"I can no longer be a Hillary Clinton supporter. -bell hooks

[Truprogressive85]

[Merryland]

1. Wow - excellent. n/t

[Arazi]

2. Kicked and Recced. Wowza!

[Fumesucker]

3. Who are you?

[NWCorona]

5. Edit: wrong place, sorry about that.

[liberal_at_heart]

4. "Who are you and what do you stand for?" Perfect.

[NWCorona]

6. Fyi, for those who aren't aware of this lady

Some very good books in her catalog!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_hooks

[davidpdx]

44. Glad you posted this

I wasn't aware of who she was. She has written tons of books and journal articles too.

[PotatoChip]

7. Awesome!!!

I've long appreciated her work ... see my sig line below...

[kristopher]

8. K&R

[Sienna86]

9. I admire her greatly. "Who are you?"

She has an eye for who is being genuine.

[Duval]

10. K&R. nt

[dana_b]

11. wow.. that's saying something. K&R

[AtomicKitten]

12. The exodus from Team Clinton begins.

[artislife]

37. We knew it would happen. nt

[dchill]

41. Now for some superdelegates to join in.

[lunatica]

13. Amen to that!

[WillyT]

14. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[debunction.junction]

15. Bell Hooks nails it!

Who are you? What do you stand for?

[840high]

65. .+10

[pdsimdars]

16. Wonderful. . .Bernie's character and message are really starting to seep in past the Hillary machine

[Eric J in MN]

17. This "took place at The New School in October 2014."

http://shine.forharriet.com/2016/03/bell-hooks-on-hillary-clinton-certain.html

[merrily]

49. Point? I googled, but found no indication that Hooks recanted or backed off this. Did you?

[Eric J in MN]

59. I didn't have a point. I was just telling people the context. NT

NT

[merrily]

61. Okay, thank you.

[tblue37]

18. Would you provide a brief summary for us deafies? (Thanks.). nt

[A Little Weird]

23. I'm not good enough to properly transcribe, but here's a basic overview

Not a direct quote but a summary of what I could pick up -

--I've talked about being pro-Hillary in the past. But at this stage of life and this stage of her politics I can't be a supporter in the name of feminism. Certain things I don't want to cosign on - militarist, imperialist, white-supremacist whether conducted by women or men. A lot of women feel political turmoil right now because of feminist background and looking forward to seeing a woman president. It comes down to identity politics vs not supporting issues that she supports.--

[tblue37]

35. Thanks! That is quite. good enough. I would not expect a transcript. A brief summary of

a video's main point is usually plenty.

[gordyfl]

71. Yes

"Woman, or not a woman, what do you stand for?"

A question that gets gets overlooked often - except here on DU.

[Dont call me Shirley]

19. bell hooks...

[Ichingcarpenter]

20. Would you Change?

Tracy Chapman - Change

How bad how good does it need to get?
How many losses how much regret?
What chain reaction
What cause and effect
Makes you turn around
Makes you try to explain
Makes you forgive and forget
Makes you change
Makes you change

If you knew that you would be alone
Knowing right being wrong
Would you change?
Would you change?
If you knew that you would find a truth
That brings a pain that can't be soothed
Would you change?
Would you change?

How bad how good does it need to get?
How many losses how much regret?
What chain reaction
What cause and effect
Makes you turn around
Makes you try to explain
Makes you forgive and forget
Makes you change
Makes you change

[Dont call me Shirley]

21. I love Tracy's music. Thanks for posting this.

[Uncle Joe]

22. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Truprogressive85.

[vintx]

24. Damn. Now that is something.

I wonder how many young women have seen this. She is extremely influential among feminists.

[ljm2002]

25. Nicely stated...

...I like the distinction she draws between identity politics vs. who you are and what you stand for.

K&R

[Luminous Animal]

26. K and r. Belle is a woman that I have admired for decades

[ChiciB1]

27. Kicking... Thanks For Posting, Maybe This Time We Won;t

be too late. Hillary IS NOT who people thought she was and it's becoming more evident EVERY single day!

[highprincipleswork]

28. Who and what do you stand for? Always a great question. Thank you!

[me b zola]

31. Thank You for the Langston Hugh's quote

I attended Lincoln University and "down the hill" is where Langston and others gathered to rub their creative bones together.

[me b zola]

29. Powerul!

[zentrum]

30. Great Statement.

[dubyadiprecession]

32. In the general election you will have two choices: Hillary or Trump

[Lokijohn]

45. For some reason I just remembered an old bad joke

Q: What do you call a prophet whose predictions about the future are wrong?
A: Nostradumbass

[Live and Learn]

52. +1000 nt

[ReallyIAmAnOptimist]

33. Articulate and clear...

"I'm finding at this stage in her politics,
that I can no longer be a Hillary Clinton supporter..."

"...there are certain things that I don't want to cosign...
...militarist, imperialist, white supremacist..."

"...identity politics vs who are you and what do you stand for?"

[Chitown Kev]

34. Having actually read bell hooks' work...most of it anyway...

I am surprised that she ever was a Hillary Clinton supporter

[Number23]

40. And unless bell wears this exact same outfit on the regular, this video was made on 10/8/2014

But I'm sure that won't stop the par-tay.

[MisterFred]

42. It was. :)

The YouTube page notes that it's from a conversation in 2014. (In the info box under the video.)

[merrily]

51. And your point is? Please see Replies 49 and 50.

[MisterFred]

73. My point?

The poster is right, Bell's been against Clinton since 2014. Also, they don't need to look up confirmation if they were inclined to do so.

[Number23]

74. No use trying to explain to those determined to argue rather than listen. So not worth your time

I've been reading bell hooks for years, this comes as no surprise to anyone even remotely familiar with her.

But the point is that this video was made before Clinton or damn near any of the other candidates had even declared. Given the caliber of the opposition running against Clinton and that hooks would have had no idea who was running when this video was made in **2014** I would be very surprised if even hooks still felt this way now.

[Chitown Kev]

46. Lawd, let me hush...

[merrily]

50. And? Please see Reply 49. Most people don't revolve as quickly or as often as HRC.

[Number23]

53. As usual, your post has nothing to do with mine. I don't know what you're even trying to say

Most people don't revolve as quickly or as often as HRC.

Yeah, I guess 'revolving' is a time honored trait with some around here.

[merrily]

54. My post has everything to do with yours. Too bad you either don't get that or pretend not to.

However, I don't feel like explaining it to you. I think others who read the thread will get it without explanation.

[Number23]

55. When you have to try to TELL somebody that your incoherent post has anything to

do with somebody else's, it's probably a very good chance that it doesn't.

But I know how much you so desperately love to argue. Even when it's clear you have nothing to say.

[merrily]

56. I said it only because you falsely claimed my post had nothing to do with yours.

As far as my loving to argue, look who's "talking."

Rolling on the floor laughing for no reason whatever seems to have exhausted you. Get some rest.

[Major Hogwash]

57. Hahahaha!!!!!!!!

That was funny.

[merrily]

60. Glad to give someone a laugh--a sincere laugh, that is.

The other kind is just lame and sad.

[Major Hogwash]

62. Yeah, it was a good retort.

Not a DUzy, but appropriate.

[merrily]

63. I wasn't even trying to be funny, but I am glad you enjoyed it.

[Major Hogwash]

64. Yes, I know.

I wonder if just talking to you will get me listed on their enemies' list now.

[Number23]

58. Every bit as needlessly argumentative and pointless as your other contributions to your thread

Rolling on the floor laughing for no reason whatever seems to have exhausted you. Get some rest.

All I can do is hope that sounded more pithy and hilarious in your head than it does on page.

I love how you think that your arguing over nothing somehow disproves that you aren't argumentative for no reason. It's almost as entertaining as your typing the absolutely nonsensical "not everyone revolves as much as Hillary" and then editing in that you "don't have time to explain what that means" as if you would be even remotely capable of doing so.

Edit: And you've got a friend!!! Anyone that can chuckle so heartily (at least five exclamation points!) over such babbling, unfunny inanities is a friend indeed. Definitely a keeper.

[Fairgo]

68. I get it

And I also get that it's time to stop trying to explain it to those bent on not understanding.

[NurseJackie]

75. Good catch! (Not that it matters to those who aren't as observant as you.)

Or, maybe they *are* but just don't care ... it's impossible to know for sure which one is the correct answer. (But, frankly, neither one is very flattering.)

[Arazi]

36. PM kick

[Thespian2]

38. K & R !!!!

Thank you for that...

[Enthusiast]

39. Kicked and recommended! I'm with you!

[TheBlackAdder]

43. If Bell Hooks endorses Sanders, I'm switching from a neutral--following suit!

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I quote Bell Hooks all the time. Shirley Chisholm and Bell Hooks are my favorite politicians.


If she endorses Sanders, I will follow.

Right now, I'm trying to remain neutral, as a poli-sci continuing ed student. It's getting harder to remain neutral each and every day, between all of the peer sites my university has access to, and the information I've scrounged up over the years.


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[merrily]

47. I thought you were already a supporter of Senator Sanders!

But, I don't want to interfere with your neutrality if neutrality helps you in your studies.

[TheBlackAdder]

70. I'm a staunch Democrat, a real non-Blue Dog, as my tag line mentions. I'll call out each side.

.


The problem is, most of the calling out seems to be one-sided.

Every once in a while, there'll be a gender or bogus complaint directed towards Clinton, but most of the stupidness seems to be directed towards Sanders. Entering this election, I swore HRC was a given. I overlooked a bunch of stuff. I always liked SBS so either way, this would have been a win for me. But, as the months drag on, I cannot keep my eyes closed at the dozens of major issues HRC has that I will not post--doing GOP work for them. If someone posts them, I'll be there in the primaries. But, much of this stuff might be unknown or off the GOP radar. I'm not aiding them in any way. Once the general starts, I'm Dem all the way-no harsh negatives.

Trying to stay neutral, allows me to see things more objectively. It's getting harder, though.


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[Live and Learn]

48. K&R nt

[flamingdem]

66. What do you stand for - I really like that

Let's get past identity politics.. this is a better way to frame things.

[Docreed2003]

67. At the end of the day...

To steal from Dylan..."You've gotta serve somebody". Either we choose to fall in line with the establishment candidate or we choose to align ourselves with someone who is fighting to change the status quo. Either way we are serving a cause...there is no middle ground. We all serve "somebody"

[florida08]

69. Have always wonder

How some actually achieve higher learning attending school while others waste someone else's seat. GW comes to mind.
Yes there are many one issue voters that don't care about the whole of the country. The RR is one of them.

[dr60omg]

72. bell hooks is essential feminism

And you will note in the longer videos bourgeoise white feminist Gloria Steinem had her picture blocked out. Anyone who knows anything about feminism and the notion of intersectionality knows exactly why bell hooks said what she said and with whom she stands this interview took place in her semester at the New School and this particular lecture was given with Dr. Cornell West.

Also let's not forget younger scholars like Michelle Alexander who refuse to support Hillary Clinton (but, support Sanders)