2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary's new disgusting smear: Bernie is the third Koch brother
Shameless.
Broward
(1,976 posts)She is morally unfit to be President. I can't express my disgust strongly enough.
amborin
(16,631 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts).
Or was it a fargin' cork sucker?
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dflprincess
(28,075 posts)at least Bernie managed to get that in.
Avalux
(35,015 posts)She has nothing left but to lob outrageous smears at Bernie. She cannot stand on her own merit and has zero integrity.
Jackilope
(819 posts)Hillary aka "Golden Handcuffs" has $$$ and a stamp of approval from 1%.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I see it's just noise coming from Hillary Weathervane again.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)Jesus, you people...
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)Thanks for your reply. Two sides to every story.
polly7
(20,582 posts)(best to keep on your good side).
Please continue with this attack. It will back-fire so spectacularly that your head will spin.
The artful smear is not going to work this time in Florida. She tried it in Michigan and it failed. It will fail yet again.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)I won't vote for the better candidate because someone I don't like said something supportive of them.
Cult of personality.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Tired of reading stupid inflammatory SHIT like this.
pa28
(6,145 posts)I've seen Hillary supporters refer to Bernie supporters (including myself) as "you people" many times now.
It's not very helpful.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)casperthegm
(643 posts)But the fact is that Hillary was trying to insinuate a cozy relationship between Bernie and the Koch brothers by pointing out the ad. There's no other reason for it. Why else mention it? Just to make conversation? This is politics and we all know the intent here. It's just another in a long line of smears.
And if her supporters have no problem with it, that's fine. I'm not surprised. But I suspect that Bernie supporters don't appreciate the insinuation. And if HRC gets the nomination she is making things that much more difficult to ensure that those Bernie supporters vote for her in the GE.
myrna minx
(22,772 posts)BernieforPres2016
(3,017 posts)and other industries by saying "the Koch Brothers ran an ad praising Senator Sanders". The ad by the Koch Brothers was attacking the corporate welfare program called the Export-Import Bank, or "The Bank of Boeing" as Bernie called it the other night. 40% of the funds go to Boeing. Bernie opposes that program, apparently so do the Koch Brothers. So she is trying to say the Koch Brothers like Bernie.
It's like saying Hitler likes dogs, I like dogs, therefore Hitler must like me and I must like Hitler.
John Poet
(2,510 posts)Some of us may not be able to watch.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Hint. Shameless political attacks and pandering ain't it.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Both Donald Trump and his rival Bernie Sanders have a point: The system is corrupt.
Here is business magnate and libertarian donor Charles Koch on Bernie Sanders:
The senator is upset with a political and economic system that is often rigged to help the privileged few at the expense of everyone else, particularly the least advantaged.
He believes that we have a two-tiered society that increasingly dooms millions of our fellow citizens to lives of poverty and hopelessness. He thinks many corporations seek and benefit from corporate welfare while ordinary citizens are denied opportunities and a level playing field.
I agree with him.
http://www.dailyreckoning.co.uk/economy/even-charles-koch-is-feeling-the-bern/
nolabear
(41,959 posts)God I'm sick of this.
Joe the Revelator
(14,915 posts)choie
(4,111 posts)Give me a fucking break!!!!
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)It's one thing they have right.
questionseverything
(9,647 posts)both positions bernie would agree with
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)That's a shame.
questionseverything
(9,647 posts)just saying it isn't the only thing L are right about
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:27 AM - Edit history (1)
questionseverything
(9,647 posts)climate change now
Armstead
(47,803 posts)The Kochs are two faced hypocrites....but that statement taken at face value is accurate.
If the Kochs or Trump said the sun rises in the east I'd also agree with that statement.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)...and Hillary uses this as an attack?
Damned revealing, no?
Stop being so disingenuous.
Sure they are factually accurate but it was used to smear him. It was used to deflect from her own bullshit. It was an artful smear. It was a rat-fucking.
Period!
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)That line about the million-dollar speeches for example? Where do you think that came from?
amborin
(16,631 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)The reason why Hillary Clinton wont release transcripts of her paid speeches is simple she knows they will show what a sellout she is. When she is paid $225K to speak at Goldman Sachs she is pro-Wall Street Hillary; when she is on the campaign trail trying to get left of a socialist, she is anti-Wall Street Hillary. And that is why no one trusts Hillary Clinton.
American Crossroads Communications Director, Ian Prior
https://www.americancrossroads.org/2016/02/go-ahead-hillary-prove-us-wrong-and-release-speeches/
TM99
(8,352 posts)But I expect the artful smear from every Clinton supporter I come in contact with.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Please tell us which parts of your quoted statement are incorrect, and why
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Stopped clocks are right at least twice a day
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Maybe it's an addiction to trying to hit below the belt
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Maybe that's the political culture there?
Nite Owl
(11,303 posts)make a shred of sense, I don't get it.
litlbilly
(2,227 posts)She seems to talk on and on about nothing. Ive never seen her like this before. Maybe is fatigue from last night would be my guess,
And with the Koch brother thing, all I can say is yikes
BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)Put a fork in MADame Secretary, she done!
amborin
(16,631 posts)Kittycat
(10,493 posts)Hoping something, anything will stick. Seriously. Minutemen, Koch brothers, repetitive spewing of already debunked lies (which just makes her a bigger liar). Whatever she has promised the banks, big oil, prisons, etc, must be significant, if she's going all out sewer.
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)Only one person on this stage who had a working relationship with the Koch brothers and it isn't me.
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)T'ain't Hillary's.
The reason why Hillary Clinton wont release transcripts of her paid speeches is simple she knows they will show what a sellout she is. When she is paid $225K to speak at Goldman Sachs she is pro-Wall Street Hillary; when she is on the campaign trail trying to get left of a socialist, she is anti-Wall Street Hillary. And that is why no one trusts Hillary Clinton.
American Crossroads Communications Director, Ian Prior
https://www.americancrossroads.org/2016/02/go-ahead-hillary-prove-us-wrong-and-release-speeches/
how much did they give to Bernie? nothing
Ino
(3,366 posts)while he had to answer to that ridiculous charge
This is her way now... just keep churning out lies with a self-satisfied smirk. What does she care? She has no shame.
"I'm not a natural politician like my husband and Obama." ROFL! She's not LIKABLE like her husband and Obama. She is an accomplished lying triangulating politician. And a CAREER politician as well as an establishment one.
questionseverything
(9,647 posts)that is something i would like to know
Uglystick
(88 posts)and pissing Florida off. I think she lost Florida tonight and the rest of the Super Tuesday Part II.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Our Dem Club meets this Saturday. Beginning to wonder what that is going to be like.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)She might want to think about these things before she sticks her foot in her mouth.
She's way more tied to the Koch brothers than she can credibly accuse Sanders of being.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)and she has said a lot of disgusting SHIT!!!
I hope she goes down, down, down asap.
I would NEVER vote for her - ever! Fuckin'.....
kennetha
(3,666 posts)creeksneakers2
(7,473 posts)But I think Hillary's statement about Bernie getting praise from the Koch brothers came after Bernie quoted some praise Hillary got from Wall Street. Looked like a fair response to me.
A disgusting smear is lying about what she said.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)that when she casts a stone, we're not stupid enough to not look to see where the stone came from.
So if she really thinks that tying Bernie to a Koch Bros ad makes him look bad, or WORSE THAN HER... She's oblivious to reality.
"LOOK THE KOCH BROS MADE AN AD FOR BERNIE!!!1!!"
Yeah but Bernie doesn't work with them and he didn't approve of the ad. What about those transcripts?
"BUT THE KOCH BROS AD BERNIE AghFDGOSJDGMHGFK!!!"
Octafish
(55,745 posts)The same DLC that turned over all its files upon disbanding to the Clinton Foundation?
No wonder the Clinton camp would say nice things about the Koch Brothers.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)Because if so, I don't think that will have the effect she's hoping for.