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I knew she would call him a communist tonight (Original Post) DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 OP
And desperate for him to... TCJ70 Mar 2016 #1
What is left? nt 7wo7rees Mar 2016 #2
Bernie is left. bunnies Mar 2016 #5
Bernie gave her an opening LittleBlue Mar 2016 #3
Bernie doesn't lie to make himself look good. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #30
Good points. n/t JimDandy Mar 2016 #33
Of course she did. She desperately needs those votes. Avalux Mar 2016 #4
I'll bet Bernie's fighting to keep a "cat that got the canary" look off his face. (nm) Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #6
I missed it. Did she actually call him a commie? Xipe Totec Mar 2016 #7
She didn't use the word "commie." She did it by insinuation. senz Mar 2016 #11
Done. $100.00 No, I'm not kidding. nt Xipe Totec Mar 2016 #19
One of the best investments we can make for our country's future. senz Mar 2016 #21
Done , double that one to HRC. pkdu Mar 2016 #34
She said he supports political tyranny based on a 1985 interview out of context Armstead Mar 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author senz Mar 2016 #16
Hopefully Tad Devine will have a chat with him about it Armstead Mar 2016 #17
Never mind that the abhorrent activities are activities she enables, Honduras for example. Eom Mika Mar 2016 #18
did she?! i'm not watching or listening; my husband is in another room and has the door shut, per m amborin Mar 2016 #8
Sanders should channel Gore Vidal, and return with a "Crypto-fascist" retort! TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #9
I spect her to go lower nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #10
Knew it was coming. Desperate. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #13
this was in 1985 Gwhittey Mar 2016 #14
"Pfff, 1985, who cares, that was ages ago." kjones Mar 2016 #23
Yep bravenak Mar 2016 #27
This was, she claimed, after Dr. King had a profound impact on her worldview JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #31
You cannot imagine what I was into between 15 and 22 bravenak Mar 2016 #32
I too had different views when I was 12 vs. today. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #35
It takes teenagers so long to get the stuff they think they already know bravenak Mar 2016 #36
I lost my virginity in 1985 Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #37
I waited until 98 or 99 bravenak Mar 2016 #38
I'm like "99? damn, bravenak, that's really old!" Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #42
It was no to DRUGs? bravenak Mar 2016 #43
Me, I was too high to get hung up on the specifics at the time Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #45
She was crazy if she thought that had a chance of working bravenak Mar 2016 #46
husband says pandering to the older Cuban-American vote amborin Mar 2016 #15
Seems like he did that himself when he praised Castro doc03 Mar 2016 #20
He did not "praise Castro." He was arguing against a U.S. invasion of Cuba. senz Mar 2016 #22
Don't know your age but crap was going on bad back then. Bernie was doing what the bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #29
Florida is up next, the red-baiting already in progress right on schedule. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #24
If your support for Hillary leads you to defend Batista or the Contras Mufaddal Mar 2016 #25
Remember, these are the people who think Kissinger isn't all that bad. [n/t] Maedhros Mar 2016 #44
No she didn't. fun n serious Mar 2016 #26
Yep bravenak Mar 2016 #28
Yup. lovemydog Mar 2016 #40
She didn't call him a communist tonight. lovemydog Mar 2016 #39
Refreshing that she supports freedom of speech for Cubans, despite making noises against it for us Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #41
It was more like "communist sympathizer". Not as bad. oasis Mar 2016 #47

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
30. Bernie doesn't lie to make himself look good.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:45 AM
Mar 2016

As someone pointed out, we trade with China, a totally Communist country insofar as its government is concerned.

Communism is a threat we can deal with.

Nowadays the big threat everyone is afraid of is terrorism, especially Muslim terrorism.

More Americans are killed in a year by our homegrown angry, crazy gun carriers than by terrorists.

But never mind.

As long as we have an enemy to unite against, I guess it makes people feel good.

I don't want Communism. But, why are we doing so much foreign trade with Communist countries?

Why do American multinationals invest so much in Communist China but we shouldn't trade with Cuba?

It makes no sense to me.
I'm not taking a stand on Communism, but rather I'm asking why saying something positive about Cuba is bad, but saying something positive about China and producing lots of stuff in China is OK.

Is Viet Nam no longer a Communist country? They are included in the TPP.

When is a Communist country that does not allow free speech bad? And when is it OK?

Does anyone know?

Is it really about Communism?

To your post. Bernie has integrity. That's why we trust him. Bernie is not going to lie to us just because it would make him look good to people with a special bone to pick with Cuba.

And I am not approving of Cuba's civil rights record. Nor is Bernie.

But we have to pick our enemies carefully. We can help Cubans more if we do business with them even if they are a repressive Communist country.

And they do train a lot of doctors and have good systems for medical care and education.

But the Cuban government stole a lot of property from Cuban middle class citizens. And that is also a fact.

But it was also a long time ago.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
4. Of course she did. She desperately needs those votes.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:56 PM
Mar 2016

This has been quite a spectacle, listening to Hillary filibuster without any substance. I'm not upset she got more air time, she did herself in.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
7. I missed it. Did she actually call him a commie?
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:59 PM
Mar 2016

Tell me honestly. There's another Bernie Sanders donation hanging in the balance.

If she called him a commie, I'll gladly drop another $100 into the Bernie donation box.

Response to Armstead (Reply #12)

 

Mika

(17,751 posts)
18. Never mind that the abhorrent activities are activities she enables, Honduras for example. Eom
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:12 AM
Mar 2016

amborin

(16,631 posts)
8. did she?! i'm not watching or listening; my husband is in another room and has the door shut, per m
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:59 PM
Mar 2016

my request;

what a shameless monster

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
14. this was in 1985
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:09 AM
Mar 2016

If you look for a video tape of me in 1985, you would probably find me trying to light my farts and winding up burning my ballsac hair...So.

kjones

(1,053 posts)
23. "Pfff, 1985, who cares, that was ages ago."
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:56 AM
Mar 2016

"What, Hillary was a Goldwater girl as a teenager in the early 60's? Burn her!!!"


JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
31. This was, she claimed, after Dr. King had a profound impact on her worldview
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:47 AM
Mar 2016

Not sure what Goldwater and Dr. King could agree on, but I suppose she had her reasons.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
35. I too had different views when I was 12 vs. today.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:58 AM
Mar 2016

Education has generally made me more liberal. But that is neither here nor there.

The point is we are talking about the same period of history; how can you meet Dr. King and be profoundly impacted, her words, and then turn around and support Goldwater the next year. That is inconsistent, and has nothing to do with her current worldview.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
42. I'm like "99? damn, bravenak, that's really old!"
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:25 AM
Mar 2016




You know according to the late Mrs. Reagan, we were all supposed to be "just saying no" during the 80s.

It would appear.... some of us did not.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
45. Me, I was too high to get hung up on the specifics at the time
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:51 AM
Mar 2016

but I believe sex was supposed to fall under that umbrella as well. It was implied, at least.

You didn't miss much. The 80s were mostly a cultural wasteland.

doc03

(35,326 posts)
20. Seems like he did that himself when he praised Castro
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:14 AM
Mar 2016

I was starting to think he may have a chance. I don't think a video of him standing up for Fidel Castro
will go over very well, it sure turned me back to Clinton.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
22. He did not "praise Castro." He was arguing against a U.S. invasion of Cuba.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:51 AM
Mar 2016

He was talking to a specific decision process under debate in the U.S. at that time.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
29. Don't know your age but crap was going on bad back then. Bernie was doing what the
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:41 AM
Mar 2016

other poster said.

Mufaddal

(1,021 posts)
25. If your support for Hillary leads you to defend Batista or the Contras
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:36 AM
Mar 2016

Then it's time to rethink your entire life.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
26. No she didn't.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:39 AM
Mar 2016

She did not say him specifically. She condemned Castro when they showed the video, Bernie did not.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
41. Refreshing that she supports freedom of speech for Cubans, despite making noises against it for us
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 03:19 AM
Mar 2016

This is, of course, the person who sponsored flag burning legislation directly contrary to the 1st Amendment, whose husband repeatedly tried to censor the internet with unconstitutional "communications decency" legislation, and who even recently treated "freedom of speech" as a cue-the-eyerolls line in a bit (echoed almost identically by Donald Trump) about censoring speech online.



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