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This got good response in the BS group, so I thought I would share with all: (Original Post) silvershadow Mar 2016 OP
He would make a great VP...n/t monmouth4 Mar 2016 #1
Wouldn't he? That would free up Warren to head to SCOTUS :)~ nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #2
I'd rather see Warren heading up treasury or the federal reserve or SEC magical thyme Mar 2016 #29
I'd love to see her heading up the SEC. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #35
I like this idea. nt Snotcicles Mar 2016 #64
--- ain't gonna be no new Supreme Court justice until President Sanders is in office. Hoppy Mar 2016 #50
I bet there is...unless they want to lose the house entirely. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #51
Me thins more than ever greiner3 Mar 2016 #74
BUT SCOTUS outlives every president angstlessk Mar 2016 #69
Imagine that brilliant pair on the same team. nt ladjf Mar 2016 #3
No he wouldn't, Hillary's corporatism would drive him mad. JRLeft Mar 2016 #4
I think he meant Sanders/Reich. [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2016 #6
That's correct. In my version, Hillary retires to spend time with her grandkids. nt silvershadow Mar 2016 #8
Not to mention Plucketeer Mar 2016 #18
He needs to be head of Treasury or Fed Reserve. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author SheilaT Mar 2016 #21
He doesn't want to be VP RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #24
"He's," as in Reich, chervilant Mar 2016 #37
Agreed. That's what I've been saying for ages!!! nt valerief Mar 2016 #52
Great idea! lostnfound Mar 2016 #53
Is Bernie being Dishonest? Cordy Mar 2016 #66
You must have just heard of him then. tazkcmo Mar 2016 #73
If he had done that he would have been ignored more than WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2016 #78
Excellent comment RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #7
A basic misconception of the DNC and MSM is that Democrats vote from fear. Ford_Prefect Mar 2016 #9
Yes. We don't trust Hillary. But we don't hate her. It's just that Bernie is the better candidate JDPriestly Mar 2016 #10
If we are so excited about Sanders, why isn't he winning like Trump is? bigwillq Mar 2016 #12
The Republican party has been splintering for a long time now. The Democratic party is just liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #13
Doesn't really answer the question. bigwillq Mar 2016 #14
I don't have a crystal ball which some Hillary supporters seem to think they have. liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #16
Ok. Thanks for the reply. bigwillq Mar 2016 #17
Because unlike tRump RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #25
Meh bigwillq Mar 2016 #28
You have done no research on this RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #30
Bernie may be getting less coverage bigwillq Mar 2016 #31
That is your opinion. He started this campaign with 3% support. Now he is nearly tied with liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #32
Bernie is doing much better than I thought he would bigwillq Mar 2016 #33
We shall see. As I have said earlier none of us have a crystal ball. Not long ago liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #34
No way! marions ghost Mar 2016 #45
Trump was running against 16 people at the start Kall Mar 2016 #43
You really need to ask that? chervilant Mar 2016 #57
Bernie lost in Detroit and the South. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #61
Take another look. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #68
Because certain people and organizations truebluegreen Mar 2016 #77
Ding a freaking ling. (Nt) ghostsinthemachine Mar 2016 #41
Nicely written lostnfound Mar 2016 #56
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #11
This is exactly true. bobbobbins01 Mar 2016 #15
I hate to disagree with Robert Reich who is a lot smarter than me but... Gary 50 Mar 2016 #19
For me, it's both whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #20
Most of those commentators hate the Clintons and assume everyone else does too.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #22
Sorry, I am not allowed to post in the Bernie Sanders group. longship Mar 2016 #23
I usually have nothing to do with candidate groups because of that. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2016 #38
Amazingly, I am allowed to still post in the Hillary group. longship Mar 2016 #39
I still post in the Hillary group. longship Mar 2016 #40
I inadvertently kicked a thread in the Clinton Group, no text at all, only the kicking donkey emoji Fumesucker Mar 2016 #65
I got banned from Sanders group for saying "Bye, Felicia" bigwillq Mar 2016 #44
That will always be a headscratcher. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2016 #47
I disagree. fun n serious Mar 2016 #26
K&R! nt Duval Mar 2016 #27
yes it is indeed azurnoir Mar 2016 #36
kick'n'rec (nt) pat_k Mar 2016 #42
kick kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #46
KnR Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #48
Super! amborin Mar 2016 #49
This post should have thousands of Recs. Octafish Mar 2016 #54
Yes it should. silvershadow Mar 2016 #55
+1,000,000,000,001 Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #59
thanks! that's certainly how I feel n/t renate Mar 2016 #58
That's how I felt from Day 1. pacalo Mar 2016 #60
100% spot on! SoapBox Mar 2016 #62
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Mar 2016 #63
Word deutsey Mar 2016 #67
The MSM sees everything as relative to Hillary eggman67 Mar 2016 #70
Love you, Hillary, but like Bernie's message more /nt philly_bob Mar 2016 #71
He's wrong. tazkcmo Mar 2016 #72
Hillary talks to rich people... she has skipped whereisjustice Mar 2016 #75
Agree... Mike Nelson Mar 2016 #76
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
29. I'd rather see Warren heading up treasury or the federal reserve or SEC
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:03 PM
Mar 2016

Someplace where she can use her deep understanding of the financial crisis to rein in Wall Street and/or punish the banksters.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
50. --- ain't gonna be no new Supreme Court justice until President Sanders is in office.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 08:50 PM
Mar 2016

We got that straight from the horse's as-- I mean Mitch McConnell.

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
74. Me thins more than ever
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:11 PM
Mar 2016

Come Bernie's and Trump's nomination they'll let Obama's MOTR's nominee be the 9th Justice Cause he'll get an anti Nazi of Scalia's bent through

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
69. BUT SCOTUS outlives every president
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 06:57 AM
Mar 2016

Being a part of the presidents inner circle ends with said president.

Response to monmouth4 (Reply #1)

Cordy

(82 posts)
66. Is Bernie being Dishonest?
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 05:55 AM
Mar 2016

I was trying to figure out why he is running on a Democratic ticket instead of an Independent or socialist?

tazkcmo

(7,286 posts)
73. You must have just heard of him then.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:13 AM
Mar 2016

Not a big surprise. He's only been around since the 80's. He gave an speech declaring his candidacy and did several interviews before that explaining why he ran as Democrat. You should check it out but the short version is so he didn't split the GE vote and hand the GOP a victory.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
7. Excellent comment
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 04:49 PM
Mar 2016

For far too long in this country, we've been conditioned to vote based on what we're afraid of or what we're against instead of what we aspire to and what we are for.

I want to aspire to a more just, equitable, and compassionate America.

And I'm for Bernie.

Ford_Prefect

(7,821 posts)
9. A basic misconception of the DNC and MSM is that Democrats vote from fear.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:18 PM
Mar 2016

If the Obama campaigns proved anything it was that positive goals and responses are what motivates most Democratic voters. The only thing fear tends to generate in democrats is lowered voting numbers, which seems to be the DNC plan for the primaries.

God help us if they win the nomination. It has been clear for some time that they will not help traditional democrats. That may result in fewer voters at a time when the GOP faithful are highly motivated. I do not advocate for fewer voters but I cannot help but observe that people tend vote their own self interest and I don't see that many independent voters or traditional democrats around here motivated to vote for the Party of the 1% one more time.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
10. Yes. We don't trust Hillary. But we don't hate her. It's just that Bernie is the better candidate
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:23 PM
Mar 2016

and we really, really want him to win.

Hillary just isn't what we want.

There is a reason that the American people are so enthusiastic about, on the Democratic side, Bernie, and on the Republican side, Trump.

Trump (and I'm sorry to give him a plug on DU, but follow my argument please) wrote a book that he named "The Art of the Deal."

Americans, both Republicans and Democrats at the grass roots, are very, very, very, very unhappy about the deal that our Republicans and Democrats in Congress and in the White House since Reagan have been making for us in the world and in dealings with big business, the multinationals.

We are voting in large numbers for those candidates who promise to fight harder for us and to negotiate and impose better deals that give us a fair break.

We are sick and tired of the politicians (and Hillary is one) who are too close to Wall Street, too close to those that we perceive as having cheated us of our birthright and our human rights (Bernie is right about healthcare being a human right; if you doubt it read the original Hippocratic Oath) and our prosperity -- that is the prosperity that helps the common person, i.e., most of us.

We want jobs, economic fairness and we don't like the deals that Congress and people like Hillary foist upon us. This is especially true with matters concerning trade and the environment.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
12. If we are so excited about Sanders, why isn't he winning like Trump is?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:30 PM
Mar 2016


Bernie will likely lose big is MISS and likely lose in MICH today.
And I don't see Bernie winning any of the states on March 15.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
13. The Republican party has been splintering for a long time now. The Democratic party is just
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:32 PM
Mar 2016

now showing signs of splintering.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
14. Doesn't really answer the question.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:33 PM
Mar 2016

So by that logic, Bernie WILL NOT win the nomination, correct? Since he probably doesn't have enough time for the party to splinter more, correct?

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
16. I don't have a crystal ball which some Hillary supporters seem to think they have.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:36 PM
Mar 2016

All I know is some of us have voted Democratic all our adult lives and are just now leaving the party. It may take a few more years for the Democratic party to fall apart as fully as the Republican party has. But both parties are splintering. 40% of Americans now consider themselves Independent. If Bernie doesn't win, it is only a matter of time before someone like Bernie wins.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
25. Because unlike tRump
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:59 PM
Mar 2016

the MSM has basically said as little as possible about Bernie. If he got the press coverage that Clinton or ANY of the RepubliCLOWN candidates have been getting, far more folks would vote for him.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
28. Meh
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:02 PM
Mar 2016

I think Bernie's gotten adequate coverage, and I don't believe that's the reason why he's not winning.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
30. You have done no research on this
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:07 PM
Mar 2016

You just "think?" Check out the mainstream media for the past year then tell me that again.
If you still believe it, I have a bridge for sale for you very cheap!

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
31. Bernie may be getting less coverage
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:12 PM
Mar 2016

but that is not the reason why he's not winning. His appeal is limited, he's a tough sell and he has a demographics problem. He has a strong and passionate base, but it's not enough to win the nomination.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
32. That is your opinion. He started this campaign with 3% support. Now he is nearly tied with
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:15 PM
Mar 2016

her nationally. Everywhere he goes when people hear about him the gap between her support and his support shrinks.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
33. Bernie is doing much better than I thought he would
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

But he still has limited appeal and problems attracting non-white voters. This is an issue during a primary. He will not win the nomination if these problems persist.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
34. We shall see. As I have said earlier none of us have a crystal ball. Not long ago
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:20 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary had over a 20 point lead over Bernie in Michigan. That gap has been eliminated much like it has been eliminated in many other states.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
45. No way!
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 07:45 PM
Mar 2016

has Bernie gotten the coverage the others have. That's the amazing thing about his candidacy--his supporters realize this media blackout and go for him anyway.

Kall

(615 posts)
43. Trump was running against 16 people at the start
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 07:36 PM
Mar 2016

5 until lately, and 3 now. None of whom are towering figures in the Republican Party. It's a completely different dynamic.

Be that as it may, if he gets to a general election, he'll have more of a case against Hillary on Iraq, trade, and money in politics than some people like to think. As I think the primaries are demonstrating, those things cut across party lines.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
57. You really need to ask that?
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 11:31 PM
Mar 2016

Trump and Hi11ary get more coverage by the M$M in ONE minute than Bernie gets in a day, even now. And, the Clinton juggernaut is relentless, particularly when it comes to promoting Hi11ary in whatever manner that makes her palatable and "electable." This is not a secret, nor is it surprising.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
61. Bernie lost in Detroit and the South.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:56 AM
Mar 2016

But if you look at the votes in the rural areas of Michigan, you will see Bernie winning by margins of 20 points.

So there is a split in the Democratic Party.

Bernie won -- lost in Detroit, but did well most everywhere else.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
77. Because certain people and organizations
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:57 PM
Mar 2016

have their thumb on the scale, minimizing media coverage, debate audiences, etc. TPTB do NOT want a Sanders presidency. Add to that universal name recognition (a good news/bad news thing in the GE) for Hillary and of course it is an uphill climb.

But Bernie didn't lose in Michigan did he?

bobbobbins01

(1,681 posts)
15. This is exactly true.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:36 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary just happens to be the epitome of what he speaks out against in the Democratic party. In many ways she is a blessing because the prime example is right there running against him.

Gary 50

(381 posts)
19. I hate to disagree with Robert Reich who is a lot smarter than me but...
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:50 PM
Mar 2016

I think the growing unease with Hillary is a large factor in Bernie's surge. I have been a Bernie fan for many years, and have called him my favorite senator since I got to know him through the Thom Hartman show's lunch (or brunch?) with Bernie. Hillary I had mixed feelings about but I mostly liked her. But she has proven herself to be an awful candidate. Her Rovian tactics alone disqualify her for the presidency. She lies, a lot. She changes her positions so often that you can find her making statements on both sides of just about every issue, so you never know where she stands today. Her coziness with wall street, accepting millions of dollars from them in both campaign contributions and speaking fees and then trying to tell us that all that money doesn't have an influence on her is impossible for any rational human being to believe. Her ridiculous and completely absurd stonewalling on the content of those speeches to wall street is indefensible. If there was nothing incriminating in those speeches why would she refuse to release them? She has obviously made the calculation that it is better for people to think the worst than to release them and confirm it. Bernie is a great candidate who can stand on his record is Robert Reich's point but Hillary's baggage is, to me at least, an equal part of the equation.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
22. Most of those commentators hate the Clintons and assume everyone else does too....
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:55 PM
Mar 2016

Certainly the typical Beltway cocktail party swills Clinton hate with their olive in their martini.

longship

(40,416 posts)
23. Sorry, I am not allowed to post in the Bernie Sanders group.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 05:55 PM
Mar 2016

This is regardless that I am a strong Bernie supporter. But if one defends the DU TOS in the Bernie group, one gets banned.

That is why I want nothing to do with that group.

BTW, I drove almost 15 miles around the national forest here to vote for Bernie in the MI primary. It was worth the effort.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
38. I usually have nothing to do with candidate groups because of that.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:44 PM
Mar 2016

The lockstep mentality is way out of hand in both groups this year.

longship

(40,416 posts)
39. Amazingly, I am allowed to still post in the Hillary group.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 06:59 PM
Mar 2016

But this absolutely nothing to do with my political position -- to support Bernie Sanders in the primary election. Instead, it has to do with my unwavering support for the Democratic Party, which the Bernie Sanders group will not abide. For shame on them for taking that tack.

This forum is not Bernie central. It is Democratic Underground, a partisan Web site. If one disagrees with that, one does not have to post here. A measure of this is that the only group I have on ignore is the Bernie Sanders group.

Their hosts are not working in their best interests.

Screw them.

on edit: I support DU and the Democratic Party. I also support Bernie Sanders. But when DUers state that if Bernie does not achieve the nomination that they will not vote for the Democratic nominee, we part ways. Apparently the Bernie Sanders group differs in that opinion. Screw them!

longship

(40,416 posts)
40. I still post in the Hillary group.
Tue Mar 8, 2016, 07:18 PM
Mar 2016

Since I am still allowed to do so.

But, I don't like to stir the pot much these days. I figure that we are all in this together. Apparently the utter fools in the Bernie Sanders group who support PPR'd posters who overtly violate the DU TOS disagree.

That is not a group that I want to be a member.

Regardless, I will support and vote for Bernie Sanders in spite of the jackasses here. I will also support and vote for the Democratic nominee no matter who it is. I think that is what my banning from the Bernie group is about. They want to openly flaunt the DU TOS and will ban anybody who supports it never considering that many Bernie supporters just want to see the best Democrat win and the alternative is too horrible to consider.

If one expresses that in the Bernie group, BAM! Banned!

Fuck em!

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
65. I inadvertently kicked a thread in the Clinton Group, no text at all, only the kicking donkey emoji
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 05:22 AM
Mar 2016


Yeah, that got me banned from there, my first and only post in that group.

And I haven't posted at all in the Sanders group.

eggman67

(837 posts)
70. The MSM sees everything as relative to Hillary
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 07:10 AM
Mar 2016

Because they cannot wrap their heads around the fact that it's Bernie's message that's resonating with people.

They're so deeply entrenched in their pit of cynicism, that they can no longer process simple truths. There is hope. These things they consider undoable can be done. America can be fixed.

Feel the bern!

tazkcmo

(7,286 posts)
72. He's wrong.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 10:09 AM
Mar 2016

It's ALL about Hillary! It's Her turn, dang it! She's earned it! Who has advocated for killing more people than Sec Clinton? Nobody, that's who! Who has evolved more often and as quickly as Sec Clinton? Again, nobody! Who supports women and children around the world by bombing the living shit out of them? Sec Clinton, that's who! With your support, she can be our first woman President to bomb a Middle Eastern country! Tell me that's not a big deal!

By the way, who is this guy? He acts like he knows something about the Clintons.










sarcasm

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
75. Hillary talks to rich people... she has skipped
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 12:29 PM
Mar 2016

a generation. Young people generally have no money.

But.. if you have trust fund, Hillary has your back.

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