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pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:01 AM Mar 2016

Reporting MSNBC Rachel Maddow

I have been watching Maddow for years and love her smart, thorough analysis of an issue.

Right in the beginning of the primaries, Bernie said that he will achieve his proposals because he will raise voter turnout. There was a article saying the Democratic turnout was low and Republican turnout was high. . .that was right after the first primary state, Iowa. Already trying to discredit him.

Rachel did at least 2 segments on different nights about Bernie's failure to raise turnout.
However, since that time, Bernie has won 3 states where those states said he broke the previous record for turnout. I think they were Kansas, Maine and Michigan.

When this started to happen I emailed Rachel and asked her if she was going to report that Bernie was actually starting to raise turnout. She has not.

With every state he broke the record for turnout, I emailed her asking her if she would correct this error. She has not.

Yesterday evening, she did a piece on voter turnout about how Trump was getting large turnout. I expected that this would be the time she would mention that Bernie has broken 3 records. But again, after saying that Trump had raised turnout for the Republicans, she said that Democratic turnout is still down.

What can be done? I mean, when even honest-to-a-fault Maddow refuses to give Bernie the credit he deserves. . . . that is shocking. Maybe others can try to email her about this . . . . . rachel at msnbc dot com


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Reporting MSNBC Rachel Maddow (Original Post) pdsimdars Mar 2016 OP
Rachel's paycheck is dependent Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #1
And her tax accountant has warned her about Sanders. n/t Wilms Mar 2016 #10
Want to know why SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #42
she is a reporter but not a journalist Gwhittey Mar 2016 #60
yep - and her paycheck trumps everything else Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #62
Just turn it off. Really turn off cable news forever musiclawyer Mar 2016 #65
I don't watch it. Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #67
She gets to fat of a paycheck to deviate from the talking points that her employer wants to sell. CentralMass Mar 2016 #2
Maybe the "honest-to-a-fault Maddow" has left the building. djean111 Mar 2016 #3
Yeah. That women has left the building, the parking lot, and the city limits. GoneFishin Mar 2016 #29
Agreed. I stopped watching about 3 years ago. Myrina Mar 2016 #30
She would make any liberal's head clank, she is libertarian, not liberal. Todays_Illusion Mar 2016 #57
I haven't watched MSNBC in over a year dragonfly301 Mar 2016 #4
Olbermann, Schultz and Harris-Perry are unemployed DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #5
Psst!..Ed is on RT doing the prime time news!! n/t tokenlib Mar 2016 #21
No longer employed at MSNBC DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #23
Don't forget Cenk too! Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #41
I love me a whole lot of some Rachel, but... CincyDem Mar 2016 #6
I've listened since AA, as well. Kittycat Mar 2016 #31
I agree with you. I probably wasn't clear. CincyDem Mar 2016 #58
Yeah Kittycat Mar 2016 #63
Why bother? She's gone over to the dark side tularetom Mar 2016 #7
So disappointing casperthegm Mar 2016 #8
Ms Selective Outrage only likes facts that support what she is trying to sell. n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #9
White House Press Secretary in a Clinton Administration? MgtPA Mar 2016 #11
Well considering a press sec in the B. Clinton administration debated the meaning of genocide when Skwmom Mar 2016 #35
Anyone else jehop61 Mar 2016 #12
typical of Hillary supporter (and GOP for that matter).. . avoid the issue and attack the messenger pdsimdars Mar 2016 #17
"issue" - this is an issue? a newshow anchor does not report things the way you would like DrDan Mar 2016 #28
It's a very obvious an issue when bias is clear and pressent. Bubzer Mar 2016 #40
this was not something "presented as news with an intact bias", it was something DrDan Mar 2016 #59
and this is why in part I don't pay much attention to pundits-everyones on someones payroll azurnoir Mar 2016 #13
Rachel sold out to the establishment left-of-center2012 Mar 2016 #14
Numbers don't lie. She showed how many voted in 2008 and 2012 in comparison. We are down. What Pisces Mar 2016 #15
As said in the OP pdsimdars Mar 2016 #18
His number is NH for example were a record, but that was because it was only a two person race Lucinda Mar 2016 #66
Hillary has won more votes so far than Bernie. That is the truth. Plus she has won more pledged beaglelover Mar 2016 #16
Keep believing sweetheart. Keep those dreams alive. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #19
And a huge investment to Kimberly-Clark Uglystick Mar 2016 #45
I will darling. beaglelover Mar 2016 #56
"That is the truth." "That is the truth." Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself Impedimentus Mar 2016 #24
that is the truth that is the truth that is the truth that is the truth marions ghost Mar 2016 #37
Mrs Clinton winning is a presumption. malthaussen Mar 2016 #44
She has won more votes... ConsiderThis_2016 Mar 2016 #52
Change the channel. The msnbc we used to like watching jillan Mar 2016 #20
Bingo SmittynMo Mar 2016 #27
I've noticed that my lesbian friends are very fond of Hillary latebloomer Mar 2016 #22
it's a conspiracy . . . obviously a well-planned conspiracy DrDan Mar 2016 #25
Don't count on someone to say something their paycheck depends on them not saying. onecaliberal Mar 2016 #26
A private email probably won't do anything. noamnety Mar 2016 #32
Throw Maddow under the bus! She's just a shill for Clinton! Nitram Mar 2016 #33
they are ALL ACTORS...and they have parts to play... islandmkl Mar 2016 #34
Like I said before Loki Mar 2016 #36
She Shills for Hill. SoapBox Mar 2016 #38
MSNBC is owned by Comcast abelenkpe Mar 2016 #39
/r/conspiracy Dem2 Mar 2016 #43
It is sad the way MSNBC has changed since Comcast took over. Duval Mar 2016 #46
Rachel is a total sellout Nite Owl Mar 2016 #47
Maddow has rode off in the sunset erlewyne Mar 2016 #48
Comcast / NBC Universal / VOX... vs WAPO ect. ConsiderThis_2016 Mar 2016 #49
I am fucking done with her. Last night she spend a total of 10 seconds, no exaggeration, on Bernie's Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #50
I haven't had cable for at least 4 years so... artislife Mar 2016 #51
I'll stick with Amy Goodman from now on. leveymg Mar 2016 #53
It is not just Maddow OwlinAZ Mar 2016 #54
Rachel is in Hillary's corner madokie Mar 2016 #55
She's dead to me. Duppers Mar 2016 #61
THE MSM Media wants one thing houston16revival Mar 2016 #64
Worse yet, she reported the silver lining, or something like that, in MI was the turnout, best since Land Shark Mar 2016 #68

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
1. Rachel's paycheck is dependent
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:07 AM
Mar 2016

upon Comcast -- a major contributor to the Clinton campaign. Rachel says, or doesn't say, whatever is ordered by her corporate masters. Emailing her is an exercise in futility.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
42. Want to know why
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:45 AM
Mar 2016

to quote the OP: "she said that Democratic turnout is still down."?

According to a 3/8/16 analysis by the Pew Research Center Dem voter turnout this year is 11.7% compared to 19.5% in 2008.

The reason for Rachel being a part of the conspiracy to spread this information -- is because it is true and she is a reporter. Sorry, but the facts need to fit your outrage and narrative if you want to be taken seriously.

 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
60. she is a reporter but not a journalist
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:36 PM
Mar 2016

A journalist would tell it in context, that even tough we had record turn out in xyz states turn out is still low. Context is important.

Having a Headline "Man Eating Chicken found in deep south" Is true but is it Accurate?

musiclawyer

(2,335 posts)
65. Just turn it off. Really turn off cable news forever
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:21 PM
Mar 2016

Watch TYT , free speech tv , democracy now.
The faster cable news dies the better America becomes
Watching is the problem not the solution

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
67. I don't watch it.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 07:47 PM
Mar 2016

I finally got cable for the first time in years but only for the elections/debates. Other than that, I don't even turn it on. I get everything online.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. Maybe the "honest-to-a-fault Maddow" has left the building.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:08 AM
Mar 2016

What I have been noticing lately is the attitude that it is okay to lie, to twist, to omit, to misrepresent - if it is in service to getting Hillary elected.

I have never been able to watch Maddow. The drawn-out teaser stuff reminds me of the "Your water may be dangerous! News at 11!" and "Is a killer loose in YOUR neighborhood? We will tell you at 11!" crap. Her mannerisms and her portentousness over what is usually nothing make her unwatchable to me.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
30. Agreed. I stopped watching about 3 years ago.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:20 AM
Mar 2016

Her style drove me up the wall. And not in a good way.

dragonfly301

(399 posts)
4. I haven't watched MSNBC in over a year
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:11 AM
Mar 2016

but from what I'm reading on blogs, it appears that Rachel and Chris Hayes have sold out. You expect that kind of irresponsible slanted journalism from Tweety but it saddens me that Maddow and Hayes are doing it too.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
5. Olbermann, Schultz and Harris-Perry are unemployed
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:13 AM
Mar 2016

I think she's seen the writing on the wall and made her career choice.

CincyDem

(6,351 posts)
6. I love me a whole lot of some Rachel, but...
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:13 AM
Mar 2016


...in spite be being one of, if not the top draw in MSNBC's commentator line-up, Rachel is still an employee. I think she's a brilliant student and analyst of political environments including the corporate political environment. I'm sure nobody has told her to bend her coverage one way or another and if they did, I'm sure she would react with integrity.

At the same time, she can easily look at the changes that Comcast has brought to MSNBC. She can easily read what those changes mean for the overall message track at MSNBC. And she can see how her message needs to fit into it.

I've watched her since the day she started at MSNBC and listened to her on Air America before that. I think she's great. At the same time, I think she's laser focused on retaining her voice in the fray...even if it's only 80-90-95% of the voice she might want because of her corporate sponsors.

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
31. I've listened since AA, as well.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:21 AM
Mar 2016

A couple years ago, I tuned out of cable news. Life, time, preference in online reading vs opinion news. Recently checking back in to cable for election coverage.

And there was Rachel. I always liked her. Loved her show even. I can remember being so excited, I could barely contain it when she made the leap to cable. But here is where I'm going to disagree with you. While I'm sure that she was astute enough to see the writing on the wall, I think she either fell in line or sold out for either personal or professional gain.

After listening to her lately, she's lost all credibility in my eyes. She, above Schultz, Olbermann, all of them was the most fact based in her approach, imho. She shared her opinion, but presented the facts clearly. That Rachel is gone. All I could think was, Damn. I was one of her cheerleaders. Such a let down. Now she sits on the shelf of ethical has beens with Gov. Dean.

CincyDem

(6,351 posts)
58. I agree with you. I probably wasn't clear.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:05 PM
Mar 2016


I think she's bending to the corporate will. My point was that I'm not sure someone had to hit her on the head with a baseball bat to bend her but she has bent.

I'm not sure I go as far as calling her an ethical has been but I don't have her on the same pedestal she was on before.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
7. Why bother? She's gone over to the dark side
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:13 AM
Mar 2016

She's now part of the A-team she gets to rub elbows on a regular basis with Chris Matthews, Brian Williams, Chuck Todd, and maybe even Tom Brokaw once in awhile. Pretty heady stuff and she isn't about to say anything to jeopardize that.

You may yearn for a return to the MSNBC of the Keith Olbermann days but that will never happen. It's Comcast all the way now and you know what that means.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
8. So disappointing
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:13 AM
Mar 2016

I used to watch CNN but felt there was a bias there, particularly with the inclusion of the super delegates in the overall count. So I switched to MSNBC to give them a try, only to experience what the op has posted. What ever happened to simply reporting the news in a straightforward, unbiased manner? Is there no place to get the actual news any more?

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
35. Well considering a press sec in the B. Clinton administration debated the meaning of genocide when
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:29 AM
Mar 2016

the mass killing was taking place in Rwanda, I'd say the ability to demonstrate selective outrage and only look at selective facts would be a plus.

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
12. Anyone else
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:37 AM
Mar 2016

who is a progressive, but not in the tank for Bernie, left that Bernie-folks haven't thrown under the bus yet?

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
17. typical of Hillary supporter (and GOP for that matter).. . avoid the issue and attack the messenger
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:10 AM
Mar 2016

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
28. "issue" - this is an issue? a newshow anchor does not report things the way you would like
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:08 AM
Mar 2016

and it becomes an "issue"?

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
40. It's a very obvious an issue when bias is clear and pressent.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:40 AM
Mar 2016

News is unbiased... anything presented as news with an intact bias, is not news...but propaganda.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
59. this was not something "presented as news with an intact bias", it was something
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 02:28 PM
Mar 2016

the OP thought should have been included but wasn't.

no bias. not an issue. just someone trying to make an issue out of literally nothing.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
15. Numbers don't lie. She showed how many voted in 2008 and 2012 in comparison. We are down. What
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:02 AM
Mar 2016

more do you want. The Republicans are up.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
18. As said in the OP
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:12 AM
Mar 2016

in 3 states Bernie broke records. . . Yes numbers don't lie and I don't think those states lied about their numbers. Get it? Bernie broke the records in those 3 states, just like he said.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
66. His number is NH for example were a record, but that was because it was only a two person race
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 06:00 PM
Mar 2016

so instead of splitting them between several candidates, as occurred in 08, it was basically split between BS and HRC, and a few to MOM. But the overall numbers this year were lower than in 08. I suspect the same thing applies to the other states you are talking about. Good numbers for a two person race, but not increased turnout.

beaglelover

(3,466 posts)
16. Hillary has won more votes so far than Bernie. That is the truth. Plus she has won more pledged
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:04 AM
Mar 2016

delegates than Bernie. Hillary will be the D nominee in November. That is the truth.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
19. Keep believing sweetheart. Keep those dreams alive.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:14 AM
Mar 2016

Oh, and get a big stockpile of chocolate to help you through.

Impedimentus

(898 posts)
24. "That is the truth." "That is the truth." Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:38 AM
Mar 2016

Good luck with that one - didn't work for the Flat Earth Society.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
37. that is the truth that is the truth that is the truth that is the truth
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:36 AM
Mar 2016

"the truth" of Hillary's inevitability is a bit more in question these days....

donut?

jillan

(39,451 posts)
20. Change the channel. The msnbc we used to like watching
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:16 AM
Mar 2016

No longer exists. Try CNN. Even Wolf Blitzer shows Bernie more respect than Maddow.

latebloomer

(7,120 posts)
22. I've noticed that my lesbian friends are very fond of Hillary
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 10:32 AM
Mar 2016

and seem to be blind to her obvious failings, even when pointed out to them. Seems like they see her as a heroine. Could this be the reason for Rachel's support? Though I'm not discounting the sold-out-to-Comcast aspect.

onecaliberal

(32,826 posts)
26. Don't count on someone to say something their paycheck depends on them not saying.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:02 AM
Mar 2016

She's a sellout. She's a corporate propaganda spreading mouthpiece.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
32. A private email probably won't do anything.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:24 AM
Mar 2016

Public shaming seems to be the only way to get results - IF a person or company is willing to change. Twitter, facebook, blog comments that are read by others might have more effect than a private email.

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
34. they are ALL ACTORS...and they have parts to play...
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:27 AM
Mar 2016

sometimes, just like a soap opera, their character gets a change of direction...

you want news?....go to Amy Goodman, among others...but don't look for news journalists on the M$M...

it is just entertainment...a sad excuse for entertainment....

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
39. MSNBC is owned by Comcast
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:38 AM
Mar 2016

You're never going to get anything except news that supports their corporate interests. Ditch cable. It's a ripoff anyway. And losing revenue is the only thing corporations understand v

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
46. It is sad the way MSNBC has changed since Comcast took over.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:49 AM
Mar 2016

It used to be our source of good info, but not anymore. It is NOT news, but opinions/propaganda. Someone mentioned Amy Goodman. She's great, as is Thom Hartmann, Larry King and Ed Schultz.

Nite Owl

(11,303 posts)
47. Rachel is a total sellout
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:51 AM
Mar 2016

used to watch her but quit MSNBC after the firings last year. The only time I watched was for the Dem debate they sponsored. She has totally changed, who knows if this is the real Rachel or the other one was the real one. All about the $$$$$$$$$ now.

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
48. Maddow has rode off in the sunset
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 11:52 AM
Mar 2016

with MSNBC and the DNC. She used to be my favorite
but I never expect to watch her again ... like MSNBC.
The DNC has to get rid of its DINO's and it has more than
a few.

ConsiderThis_2016

(274 posts)
49. Comcast / NBC Universal / VOX... vs WAPO ect.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:00 PM
Mar 2016

In praise of Lying Brian, her paycheck takes priority over the truth. Money tends to corrupt, remember? Just like Lobbyist Howard Dean and the Dollar.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
50. I am fucking done with her. Last night she spend a total of 10 seconds, no exaggeration, on Bernie's
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:00 PM
Mar 2016

Michigan win. The rest was all GOP, all the time. Fucking disgraceful.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
51. I haven't had cable for at least 4 years so...
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:02 PM
Mar 2016

I don't watch any of them except forclips here and there. That being said, I remember early in 2008, she was kind of torn between Obama and Hillary. She said she had a lot of friends who were upset she wasn't coming down on this young upstart to hilary. I think she always liked her and now more than ever, it is her turn in her mind.

So in conclusion, I think she was always very fond of hillary and now she wants her to win.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
53. I'll stick with Amy Goodman from now on.
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:13 PM
Mar 2016

DemocracyNow! is a proven good thing. MSNBC was always just slick packaging.

Watch the latter, now and then, just to pick up on the latest meme and that they are still just operating with smoke and mirrors. Now just another CNN clone.

 

OwlinAZ

(410 posts)
54. It is not just Maddow
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:20 PM
Mar 2016

It is MSNBC in general. It is not just MSNBC it is the cable news industry.
None of the cable news channels are anything but corporate shills.
Even Lawrence O'Donnell of MSNBC has lost his nerve and conscience.
Believe it or not, the old channels still give us some real news and I've gone back to watching them.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
55. Rachel is in Hillary's corner
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 12:23 PM
Mar 2016

In case you hadn't noticed. I'm sure that has something to do with it.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
64. THE MSM Media wants one thing
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 05:10 PM
Mar 2016

Money

Close elections drive viewer interest and political advertising revenues

They will do anything to keep it close and in the political middle or middle right as we know

Land Shark

(6,346 posts)
68. Worse yet, she reported the silver lining, or something like that, in MI was the turnout, best since
Thu Mar 10, 2016, 09:36 PM
Mar 2016

George Wallace right after being shot and the sympathy vote that followed. But no mention I heard of Sanders, his win in Michigan, or anything else. She found nothing in that historic upset win by Sanders except the bright spot of turnout.

Don't know that I've ever heard something as one-sided as her coverage. She should reaign, in protest if she is under pressure, or in shame if not. Fox is more "fair and balanced."

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