Q: How do the Democrats combat this in the general election? The branding of Hillary has begun.

[Skwmom]

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It's more than blue collar workers that are upset.... But go ahead and put out more "charts." I am sure that will win the day. And no, it isn't about racism. If this same type of rally was held in another country, the response would be the same. And it will bring people to the polls in droves.

And the Hillary branding has begun...

Update: Please note this is not giving the other side stuff they can use. Rather, this is showing what the other side is doing. I guess we could ignore it. However, I don't think that would be a winning strategy.

[artyteacher]

1. trump outsources tons of his products... eom

[Skwmom]

3. Which is why he has been laying the groundwork for his excuse for weeks. I am NOT

defending Trump. He is a phony populist that can be exposed when you put him up against the REAL thing.

[Skwmom]

34. Did you read about the Clinton Foundation and HB1 visas?

[Trust Buster]

2. Exactly, Democrats hold the high ground on that issue.

[Armstead]

17. Unfortunately not the ones in charge

They keep pushing through these variations of NAFTA and other policies that encourage and promote outsourcing, downsizing and rapacious Corporate greed to satisfy Wall St.

The GOP are worse, but Trump is portraying himself as a fighter against those things.

That IS what will happen in the general if we nominate a corporatist who supported these things.

[Trust Buster]

26. Outsourcing was going to happen with or without NAFTA.

The advent of digitalization and large container ships created a much smaller world than we have ever known. Corporations were going to chase cheap labor around the globe. The country with the highest standard of living was going to take the biggest hit when the music stopped. NAFTA could have never come into being and the situation would not be measurably different than we find today. In my opinion, this constant pointing at NAFTA is like solely blaming the carburetor for an automobile's speed.

[Armstead]

27. I agree there are a lot of factors involved

But rather than policies that have encouraged the excesses of that behavior, we should have been (should be) pushing for policies -- and bully-pulpit messages -- that discourage it, and devise alternatives to protect jobs and the overall position of workers and the larger economy.

The problem is the Democrats too often have gone along with the Corporate Imperative for Bigger Profits instead of representiong the counterbalance of the Larger Public Interest.

[PotatoChip]

4. "Trump cannot be bought" she says.

But it's ok if he buys the WH instead?

Nonetheless, this is an extremely important issue, and one of the major reasons that I'm supporting Bernie. Trump would not be able to go after Bernie on this in the GE. But he could (and would) hammer on Hillary with it.

[Skwmom]

5. Did you hear the moniker they are branding her with?

[PotatoChip]

6. No. I didn't have time to watch the whole video.

I turned it off right after she said that.

At what time marker?

[Skwmom]

7. I didn't note the marker. It was too long but will the shortened form stick? I'd count on it.

It will bring people to the polls in droves.

[dana_b]

36. it's at 5:55 n/t

[Arazi]

13. Can you tell me the moniker?

I'm not in a place where I can turn up the volume on any video

Thanks

[Skwmom]

18. The speaker stumbled over a very wordy description but I think many would instantly come up with a

shortened form of what she espoused.

I'd rather not post it on this public board.

[ibegurpard]

8. we can't

Hillary and, increasingly, the Democratic Party have kneecapped themselves on these issues. That's why nominating her is a disaster in the making.

[casperthegm]

9. +1

Hate to say it, but much of her positions and decisions are, in fact, indefensible. She's a poor candidate with a poor track record, which I'd be happy to expand upon, should anyone ask for it.

[VulgarPoet]

20. Hell, I've got a post from a while back with a bunch of her "missteps".

Quotations because I'm certain she certainly doesn't see them that way-- she hasn't seen an intervention she hasn't liked.

[NCTraveler]

10. It's going to be tough but Clinton is going to hand Trump his ass.

Doesn't matter how much right wing shit like this is promoted.

Fuck Trump.

You are presenting a complete one way street that promotes a message in only one direction.

So, for a fun game. Tell me. What will we be branding Trump with? What issues do you have with Trump. Will you join me right hear in agreeing that it isn't a one way street as you are laying before us? That democrats will have a message against him as well? That he will be branded? You know, everything that is missing from your one sided op.

[Skwmom]

11. I agree it is not a one way street. However, the card he is holding is an extremely powerful one.

And if that very powerful message is not refuted get prepared for President Trump.

What a hand that schmuck has been dealt. And it's more than just his message, it is the culmination of the perfect storm that has been brewing for awhile.

I think Clinton advised Trump to run b/c he thought Trump could adopt Bernie's message and keep him from being a problem for Hillary. But I recall that old saying, Oh what tangled webs we weave, when first we practice to deceive....

[NCTraveler]

12. The cards we are holding are more powerful.

It is my opinion that should have been addressed in the commentary of your op. Without it....... Transparency.

[Skwmom]

14. Sorry, I don't see the power of your hand. Why don't you explain it to me and I will point out any

weakness that I perceive? But then again, that would lead to a charge that I was helping the other side.

And not being a political genius, I'm sure they wouldn't even be worthy of the time it took you to read them.

[NCTraveler]

16. There you go again. You see the power of the racist xenophobe and no one else.

"that would lead to a charge that I was helping the other side."

That is exactly what I'm charging here. It simply can't be denied with the direction you are taking.

I understand the chance I take withy a jury here being a Clinton supporter. Facts are facts and you are presenting only one side, fostering the promotion of Trump against Clinton. <- Your op and responses are truly nothing less and nothing more. It's obvious.

[Skwmom]

23. I only posted a video of what they are going around in

Florida saying. Brietbart had a video where they were talking about this subject but they DID NOT include the portion about Clinton. Wow. Wonder why? Maybe because they want to hide the ball until the general election.

One of the major reasons I support Bernie is because I believe Bernie is one of those individuals who is truly color blind and who will bring us together instead of drive us apart for political gain.

[Arazi]

15. The Republicans have been trying to take down this raging rhino for weeks now

The full weight of the party threw themselves against him and tried to "brand him" and failed. He only got stronger

Racist? Check
Anti-American? Check
Failure? Check
Liar? Check
Hypocrite? Check
Dangerous? Check
Catastrophic? Check

Finally in desperation they attacked the size of his dick! His dick!

HRC isn't going to win on the issues against him. This isn't that kind of election

[Skwmom]

24. I would give my opinion why this hasn't worked but I personally have no desire to deal

with the outrage.

[Arazi]

25. The closest that's stuck is "carnival barker" from Jeb but Dems typically use that

And it hasn't wounded the orange one at all. Trump is genius at finding that one chink in a person, the thing we didn't even know we were thinking about and then smashing them with it

Jeb's low energy
Marco's a robot
Carson's asleep

He's going to label HRC in the first week and we're going to absolutely go batshit with both rage (cuz we hate it) or fear (cuz there's a kernel of truth and we fear it will stick)

What the hell will HRC use? Xenophobic racist? He and his supporters eat that shit up. He shut down her "sexist" charge in 24 hours by bringing up Bill's affairs and she hasn't used it since

[yourpaljoey]

30. Excellent points

[Skwmom]

33. He's already hinted at his lines of attack.

I also think the slamming Cruz for lying while holding the bible in one hand line of attack will be one of the attacks used against Clinton as she hugs religion in her move to the "center."

[Zambero]

28. I recall all the crap thrown at Obama in '08

Guilt by association (Rev. Wright et al), birtherism, "he's a secret Muslim". etc. Expect no less for Hillary, but it will be preaching to the "choir" for the most part. As for Trump, where does one begin? His net negative of -39 is well-deserved and I see his performance over the past several months as being one ongoing and protracted self-delivered negative ad. There's almost too much material to work with, but Democrats will somehow manage.

[Fumesucker]

37. Bear in mind a lot of that stuff about Obama started with Hillary

The birtherism, the slyness about his religion and Wright, that all got started in the primary.

[amborin]

19. the Clintons have consistently acted and voted against the interests of American workers

[Skwmom]

31. Shhh.. they think the other side hasn't figured that out....

[hootinholler]

21. Easy problem to solve

Nominate Bernie.

[Jefferson23]

22. Independents worry me, a lot. If Hillary wins nom we have to hope Trump's videos

of his rallies of violence scare enough voters. He may not be able to gather enough
to win, and the GOP establishment would rather he lose the WH so they'll be going after
him in the GE too.

But I get what you're saying and agree she is not best placed to win the WH.

[EndElectoral]

29. Well, at least Republicans won't attack her in the GE for loving Kissinger.

[Skwmom]

32. I wouldn't put it past Trump not to use that (unless he is on record praising Kissinger)

[dana_b]

35. I won't repeat it but it's not too catchy n/t

[Skwmom]

38. Are you talking about how the speaker described Hillary? It wasn't catchy but a shortened version

of that to a few word, I think that is catchy (and I'm sure I'm not the only one to think of it).