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Hillary's new disgusting smear: Bernie is the third Koch brother (Original Post) Joe the Revelator Mar 2016 OP
It's repugnant. That's what her and her slime masters came up with it. Broward Mar 2016 #1
+1.nt Snotcicles Mar 2016 #9
Head of Columbia U. Earth Inst Says same amborin Mar 2016 #40
Wait! Did she say Koch Sucker... TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #56
Note how she avoided mentioning the Import/Export bank is nothing but corporate welfare dflprincess Mar 2016 #2
No worries. He handled that one nicely. Avalux Mar 2016 #3
Bernie has consistently stood up for US. Jackilope Mar 2016 #4
She said that? bigwillq Mar 2016 #5
She said that the Koch brothers supported Bernie yada yada yada Joe the Revelator Mar 2016 #7
Blah blah blah bigwillq Mar 2016 #11
No, she didn't. She pointed out, truly, that they'd made an ad favoring him. nolabear Mar 2016 #10
I am Jesus. I'm glad "you people" recognize that. bigwillq Mar 2016 #14
Yo, Jesus! polly7 Mar 2016 #60
Go for it. TM99 Mar 2016 #25
Ok. PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #27
I assumed it wasn't true Dem2 Mar 2016 #34
"You people"? pa28 Mar 2016 #53
It's said in real anger. If your mileage varies I don't mean you. nolabear Mar 2016 #58
I don't take the "you people personally" casperthegm Mar 2016 #64
She also said he supported the Minutemen too. myrna minx Mar 2016 #13
She tried to pivot from the massive money she takes in from Wall Street BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #24
Thanks for that explanation... John Poet Mar 2016 #31
Wow. She has no clue how to win the Midwest. None at all. Barack_America Mar 2016 #6
As her desperation raises her actions get more disgusting. nt Snotcicles Mar 2016 #22
She appears to be be correct: ucrdem Mar 2016 #8
Facts? Facts? Why have facts when you can make rank accusations and get attaboys? nolabear Mar 2016 #15
Attaboy! Joe the Revelator Mar 2016 #19
Did he take money from them?? choie Mar 2016 #16
Newsflash: Libertarians oppose corporate welfare. Barack_America Mar 2016 #18
uummm also anti nsa and the secrecy of the fed questionseverything Mar 2016 #35
Yep. And me too. How about you? Pro-NSA? Barack_America Mar 2016 #39
not at all,i'm bernie all the way questionseverything Mar 2016 #41
Sorry, misread your message. Maybe I should turn off the debate, lol. Barack_America Mar 2016 #43
n/p bernie is tearing it up questionseverything Mar 2016 #46
And I agree with that statement Armstead Mar 2016 #20
So basically, Koch says something good for a change, agreeing with one of Bernie's core points... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #28
Oh come on. TM99 Mar 2016 #29
Facts are facts. I've been pointing out for months that Sanders is benefittng from RW superPACs. ucrdem Mar 2016 #36
from all the various progressive publications publishing this for many many months now amborin Mar 2016 #42
Guess again: ucrdem Mar 2016 #50
You are still completely wrong on this. TM99 Mar 2016 #57
Do you agree with those statements about the system, or do you disagree? arcane1 Mar 2016 #37
And if the Kochs said the sun rises in the East I'd agree with them Armstead Mar 2016 #62
She can't help herself, I'm beginning to think Armstead Mar 2016 #12
I was wondering - is it some kind of Chicago thing? flamingdem Mar 2016 #23
How does that Nite Owl Mar 2016 #17
so far, Hillary is really bad tonight. OMG, she has never been this bad. litlbilly Mar 2016 #21
Maybe she's drunk? BuelahWitch Mar 2016 #38
stimulants? they can cause giddiness amborin Mar 2016 #44
She's just slinging dogs hit at this point. Kittycat Mar 2016 #26
Bernie should have said Mnpaul Mar 2016 #30
And only one campaign is supported by Karl Rove's AmericanCrossroads SuperPac. ucrdem Mar 2016 #33
Supported? Mnpaul Mar 2016 #52
And she stood there with that smug smile... Ino Mar 2016 #32
how is she gonna reduce costs? questionseverything Mar 2016 #45
Hillary is way off tonight. She is misfiring Uglystick Mar 2016 #47
absolutely ugly -- gag oldandhappy Mar 2016 #48
Hillary's a cofounder of the DLC with Al From and Charles Koch. Chan790 Mar 2016 #49
THIS is the most DISGUSTING thing that she has said dana_b Mar 2016 #51
When is the truth a Smear? kennetha Mar 2016 #54
I don't have a transcript creeksneakers2 Mar 2016 #55
What Hillary doesn't understand is retrowire Mar 2016 #59
The same Koch Brothers who provided DLC with seed money? Octafish Mar 2016 #61
so now Bernie's a communist Koch Brother? azurnoir Mar 2016 #63
Were those actual words used? Matariki Mar 2016 #65

Broward

(1,976 posts)
1. It's repugnant. That's what her and her slime masters came up with it.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:04 PM
Mar 2016

She is morally unfit to be President. I can't express my disgust strongly enough.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
2. Note how she avoided mentioning the Import/Export bank is nothing but corporate welfare
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:04 PM
Mar 2016

at least Bernie managed to get that in.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
3. No worries. He handled that one nicely.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:05 PM
Mar 2016

She has nothing left but to lob outrageous smears at Bernie. She cannot stand on her own merit and has zero integrity.

Jackilope

(819 posts)
4. Bernie has consistently stood up for US.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:05 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary aka "Golden Handcuffs" has $$$ and a stamp of approval from 1%.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
14. I am Jesus. I'm glad "you people" recognize that.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:08 PM
Mar 2016


Thanks for your reply. Two sides to every story.
 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
25. Go for it.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:11 PM
Mar 2016

Please continue with this attack. It will back-fire so spectacularly that your head will spin.

The artful smear is not going to work this time in Florida. She tried it in Michigan and it failed. It will fail yet again.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
27. Ok.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:11 PM
Mar 2016

I won't vote for the better candidate because someone I don't like said something supportive of them.

Cult of personality.

pa28

(6,145 posts)
53. "You people"?
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:38 PM
Mar 2016

I've seen Hillary supporters refer to Bernie supporters (including myself) as "you people" many times now.

It's not very helpful.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
64. I don't take the "you people personally"
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 04:13 PM
Mar 2016

But the fact is that Hillary was trying to insinuate a cozy relationship between Bernie and the Koch brothers by pointing out the ad. There's no other reason for it. Why else mention it? Just to make conversation? This is politics and we all know the intent here. It's just another in a long line of smears.

And if her supporters have no problem with it, that's fine. I'm not surprised. But I suspect that Bernie supporters don't appreciate the insinuation. And if HRC gets the nomination she is making things that much more difficult to ensure that those Bernie supporters vote for her in the GE.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
24. She tried to pivot from the massive money she takes in from Wall Street
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:10 PM
Mar 2016

and other industries by saying "the Koch Brothers ran an ad praising Senator Sanders". The ad by the Koch Brothers was attacking the corporate welfare program called the Export-Import Bank, or "The Bank of Boeing" as Bernie called it the other night. 40% of the funds go to Boeing. Bernie opposes that program, apparently so do the Koch Brothers. So she is trying to say the Koch Brothers like Bernie.

It's like saying Hitler likes dogs, I like dogs, therefore Hitler must like me and I must like Hitler.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
6. Wow. She has no clue how to win the Midwest. None at all.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:06 PM
Mar 2016

Hint. Shameless political attacks and pandering ain't it.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
8. She appears to be be correct:
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:06 PM
Mar 2016
Koch Feels the Bern

Both Donald Trump and his rival Bernie Sanders have a point: The system is corrupt.

Here is business magnate and libertarian donor Charles Koch on Bernie Sanders:

The senator is upset with a political and economic system that is often rigged to help the privileged few at the expense of everyone else, particularly the least advantaged.

He believes that we have a two-tiered society that increasingly dooms millions of our fellow citizens to lives of poverty and hopelessness. He thinks many corporations seek and benefit from corporate welfare while ordinary citizens are denied opportunities and a level playing field.

I agree with him.


http://www.dailyreckoning.co.uk/economy/even-charles-koch-is-feeling-the-bern/

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
15. Facts? Facts? Why have facts when you can make rank accusations and get attaboys?
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:09 PM
Mar 2016

God I'm sick of this.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
20. And I agree with that statement
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:09 PM
Mar 2016

The Kochs are two faced hypocrites....but that statement taken at face value is accurate.

If the Kochs or Trump said the sun rises in the east I'd also agree with that statement.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
28. So basically, Koch says something good for a change, agreeing with one of Bernie's core points...
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:12 PM
Mar 2016

...and Hillary uses this as an attack?

Damned revealing, no?

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
29. Oh come on.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:12 PM
Mar 2016

Stop being so disingenuous.

Sure they are factually accurate but it was used to smear him. It was used to deflect from her own bullshit. It was an artful smear. It was a rat-fucking.

Period!

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
36. Facts are facts. I've been pointing out for months that Sanders is benefittng from RW superPACs.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:16 PM
Mar 2016

That line about the million-dollar speeches for example? Where do you think that came from?

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
50. Guess again:
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:33 PM
Mar 2016
GO AHEAD HILLARY, PROVE US WRONG AND RELEASE SPEECHES

“The reason why Hillary Clinton won’t release transcripts of her paid speeches is simple – she knows they will show what a sellout she is. When she is paid $225K to speak at Goldman Sachs she is ‘pro-Wall Street’ Hillary; when she is on the campaign trail trying to get left of a socialist, she is ‘anti-Wall Street’ Hillary. And that is why no one trusts Hillary Clinton.”

– American Crossroads Communications Director, Ian Prior

https://www.americancrossroads.org/2016/02/go-ahead-hillary-prove-us-wrong-and-release-speeches/
 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
57. You are still completely wrong on this.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:57 PM
Mar 2016

But I expect the artful smear from every Clinton supporter I come in contact with.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
37. Do you agree with those statements about the system, or do you disagree?
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:20 PM
Mar 2016

Please tell us which parts of your quoted statement are incorrect, and why

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
62. And if the Kochs said the sun rises in the East I'd agree with them
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:56 PM
Mar 2016

Stopped clocks are right at least twice a day

 

litlbilly

(2,227 posts)
21. so far, Hillary is really bad tonight. OMG, she has never been this bad.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:09 PM
Mar 2016

She seems to talk on and on about nothing. Ive never seen her like this before. Maybe is fatigue from last night would be my guess,
And with the Koch brother thing, all I can say is yikes

BuelahWitch

(9,083 posts)
38. Maybe she's drunk?
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:20 PM
Mar 2016
That Koch brothers thing was really, really, REALLY stupid because anyone who's been following him for some length of time (like 5 minutes of his stump speech) knows that Bernie blasts the Koch brothers by name.
Put a fork in MADame Secretary, she done!

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
26. She's just slinging dogs hit at this point.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:11 PM
Mar 2016

Hoping something, anything will stick. Seriously. Minutemen, Koch brothers, repetitive spewing of already debunked lies (which just makes her a bigger liar). Whatever she has promised the banks, big oil, prisons, etc, must be significant, if she's going all out sewer.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
30. Bernie should have said
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:12 PM
Mar 2016

Only one person on this stage who had a working relationship with the Koch brothers and it isn't me.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
33. And only one campaign is supported by Karl Rove's AmericanCrossroads SuperPac.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:14 PM
Mar 2016

T'ain't Hillary's.

GO AHEAD HILLARY, PROVE US WRONG AND RELEASE SPEECHES

“The reason why Hillary Clinton won’t release transcripts of her paid speeches is simple – she knows they will show what a sellout she is. When she is paid $225K to speak at Goldman Sachs she is ‘pro-Wall Street’ Hillary; when she is on the campaign trail trying to get left of a socialist, she is ‘anti-Wall Street’ Hillary. And that is why no one trusts Hillary Clinton.”

– American Crossroads Communications Director, Ian Prior

https://www.americancrossroads.org/2016/02/go-ahead-hillary-prove-us-wrong-and-release-speeches/

Ino

(3,366 posts)
32. And she stood there with that smug smile...
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:14 PM
Mar 2016

while he had to answer to that ridiculous charge

This is her way now... just keep churning out lies with a self-satisfied smirk. What does she care? She has no shame.

"I'm not a natural politician like my husband and Obama." ROFL! She's not LIKABLE like her husband and Obama. She is an accomplished lying triangulating politician. And a CAREER politician as well as an establishment one.

 

Uglystick

(88 posts)
47. Hillary is way off tonight. She is misfiring
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:27 PM
Mar 2016

and pissing Florida off. I think she lost Florida tonight and the rest of the Super Tuesday Part II.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
49. Hillary's a cofounder of the DLC with Al From and Charles Koch.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:30 PM
Mar 2016

She might want to think about these things before she sticks her foot in her mouth.

She's way more tied to the Koch brothers than she can credibly accuse Sanders of being.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
51. THIS is the most DISGUSTING thing that she has said
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:33 PM
Mar 2016

and she has said a lot of disgusting SHIT!!!

I hope she goes down, down, down asap.

I would NEVER vote for her - ever! Fuckin'.....

creeksneakers2

(7,473 posts)
55. I don't have a transcript
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:43 PM
Mar 2016

But I think Hillary's statement about Bernie getting praise from the Koch brothers came after Bernie quoted some praise Hillary got from Wall Street. Looked like a fair response to me.

A disgusting smear is lying about what she said.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
59. What Hillary doesn't understand is
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:53 PM
Mar 2016

that when she casts a stone, we're not stupid enough to not look to see where the stone came from.

So if she really thinks that tying Bernie to a Koch Bros ad makes him look bad, or WORSE THAN HER... She's oblivious to reality.

"LOOK THE KOCH BROS MADE AN AD FOR BERNIE!!!1!!"

Yeah but Bernie doesn't work with them and he didn't approve of the ad. What about those transcripts?

"BUT THE KOCH BROS AD BERNIE AghFDGOSJDGMHGFK!!!"

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
61. The same Koch Brothers who provided DLC with seed money?
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:55 PM
Mar 2016

The same DLC that turned over all its files upon disbanding to the Clinton Foundation?

No wonder the Clinton camp would say nice things about the Koch Brothers.

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