I'm flabbergasted by Rachel Maddow. Last night she spent exactly 10 seconds reporting Bernie winning

[Fast Walker 52]

in Michigan. No analysis, she just simply said it was an upset. Then she immediately pivots to a recall petition for Snyder. Then a too long historical bit on George Wallace getting shot in 1972 and then winning the Michigan primary with a record turnout. Then a guest talking about how great the GOP turnout this year was. Then some stupid waste of time story about plane noise complaints at Reagan National. That was the whole show. Bernie was only mentioned after 35 minutes at the start of the show about the GOP race and endless stop Trump CRAP. I don't think Hillary's win in Mississippi was even mentioned.

Fucking liberal media.

I'm so incredibly disgusted with her at this point. What a disgrace. What a sell-out.

She's been annoying for a while but usually makes it up with some interesting takes and analysis. But after last night, I'm freaking done with her.

[onecaliberal]

1. Welcome to the club.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

2. There was just no time

Trump's Steak, Wine and Golf Club Infomercial lasted 40 minutes. She can't be expected to cut away from that to discuss something silly like the biggest primary upset in recent history.

[Joanie Baloney]

4. I hate the Trump Show too

But I don't think it's Rachel's call on how long they cover Trump's rallies. What she says when they let her speak is on her, but not what they decide to broadcast.

-JB

[brush]

14. Well why is she still there? Melissa Harris Perry spoke out about that and left.

This is not new for Maddow. She's been regurgitating 24/7 repug stuff since the purge of all the progressive hosts (of which she used to be one, allegedly) several months ago.

[Joanie Baloney]

20. MHP was preempted

and not included in their primary coverage. A little different. And, maybe Rachel is voicing her concerns, just not publicly.

Dunno for sure.

-JB

[brush]

24. MHP was preempted for their primary coverage which wasn't to her liking, true . . .

IMO it's not that different so I still don't see why Maddow is still there.

With her credentials and smarts she would land on her feet if she left.

She's made tons of money while there.

Guess it's about "principle" though, if you have them.

I remember her on "Air America" and pre-purge MSNBC and never thought she'd ever stay and just be a mouthpiece for 24/7 repugisms.

[merrily]

57. Voicing her concerns privately is not meaningful.

[PatrynXX]

63. only way her overlords will get the message

is her viewership will collapse . So she's either going out a winner or a loser. Melissa went out a winner, so people will be speaking of her for alot longer than when Rachel gets canceled for low ratings. and her overlords will still never get the message.

[ladjf]

90. We can only make an obvious guess. Money. nt

[pdsimdars]

39. No. That may be the way you want to think about it but it is not so

Even last night she said that Democratic turnout is LOW. If she had time to say that, she had time to mention that Bernie has broken turnout records in 3 states, as reported by those states. If she had the few seconds to dis him, she would have had time to have mentioned that.

[lark]

56. Bet this is by MSNBC mandate.

They are totally in the tank for Trump. Wonder what he's paying them for this or is it threats rather than bribes that's the motivation?

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

61. He's good for ratings.

I don't think there's any more to it than that.

[avaistheone1]

62. i always thought Rachael is someone who would bolt under such a mandate.

She certainly must have socked away enough money by now.

[lark]

65. Yeah, it is disappointing.

I used to make MSNBC my evening watching, but no more. They died the day Comcast bought them out. First it was Keith, then Young Turks, then Ed, then MHP - enough is just damn well enough. So sad to see Rachel morph from crusader to insider, but that's what it looks like for the most part now. I hope she will either leave or become more independent and restore her reputation.

[Plucketeer]

74. I'd like to see her leave MSNBC too.

But I'm sure her life is comfy for now and she's liking things just the way they are. Sure - there's all the censoring she has to deal with, but that big paycheck and all the trimmings - She's just one more Howard Dean.

[Capt.Rocky300]

80. Well said.

[Divernan]

72. It's the Clinton sydrome - you can never have enough $$$$.

[avaistheone1]

82. Sounds like they share this disorder with the 1%.

Greedy, greedy, greedy.

[G_j]

3. very disappointing

that money seems to have trumped her credibility.

[disillusioned73]

22. I see what u did there..

[tomm2thumbs]

53. you also described Hillary in the same sentence

funny how that works

[Gregorian]

5. She's a paid representative.

TV tends to not be liberal because it's so expensive. If we paid her to do her own show, it would be different. She may be a liberal, but the media isn't.

I don't turn tv on. But if I did, the last thing I would expect to hear from it would be liberal ideas.

It's why Noam Chomsky doesn't have a show. You will never see him on tv.

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12. what's insane is that this kind of biased crap in one reason they are doing so badly

it's like a downward death spiral.

[Trajan]

6. If you had been listening ...

You would already know that there is NO Liberal major media outlet ... none ... nadda ....

This has been known for a very long time .... Rachel has been in the tank for the 1% for at least a month ...

A girl has to make a living ....

[Fast Walker 52]

13. I know, but I held out some hope for Rachel

But this year, an almost complete disgrace. She has done some good things in recent months, like break the Flint water story and the methane leak in SoCal, but I can't take her shtick anymore.

[pdsimdars]

40. Like you wonder about all the millionaires

How many millions are enough? I'm sure she gets MILLIONS every year. I could live out a nice life with only ONE million.
How empty do you have to feel to need millions upon millions to feel "secure"?

[Dustlawyer]

47. This is why Bernie has pledged to break up the media oligarchy.

The networks use OUR PUBLIC AIRWAVES UNDER LICENSE!!! They should be REQUIRED to tell the truth. The BS exception that Fox News carved out when they won their appeal in Florida for deliberately lying was because Fox News is actually "entertainment" and not news needs to be overturned by statute. News should be news with journalist required to fact check their stories like they used to. Call out lies from politicians when they hear them instead of just repeating the lies verbatim and hiding behind "We just reported what they said."

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

51. Cable TV isn't public airwaves. They can get away with crap for that reason.

[merrily]

73. If people on public airwaves had to be bit fair, at least we'd have that.

[Dustlawyer]

75. That's why I specified the Networks. You are right about cable, but a few good statutes could fix

them too!

[merrily]

59. YES! Great comment.

[TexasMommaWithAHat]

7. She's on my permanent ignore list

Just the sight of her makes me sick, now.

[Lizzie Poppet]

8. I don't find her insightful (or relevant) any more.

Just part of the background noise these days...

[stillwaiting]

9. The Pods got her in her sleep.

Or, she was informed by our Intelligence Agencies that we can not ever rebuild the Middle Class/Working Class without a likely complete and utter destruction of the planet and possibly even our species. And, now she is part of the Establishment Media that catapults propaganda and attempts to manufacture consent to avoid legitimizing policies and politicians that would rebuild the Middle/Working classes.

Or, she simply sold out for the money.

All I know is that I can NOT believe this is the same person that I used to respect so very much. Truly heartbreaking for me.

[Wilms]

10. She ALWAYS struck me as someone good for a fling.

And I don't do flings.

So, no. I am hardly heart-broken.

[oldandhappy]

11. Do not watch!!!

Seriously. The only thing we have is to reduce ratings. BBC, PBS, TYT Please ignore cable. I do watch NBC evening news, I confess. But nothing else from the cable clinton campaign.

[Fast Walker 52]

15. I actually don't watch but listened to the commercial-free podcast

so it was tolerable, but wow, I can't even do that anymore.

[oldandhappy]

17. understand

I watched until a week ago. smile. Then watched CNN over the weekend because I saw a post that said they were better. Finally found TYT and give up on cable. BBC has a half hour on our local PBS station and I try to remember to watch that. Whatdayaknow? World news! And then PBS has one hour later.

I am sorry about Rachel. She is smart. She has to know she is doing it. Maybe she is hanging on for after the election. But once you have been controlled as she has been controlled, freedom doesn't come back easily. There is no where for her to go. And I have choices!

[Fast Walker 52]

27. Very true-- there are better shows out there

I like "Democracy Now!" a lot, but it's tedious sometimes and I like to have more diversity too.

[Fuddnik]

16. I turned off MSHRC a long time ago.

Rachel used to be a bright spot. Not anymore.

And, I'm getting rid of cable this week-end, so I can't even accidentally watch them anymore.

[Coincidence]

29. I'd suggest getting a Roku, I cut the cord 4 years ago and haven't looked back. nt

[CharlotteVale]

18. I thought she showed her true colors 4 years ago when she devoted a show to

her good friend Cory Booker so he could redeem himself for defending Bain Capital. Told me all I ever needed to know about Rachel from then on.

ETA: I wouldn't put up with that from any other journalist and Rachel Maddow is no different.

[Marr]

67. I remember that, too.

I was truly confused by it. Before that, I'd assumed she was to the left of the Cory Booker types, not among them.

[Todays_Illusion]

19. Since I first heard of her and heard her attacking Obama, I consider Maddow to be libertarian, not

liberal. And Hillary Clinton is also more conservative/libertarian, than lliberal that is what that third way bunch is all about.

[think]

21. There really is no reason to watch MSNBC anymore. Comcast boiled it down to corporate

talking points.

[merrifield]

44. I agree.

I've quit watching anything on MSNBC. So sad. They're in the corporate tank. Tweety is so pro HIllary I ended up banning him weeks ago. Have added the entire network now. . .

[Octafish]

23. That way she doesn't talk about what Bernie stands for.

You know: "The more people get to know Bernie, the more they like him."

So, let Hillary's side define him as a comsymp.

[Fast Walker 52]

30. True-- She devotes no time to his issues

it's 99% horserace and historical stuff.

[Octafish]

88. What a story!

What story?

PS: Watch Wolf Blitzer go into overdrive next election night as he reports the results. The guy's breathless as he spits out even the fractions of percentages in the neck-and-neck too-close-to-call contest.

Then, think of Nigel.

[ejbr]

25. She has her marching orders

Ask Melissa Harris-Perry

[Fast Walker 52]

32. good point. I wonder how much longer she will stay

If she had any respect, she would get out now. Maybe she is just a huge sell out though.

[Coincidence]

26. The past year or so has shown me an alternate side to so many people, pundits, and news outlets...

...some for the better but most for the worse. As far as network news goes, I've moved almost entirely to RT: Ed Schultz, Thom Hartmann, pretty much the entire cast are smart, solid, progressive voices.

New RT slogan: Corporate American media got you down? Let Russian state media turn that frown around!

[Fast Walker 52]

35. Ha! It's certainly corporate America's fault.

[BernieforPres2016]

41. Thumbs down to Ed Schultz

2 days ago he said he didn't blame Hillary for cashing in with all the corporate speeches, anybody would do the same in her position. Anybody who says that and claims to be for Bernie doesn't get the whole point of Bernie's campaign.

[Coincidence]

49. I haven't got the impression that he's been taking it easy on HRC in the least. [nt]

[dreamnightwind]

58. He's just guilty of giving too much benefit of the doubt

Ed gets it re Bernie, very much so, we have few better allies. A lot of people on th left are hesitant to properly ascribe bad intent to their fellow Democrats, you could include Bernie himself in that category, and Thom Hartmann. It's a difficult line to walk, calling out establishment corporatism without demonizing those on our side who have gone along to get along.

Personally I am more on your side of this, I have no problem calling out sellouts, but I also know Ed's heart is in the right place re Bernie and the issues Bernie and his supporters care about. Peace.

[Cassiopeia]

70. I don't blame her for taking the money either.

I just wish she would embrace it and run an honest campaign. She could run on a platform of truth and fight for trade deals, big banking, unlimited corporate plundering, corporate welfare etc.

It's the lying that that makes it all so disgusting.

[BernieforPres2016]

83. The idea that Hillary is being pushed to the left by Bernie is laughable to me

The Clintons are the champions of big money in politics for both political and personal gains. Do people like Thom Hartmann and Ed Schultz seriously think Hillary Clinton would ever push for campaign finance reform, which is at the heart of all the corruption? It will never happen.

[whatchamacallit]

28. I realized she was an establishment tool years ago

Specifically cast to gain the trust of liberals and progressives.

[Arugula Latte]

31. It's sad how Rachel has flushed her once excellent reputation for integrity down the drain.

[Fast Walker 52]

33. exactly.

[ISeeA BrightFuture]

50. I don't think she has much control over what they let her report and they pay her $7 million a year

to not say what they don't want reported.

I don't thinks she's happy about it. But it's not easy to walk away from.


Rachel Maddow's Salary
$7 Million Per Year

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rachel-maddow-net-worth/

[Jefferson23]

34. You want honest journalism, they do not provide that and never have. They are a worthless

faux news outlet.

[mythology]

36. Perhaps because while it was a large upset

It ultimately matters very little in the delegate count which is how the nomination is decided. Sanders won fewer delegates on Tuesday, leaving him further behind.

The Sanders supporters denigrating her for not fawning over Sanders is sad. She's one of the smartest least biased voices on tv. But because she doesn't fawn she said to be like Fox News or a libertarian. The name calling just shows how little of a valid point there is in this thread.

[12AngryBorneoWildmen]

71. Thank You.

I agree.

[Lucinda]

89. +1

[musiclawyer]

37. Turn it off. Turn it off

MSNBC died some time ago. It's no better than Fox.
Watch TYT. Democracy now. Free speech tv. Everybody.
Just leave cable news forever. The faster we do it the faster a strong honest news organization will emerge. Current failed. But another will come and succeed if we demand it with our remotes.

[pdsimdars]

38. And as I also said, she did 2 thorough pieces on how Bernie is not getting out the vote

She said Democratic turnout is down and Republican turnout is up. And Bernie said he would get the vote up, but he hasn't.
OK, that was after the FIRST primary in Iowa. Now, Bernie has broken records in Kansas, Maine and Michigan. I have emailed her and asked her why she isn't reporting that.
That is clear proof that she is sold out. She refused to give Bernie credit. As a matter of fact, she even said last night that Democratic turnout is down. After Bernie BROKE RECORDS for turnout in 3 states.
Sell Out Maddow

[BernieforPres2016]

42. I don't know how anybody watches Rachel Maddow anyway

The manic grins, the waving hands, the self satisfied demeanor. She looks and acts like she drank a pitcher of coffee before she went on the air. I can't look at and listen to her for more than 5 minutes even if I agree with what she's saying. She's like a younger, female Chris Matthews.

[CorkySt.Clair]

48. You'd love her if she was in the tank for Bernie

[PWPippin]

43. I like your name, Fast Walker.

That's what I did some time ago - away from Rachel and the rest of MSNBC.

[kstewart33]

45. I'm sure she'll miss you. nt

[longship]

46. I like Rachel.

But I don't listen to her with a stop watch to measure her coverage. So you might have that one on me.

[Ferd Berfel]

52. SHe sold out long ago.

She's protecting her yuuge pay check. Not sure why this would be a surprise.

I stopped watching M$NBC after they axed Ed. IT's a waste of time now. I get more information here

[Dem2]

54. She was up half the night reporting it

She needs to do better, I'll send her a link to this thread.

[FailureToCommunicate]

55. Any commentator, if they mention Bernie's progress at all between Trump dumps, seem to quickly pivot

to how that adversely affects Hillary. Oh dear, whatever can Hillary do to prop up her support among the youth, oh dear will Bernie in the rear view mirror push her into policy flips that might make her uncomfortable, etc etc etc...



So, yeah, Rachel has been most disappointing of late. Her obvious passion for the election process has perhaps clouded any notion of objectivity. (She has been a staunch Hillary fan)

[tomm2thumbs]

60. she drooled all over his positions and stances before his numbers went up

the media bubble is as bad as the Washington bubble

time to pop both of them with the same candidate

[I hate liars]

64. Rachel is engaging until you recognize her schtick...

Which is to repeat the same point in five different ways, punctuated with dramatic pauses.

It takes her 10 minutes to get across what a normal person could convey in 2 minutes. That's great for listeners who are slow and new to the material she's covering, but agonizing for the average informed, left-of-center listener, who should be her target demographic.

[Fast Walker 52]

93. EXACTLY!!! It's so annoying after a while. She wastes so much time.

She'd be a good elementary school teacher, but as a newscaster, it gets so old.

[DrBulldog]

66. Rachel has finally been "bought".

She's been told, "tow the line or lose your job".

For several years I watched her almost daily - she usually got the news out with the correct view that no one else had.

But I stopped watching her several months ago. Her show has gone to corporate dribble . . .

[dirtydickcheney]

68. She finds out that Bush Co. is spying on US Citizens w/o a warrant... OUTRAGE!!!

Obama does EXACTLY the same thing...

Barely a peep.


I HATE that crap!!!

[merrily]

69. Again, when the choice was between Dimson and a Democrat, every Democrat looked liberal.

Choosing between a Third Way Democrat and a liberal is the real decider.

As far as msm, none of it is about being liberal. It's about the conservative/neocon agenda of the 5 to 7 mega corps that own most of mainstream media. Neoliberal is the furthest left it's going to go.

This thread is reason 3,567,432 that we need Bernie, as Dust Lawyer pointed out upthread. http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511461843#post47

[retrowire]

76. There's no such thing as the liberal media.

So sayeth The Toung Turks.

[highprincipleswork]

77. Let's not call it "Liberal Media" in anything but quotation marks.

[JoaquinD]

78. I dropped Maddow and MSNBC when I realized they are SHIT.

Maddow shills for Hillary. Matthews sucks the Clinton teet everyday. Scarborough is a big mouth and Mika is meek. They are ALL shit at MSNBC. So glad I dropped them from my life.

[fredamae]

79. Well, she spent more time on Bernie

than I spent on her and M$NBC

[olddots]

81. for 7 million bucks a year

I'd play in a Motley Crew tribute band .

Money is a very powerfull addiction .

[jalan48]

84. She's brilliant and a good policy wonk.

However, her gig only works when it's aimed at Republicans-she's part of the Democrats vs. Republicans charade. Bernie has exposed the Democratic Party Establishment as being too closely tied to Wall Street and, well, Comcast is big time Wall Street. What's a person to do?

[Duval]

85. Sad, but true.

[rtracey]

86. MSNBC

MSNBC along with NBC and other MSM outlets are totally up trumps ass, and here is my theory why.

The Obama administration has had a successful run. The unemployment is low, job growth over 46 months has been positive, ACA is successful, gay marriage is legal, Social Security is still here, the govt has not confiscated your guns, Obama has not allowed the whitehouse to become a Kenyan Muslim based Mosque..... so the MSM is somewhat perplexed with not having a lot to chew on. With Trump as president, this guy will open the whole nine yards of bullshit this country is going to go through. His racist stance on any group that is not pure white cretin, his total bullshit stance on china, when his suits are made there. His total lack of knowledge pertaining to ANYTHING this country stands for or against, his willingness to take our children into another shitstorm in the middle east.

The MSM are salivating to get Trump in. Mika, Joe Scarborough, Maddow, Matthews, all of them are up his ass. Now notice the ones who are not up Trumps ass. They are the ones who are out... Ed Schultz, Melissa Perry, Sharpton, Obermann, Cenk...... yup .....that my theory

[Fast Walker 52]

94. they do love Trump but I don't think they are so crazy to want him in power

they just LURVE him in the race and the attention it brings. But they are playing with fire.

[rtracey]

95. agreed

well, as long as Matt Lauer give trump free phone calls, Fox brings him on every program they have, CNN cut to HIS rallies ONLY, barely to never a Clinton, or Sanders rally. As long as the MSM refuses to call trump (I refuse to capitalize his name not doing it anymore as my protest) on any of his racist rants, attacks by supporters, etc..... he will reap the rewards, and with the growing hysteria he is building and throwing into these cretins faces, he will win over Clinton and Sanders. Then the shit will hit the fan when all his idiotic supporters find out trump as president is not trump as king, and congress will swallow him whole. My true wish is a democratic senate... if trump does get in, a democratic senate can control all his agenda.... control supreme court noms, Obamacare cuts, etc..... get the senate vote out... help elect the democrats in the senate.

[Duval]

87. I think she's having a one-on-one with Hillary tonight.

That's one I'll be happy to miss. Effing Comcast is to blame.

[staggerleem]

91. Rachael is now an employee of MSNBComcast.

As such she is no longer completely free to speak her mind in their broadcasts. Apparently, however, she still wants to retain her job (can you blame her, in this market?) and her soapbox - there are a few things that she can still slip by the Comcast standards & practices. Yes, she's been mostly neutered by the agenda of her new bosses. That's life!

[glinda]

92. Yup. She could have really been something. I don't watch

MSNBC at all now with the exception of about a couple minutes a day and get so disappointed right away I switch to something else. It is shocking that she will take the money over integrity. Guess I may have been wrong about her from the start.

[colsohlibgal]

96. Comcast Issued Marching Orders

Those with pride and convictions have left. My opinion of Rachel and Chris Hayes has gone way, way down. I used to DVR Kornacki on the weekend but no longer.

Again, the good news is that kids and the semi tech savvy of us not so young can find real progressive talk on their TV through Wi-Fi. So I get my takes from Cenk, Thom Hartmann, Papantonio, and if I want more passion Malloy, a little truth seeking.

No need to put up with this now lame network.