2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLet's play the truly nightmarish superdelegate game guaranteed to schism everyone
Most superdelegates should end up supporting who the people choose, right?
So, in the unlikely event that one candidate ends up winning the popular vote while the other wins the delegate count, which one should get the supers? No names in the scenario, so no bias to either candidate.
I'm going to go with the delegate leader, as that is the official way the party is measuring who wins, but holy shit, tell me that this scenario would not be a CF of massive proportions.
Edit: this is in regards to how people think the Superdelegates will blow up the party. The scenario described above is said to have happened in 2008 without too much of a ripple effect. I think I might have been either not too much or too much over the top in the OP. Ah well, it seemed better in my head.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)Godhumor
(6,437 posts)Which is my point with the dramatic hyperbole.
virtualobserver
(8,760 posts)If we had 50 primaries, I might give some consideration to the popular vote, but with our current mix of primaries and caucuses, there are no other options.
Godhumor
(6,437 posts)Ah well, I'm going to call it a good try and move on.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)all states should have primaries on or two national primary days in june ish, so the candidates have plenty of time to travel and campaign. publicly funded elections, of course. one person, one vote.
and lets ditch the ec while we are at it.
back in the real world, yes, if one candidate gets a pop vote and one gets delegates, it could be sticky depending on the spread of each.
and no more supers
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)won in each state based on popular vote?
The candidate would still need to reach some designated threshold (let the math majors figure that out) but it would eliminate delegates.
I am not good at math, and my idea is basically like allocating delegates like they do now, but it would eliminate delegates and super-delegates.
To break ties, just round up to the next number. (.5 or above, round up to next #. Example, 68.5, round to 69) (.5 or below, keep that number. Example, 27.3. Keep at 27).
I really have no idea but I am not a huge fan of delegates, super or otherwise. And it's not sour grapes. Would rather have the popular vote count, even if none of my candidates never win again. Just throwing an idea out there. It may be awful, and that's fine.
So, if the race ended today:
Hillary
50 (Iowa)
38 (NH)
53 (Nevada)
74 (SC)
78 (Alabama)
68 (Samoa)
66 (Arkansas)
40 (Colorado)
71 (Georgia)
50 (Mass)
38 (Minnesota)
42 (Oklahoma)
66 (TENN)
65 (Texas)
14 (Vermont)
64 (VA)
32 (Kansas)
71 (LA)
45 (Nebraska)
36 (Maine)
48 (MICH)
83 (MISS)
Totals: 1192 % 22=54.1
Bernie
50 (Iowa)
61 (NH)
47 (Nevada)
26 (SC)
19 (Alabama)
26 (Samoa)
30 (Arkansas)
59 (Colorado)
28 (Georgia)
49 (Mass)
62 (Minnesota)
52 (Oklahoma)
32 (TENN)
33 (Texas)
86 (Vermont)
35 (VA)
68 (Kansas)
23 (LA)
55 (Nebraska)
64 (Maine)
50 (MICH)
17 (MISS)
Total: 972 % 22= 44.1
Difference=220
Current pledged delegate difference=205
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)of how it compares to a pure pop vote.
agree that delegstes need to go away though
morningfog
(18,115 posts)more like a doomsday bomb. They may be deployed to stop a candidate, but it would Also destroy the party.