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Related: About this forumHow New FBI Powers to Look through NSA Intercepts will Exacerbate Mass Incarceration
The wall separating foreign intelligence operations from domestic criminal investigations has finally, fully collapsed. The FBI is now acting on a rule change initiated by the Bush administration, and finally massaged into actionable policy by Obama: Now, FBI agents can query the NSAs database of Americans international communications, collected without warrants pursuant to Section 702 of the 2008 FISA Amendments Act. That law put congress stamp of approval on the Bush administrations warrantless wiretapping program, which was widely denounced as totalitarian when the New York Times James Risen exposed it to the world in 2005.
The New York Times reports:
Until now, National Security Agency analysts have filtered the surveillance information for the rest of the government. They search and evaluate the information and pass only the portions of phone calls or email that they decide is pertinent on to colleagues at the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and other agencies. And before doing so, the N.S.A. takes steps to mask the names and any irrelevant information about innocent Americans. The new system would permit analysts at other intelligence agencies to obtain direct access to raw information from the N.S.A.s surveillance to evaluate for themselves.
What does this rule change mean for you? In short, domestic law enforcement officials now have access to huge troves of American communications, obtained without warrants, that they can use to put people in cages. FBI agents dont need to have any national security related reason to plug your name, email address, phone number, or other selector into the NSAs gargantuan data trove. They can simply poke around in your private information in the course of totally routine investigations. And if they find something that suggests, say, involvement in illegal drug activity, they can send that information to local or state police. That means information the NSA collects for purposes of so-called national security will be used by police to lock up ordinary Americans for routine crimes. And we dont have to guess whos going to suffer this unconstitutional indignity the most brutally. Itll be Black, Brown, poor, immigrant, Muslim, and dissident Americans: the same people who are always targeted by law enforcement for extra special attention.
You might be asking yourself: How on earth could a law like Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act (FAA), which enables the government to wiretap our communications without warrants, be constitutional? In our view, at the ACLU, its not. And naturally, our attorneys have tried to convince courts of the same. But unfortunately those legal challenges have been met with obstruction at the highest levels of government. In 2013, this obstruction culminated in a disastrous Supreme Court ruling holding that our clients in Amnesty v. Clapper, our lawsuit challenging warrantless wiretapping under FAA, didnt have standing to bring the claim. The court agreed with the government on the standing issue, meaning that in order for someone to successfully challenge the constitutionality of what is on its face a blatantly unconstitutional law granting Orwellian powers to the government, they must have proof not only that the government spied on their communications without a warrant, but that it did so under the authority of this particular statute. In order to prove something like this, wed need another Snowden to leak us the records. Otherwise, were out of luck.
https://privacysos.org/blog/fbi-will-now-be-able-to-search-through-nsa-intercept-data/
No, I do not want a continuation of the Bush and then Obama administration on issues concerning privacy. And that is what a Clinton administration promises. She has been consistently on the wrong side of history with regards to the Patriot Act, the NSA spying revelations, Edward Snowden, and the 'war on terrah'.
I want, no, we need a president who will try to turn some of this back. We need to muster a response to get Congress to repeal section 702. If Clinton is elected and this goes forward, we will see another decade where mass incarceration is accepted as the norm.
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How New FBI Powers to Look through NSA Intercepts will Exacerbate Mass Incarceration (Original Post)
TM99
Mar 2016
OP
Some Clinton supporters don't understand why some of us are so passionate about this fight.
rhett o rick
Mar 2016
#2
noretreatnosurrender
(1,890 posts)1. I agree with you...
Thanks for posting.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)2. Some Clinton supporters don't understand why some of us are so passionate about this fight.
We are losing our Constitutional rights day by day. When Bush did it, I said hold on until we get a Democratic president to undo it. But Pres Obama not only didn't undo, he refined and normalized the policies that have taken away our freedoms and liberties. And Clinton is in the same mind of total government control of the People. Our founders would be fighting on our side against the Oligarchy.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)3. OK, resident Obama lovers, WTF is your excuse for this blatant unconstitutionality?
John Poet
(2,510 posts)4. THIS deserves a lot more attention
than it is getting.