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Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:32 AM

Delegates Count: Clinton 762 vs Sanders 544

2,383 delegates needed to win the nomination.

It's still pretty close, although you wouldn't know that from listening to the talking heads.

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Reply Delegates Count: Clinton 762 vs Sanders 544 (Original post)
TheDormouse Mar 2016 OP
dogman Mar 2016 #1
ibegurpard Mar 2016 #3
dogman Mar 2016 #10
LSK Mar 2016 #4
vintx Mar 2016 #14
Chakab Mar 2016 #6
dogman Mar 2016 #9
joshcryer Mar 2016 #19
davidn3600 Mar 2016 #7
Chakab Mar 2016 #12
JackRiddler Mar 2016 #2
mhatrw Mar 2016 #20
JackRiddler Mar 2016 #22
Gregorian Mar 2016 #5
TheDormouse Mar 2016 #16
dogman Mar 2016 #23
SDJay Mar 2016 #8
silvershadow Mar 2016 #11
TheDormouse Mar 2016 #13
closeupready Mar 2016 #15
jillan Mar 2016 #24
merrily Mar 2016 #17
WillyT Mar 2016 #18
TheDormouse Mar 2016 #21


Response to dogman (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:39 AM

3. if Bernie ends up with a pledged delegate lead

Going into the convention and super delegates swing it the other way the party is destroyed. Utterly.

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Response to ibegurpard (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:51 AM

10. That's why there will be a concentrated effort to stop him.

The kitchen sink is still being thrown at him. Moneyed interests are severely threatened.

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Response to dogman (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:39 AM

4. 1st year they counted super delegates this early....

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Response to LSK (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:55 AM

14. Even DWS has said it's wrong to report them!

 

In 2008, when Clinton ran against then-Senator Barack Obama, the Times treated the number of pledged delegates as the accurate and current delegate count in the race. The Times counted “only delegates that have been officially selected and are bound by their preferences.”

“The way the media has been reporting this is incorrect,” DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said on MSNBC on February 27. “There aren’t pledged delegates, i.e. super delegates, earned at any of these primary or caucus contests. Those unpledged delegates are elected officials, party leaders, people who have spent years and years in the Democratic Party. Members of Congress, our DNC members are super delegates. And they have the ability to decide who they choose to support at the convention at any point.”

“They’re really free to decide all the way up until July,” Wasserman Schultz added. She later added that combining “super delegates” with “pledged delegates” from primaries or caucuses at each phase of the contest does not provide an “accurate picture” of how this works.

In other words, when MSNBC puts up graphics like this, it is not reporting the truth of what is unfolding in the primary race:



from http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/03/07/clinton-benefits-us-medias-misleading-reporting-delegate-counts

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Response to dogman (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:40 AM

6. ...are anti-Democratic BS. If Bernie does beat the odds and win the regular delegate count, do you

 

think that the party would be stupid enough to give Hillary the nomination based on super delegates? There would be riots at the Convention.

Remember, she had the vast majority of super delegates locked up early the last time too. Most of them defected as Obama won more and more primaries and caucuses.

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Response to Chakab (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:47 AM

9. There is a good documentary on youtube about the 68 Democratic convention.

That led to the super delegate concept. There were some riots there. I remember watching a lot of the footage when it was on the local tv. I remember wondering if the candle light march at the end of the convention would end in another police riot.

As to this instance, I would hope common sense would prevail. I just wouldn't count on that coming from DWS.

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Response to Chakab (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:03 AM

19. I could see it if it's a narrow win.

Even if almost all of the supers switch sides there would be holdouts that wouldn't switch.

Say a 10-20 delegate lead by Sanders could probably be tilted the other way. Dean, for instance, says he's not switching and that he's using his vote the way he intends, etc.

It would be epically bad.

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Response to dogman (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:44 AM

7. If Superdelegates take it away from the voters....

 

....the Democratic party will burn down along with the Republicans.

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Response to davidn3600 (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:53 AM

12. Actually, in a perverse way, I'd like to see a situation where the DNC tried to give the nomination

 

to Hillary via superdelegates in tandem with a brokered convention on the Republican side where they tried to give the nomination to Romney. You would see the establishment in both parties lose all credibility and a wide scale revolt against the two party system.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:39 AM

2. South is over. The rest of the country is voting.

 

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Response to JackRiddler (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:03 AM

20. BREAKING NEWS: Bernie Sanders Has Now Won 9 of the Last 10 States Outside of the South!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511450690

Hillary will soon be fresh out of Southern states

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Response to mhatrw (Reply #20)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:13 AM

22. I think that's all of them, no?

 

Oh yeah, Nevada and Iowa and MA - 9 wins, 3 ties.

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Response to Gregorian (Reply #5)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:57 AM

16. different sources, different counts -- it's indeed confusing

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Response to TheDormouse (Reply #16)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:15 AM

23. On the link I posted you can uncheck the box

next to "Count unpledged delegates More info » " and it will subtract super delegates from the total

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:47 AM

8. Wait... According to MSNBC

It's like eleven billion trillion Brazilian for HRC to -326 for SBS.

I'm confused.

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Response to SDJay (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:52 AM

11. +1 Million. nt

 

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Response to SDJay (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:53 AM

13. lol

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Response to SDJay (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 01:55 AM

15. Why the confusion? It's a horse race, ergo,

 

Hillary is, de facto, our new two-term president!! Bernie should resign yesterday.

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Response to SDJay (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:18 AM

24. LOL!!! You were watching Kornacki too!

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:00 AM

17. BERNIE'S DOOOOOOOMMMEEEDDDDDDD!11!!1

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:01 AM

18. LOL !!!

 


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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Wed Mar 9, 2016, 02:04 AM

21. & the upcoming states won't be as demographically tilted toward HRC

as some of the states that have already voted have been, especially all those Deep South states

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