gun control. But I do know he has spent his public life fighting for people like me and he hasn't lined his pockets by taking corporate money from crooks. In this election year, we have a clearly defined choice between a candidate fighting for change and a candidate who's in bed with the people who sent the economy into the shitter in 2008. I'm with the guy who has my back.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
56. That's how I see it too, why go with the one who you know is compromised and is telling you
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:52 PM
Mar 2016

she will not release any info about her communications with WS. Then her hawking for
war, what is positive about her? I have my differences with Bernie as well, although not
much..but they pale in comparison to Clinton.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
36. The wall street bailout was a big wet kiss that didn't stop them from anything
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:34 PM
Mar 2016

And now we want to do it again for corporations? Do we really think this will do anything to stop them from continuing this behavior?

We need a bigger set of balls. Sorry for the mental image, but it's the truth.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
40. Why?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:46 PM
Mar 2016

because some of them are Conservatives albeit just point me to known actual Liberals like Bernie otherwise it's just Conservatives who are hush hush

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
42. I am asking if you would consider tweeting this to as many news outlets you can, they're
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:00 PM
Mar 2016

ignoring the story. Whatever we have become it is clear we'll have to fight our way
out of it without their help. It is really up to us.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
54. You're most welcome, please spread this around if you can..your elected reps, new outlets etc.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:46 PM
Mar 2016

Let them know you know they're ignoring the story.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
47. K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations!
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:33 PM
Mar 2016

This illustrates how completely the political establishment is out of touch. And this is why you should give no credence to those that cry for austerity measures to deal with the deficit.

rurallib

(62,379 posts)
61. Study: Congress doesn't care what you think
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:07 PM
Mar 2016

Remember that story from not long ago?

Have you ever felt like the government doesn’t really care what you think?

Professors Martin Gilens (Princeton University) and Benjamin I. Page (Northwestern University) looked at more than 20 years worth of data to answer a simple question: Does the government represent the people?

Their study took data from nearly 2000 public opinion surveys and compared it to the policies that ended up becoming law. In other words, they compared what the public wanted to what the government actually did. What they found was extremely unsettling: The opinions of 90% of Americans have essentially no impact at all.

https://represent.us/action/theproblem-4/

Just in case we forgot, they will give us occasional reminders.


 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
81. You Bernie supporters have some serious issues!
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:10 AM
Mar 2016

Whereas Hillary supporters practice elitist identity politics.

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