If you *LOVE* Hillary and you love America, you will allow her to step down now.

[grasswire]

Seriously.

Hillary Clinton is going to get smashed to smithereens in the next couple of months.

Investigative journalists are hot on the trail of massive corruption in the intersection of the Clinton Foundation, her State Department tenure, and her donors.

Massive corruption that led to her betrayal of Obama.

The email server investigation is rendered insignificant by the shenanigans uncovered at the other end of that string.

She was taking foreign policy advice on her private server from a man who was banned from any position as a WH advisor by President Obama because this man had betrayed Obama and worked to harm him. He was not trusted.

This man was employed by the Clinton Foundation and was at the same time seeking his own private business interests in Libya. He was emailing Hillary (secretly) with questionable intelligence.

And then Hillary was urging Obama to intervene in Libya. Strongly.

I don't know what the punishment should be for this depth of perfidy and lack of fidelity to the service of the President. At the very least, it will be FULL DISGRACE for her in the next few months.

She is going to be ruined prior to the election. Perhaps prior to the primary.

It doesn't matter if supporters think she is strong enough to withstand attacks. This is different. Epic corruption.

[MrWendel]

1. Really?

This is the best you can do?

By the way, the "betrayal of Obama" line is oozing with irony.

[NWCorona]

6. Hillary disobeyed at least two direct order's from Obama

Facts

[MrWendel]

10. And...

anyone that "LOVES" Hillary and the USA would have an obligation as a PATRIOT to ask her to step down for the good of Humanity. I mean "Will someone PUH-LEASE think about the children!!!!"

[NWCorona]

16. I don't agree with the OP

Hillary has a right to stay in the race just like Bernie. I actually want her to stay in as her true colors are really starting to shine through!

I'm just pointing out that Hillary did betray Obama.

[SCantiGOP]

26. WOW grasswire

You sure convinced me.
I even used the obligatory WOW that is all but required in any post dealing with Sen Sanders, such as : "WOW, Mayberry school board member endorses Bernie !!!!!"

[noiretextatique]

33. If you care to research this fact

There is plenty of ink on the subject. She continued contact with Mr. Blumental after the President blacklisted him. That is usually called disobeying a direct order, but rules don't serm to apply to Clinton.

[Blue Idaho]

37. The why didn't the President remove her from her position?

He has the power.

[grasswire]

44. She was hiding it from him, apparently.

We only know about this because someone hacked Blumenthal's emails...and that led to Hillary's private server where she was hiding things from Obama.

Get that? She was hiding emails from the President of the United States that came and went between herself and the man Obama had banned from doing any WH business.

[Blue Idaho]

49. Why then does he still support her then?

He could disavow his support for her, but he hasn't.

In fact - when asked The President of the United States said "Hillary Clinton will go down as one of the finest Secretaries of State."

[grasswire]

54. Maybe because the other forces at play will destroy her...

...without any assist from him.

Maybe he knows she will be indicted.

[Blue Idaho]

57. Maybe your mind reading act

Needs work.

[MrWendel]

79. Tom Clancey...

has nothing on you.

[Ken Burch]

58. He hasn't actually endorsed her. n/t.

[Blue Idaho]

62. He hasn't actually endorsed Sanders either.

Be he has said she will go down as "On of the finest Secretaries of State." A position he appointed her to after a tough and brushing campaign. I don't remember him calling Sanders "One of the finest members of Congress."

I don't expect the President to endorse either candidate - but he has never had one critical word to say about Sec. Clinton's service. If this were as big a deal as some are making out - why would he continue to show her the utmost respect for the job well done?

[SCantiGOP]

80. I've never known of a sitting President

endorsing a candidate in the primary. That would be a serious overreach for an outgoing President to try to handpick his successor.
That being said, I think it is a safe assumption that he personally is pulling for her and will actively assist her campaign once she secures the nomination because he wants to make sure the Democrats hold
onto the White House.

[Tess49]

73. LOL!!

[mac56]

74. "Mayberry school board member"?

Nice shot at grassroots Democrats.

[SCantiGOP]

82. Hate to tell you

But Mayberry is fictional, no real grassroots there.

[mac56]

102. Hate to tell you

but ripping on small towns still sucks.

[SCantiGOP]

110. I live in a town of 500 people

But I will take your sincere criticism to heart.

[mac56]

112. I'll take your word for that.

Makes the snark difficult to understand.

[Warren DeMontague]

42. Think of the children-isnt that what DWS says to justify putting cancer patients in prison for weed?

I know ive heard that shiznit somewhere.

[politicaljunkie41910]

107. Then he should have sent her to bed without supper and been done with it. Geez!!!

[Fairgo]

7. I love that smirking dandruff flick

It's her signature move. I'd like to see it on every HRC commercial.

[polly7]

20. Isn't it copied from Obama? I don't see that as a good idea, jmho. nt.

[xloadiex]

56. Her signature move?

I believe you are mistaken. It seems like she doesn't have any problem stealing Obama's "moves" or Bernie's campaign promises.

[Fairgo]

108. Which of course is exactly why I like to see it

She's like the Fonz

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

96. No shit

Especially when many here who support Sanders were among Obama harshest critics.

[Joe the Revelator]

97. 'Is that the best you can do' I don't know man, that pretty damn good...

What more do you need?

[Stallion]

2. Chuckle

nm

[PonyUp]

32. Ignored

nm

[Stallion]

41. Giggle

nm

[SammyWinstonJack]

98. Ugh.

nm

[polly7]

3. Correct!

"She was taking foreign policy advice on her private server from a man who was banned from any position as a WH advisor by President Obama because this man had betrayed Obama and worked to harm him. He was not trusted.

This man was employed by the Clinton Foundation and was at the same time seeking his own private business interests in Libya. He was emailing Hillary (secretly) with questionable intelligence."

[daleanime]

4. The question isn't her strength.....

it's how it will affect voters? If it helps drive republicans to the polls while suppressing democratic support among independents it's big trouble for us.

[brewens]

35. What I don't want to see is Hillary limping into the convention, maybe with the delegate lead but

otherwise really sucking. The main reason why we Bernie supporters need to pour it on. We can impress a lot of people in time, I really believe it.

[Skwmom]

5. I said months ago the email situation was to distract from the more serious allegations. However,

do I have faith that anything will be done? No.

Our govt is for sale to the highest bidders - foreign or domestic.

[grasswire]

21. yes. the email matter is a "limited hangout" by her

The Rove Bush crowd perfected this tactic. She's using it.

[Skwmom]

68. I think it was just the most manageable scandal and served as a distraction. n/t

[MisterP]

8. from Libya to Honduras, the story's the same

she doesn't care, and over two decades has cultivated millions of "unconditionals" who don't either: wars, incarceration, making us work until we're 70 (at least), ill-health, no schools, no jobs, loan sharking--there's going to be some cliche that they can turn to, some vial to anesthetize their ulcered consciences

[Fast Walker 52]

71. Syria is on at least partially on her as well

she definitely had a hand in (or approved of) the CIA backed regime change in Syria.

[Gregorian]

9. I think it's irresponsible to run a candidate with an FBI cloud over their head.

I think there's damage to the party and country by having this situation. There is a lot at stake here. Just an indictment would be enough to give repubs ammo in the general. But by then it would be too late.

[grasswire]

23. Aside from the possible indictment...

...there are even greater threats just being uncovered. I spent years defending the Clintons. Now I know that they are just as much grifters as the Bushes.

And it's even possible that she ran her own foreign policy shop away from the attention of Obama and in contravention to his orders. That is just being uncovered.

If anyone thinks that she is going to continue the policies of Obama, that's just nuts. She directly disobeyed him when she worked for him, with life and death consequences for people on the other side of the world.

[Skwmom]

88. What is this? The latest way to distance Clinton from Obama now that she is almost finished with the

deep South?

[RobinA]

11. Give Up

Ken. You've been after the Clintons since 1994, you haven't gotten them, you aren't going to.

[MrWendel]

12. If...

14 hours of Bengazi wont get her, this OP sure as hell won't.

[think]

15. was it not 11?

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/hillary-clinton-faced-11-hours-of-questioning-at-benghazi-hearing/

[MrWendel]

36. Your right...

just 11. Less impressive.

[Firebrand Gary]

22. LOL

[Wednesdays]

117. Um, wha?

[UglyGreed]

13. Never knew

Sidney Blumenthal Uses Former Right-Wing Foes To Attack Obama

Blumenthal is exploiting that same right-wing network to attack and discredit Barack Obama. And he's not hesitating to use the same sort of guilt-by-association tactics that have been the hallmark of the political right dating back to the McCarthy era.

Almost every day over the past six months, I have been the recipient of an email that attacks Obama's character, political views, electability, and real or manufactured associations. The original source of many of these hit pieces are virulent and sometimes extreme right-wing websites, bloggers, and publications. But they aren't being emailed out from some fringe right-wing group that somehow managed to get my email address. Instead, it is Sidney Blumenthal who, on a regular basis, methodically dispatches these email mudballs to an influential list of opinion shapers -- including journalists, former Clinton administration officials, academics, policy entrepreneurs, and think tankers -- in what is an obvious attempt to create an echo chamber that reverberates among talk shows, columnists, and Democratic Party funders and activists. One of the recipients of the Blumenthal email blast, himself a Clinton supporter, forwards the material to me and perhaps to others.

These attacks sent out by Blumenthal, long known for his fierce and combative loyalty to the Clintons, draw on a wide variety of sources to spread his Obama-bashing. Some of the pieces are culled from the mainstream media and include some reasoned swipes at Obama's policy and political positions.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-dreier/sidney-blumenthal-uses-fo_b_99695.html

[think]

17. So much going on behind the scenes...

[UglyGreed]

19. Yes indeed

power struggle.....

[grasswire]

27. ++++

And now she is trying to capture AA vote and certain liberal vote by claiming to perpetuate Obama's policies.

How cynical.

How disgusting.

[Dragonfli]

14. I agree with you regarding the shitstorm that will be uncovered

It will add so much baggage (to an already heavy load) that if she wins the nomination before it blows up we are screwed, with all the baggage she already carries and the fact she polls very badly already in honesty and match ups to republicans in a General Election.

What is to come will assure not only a Republican menace as president, but some really bad Supreme Court nominations, not to mention the down ticket disasters she would inflict on us.

One thing I feel certain about is that her get out of jail free card is of golden stock, just as if she were a banker laundering money for a drug cartel, she will never face any criminal charges for anything she has done that is being investigated on so money fronts.

It is selfish of her to drag the country down with her already dishonest name, but we both know she would prefer to take us all down than step down from the prize she has wanted since at least 2000, it has become an obsession with her and an obsession can not be reasoned with, it is a self fueled machine that drives the ambition forward, even if she were to learn tomorrow she would definitely lose, even if everyone in the world pointed it out to her.

If Sanders doesn't win the primary, we are all fucked.

[Skwmom]

18. It would seem that Obama holds that golden ticket. He is no going to let her get indicted. n/t

[PonyUp]

34. Wonder if she has something on Obama...

[MirrorAshes]

114. Oh FFS

You need to go outside more.

[grasswire]

50. we don't know that, honestly

He may be put in a very difficult position.

If a referral of criminality comes from the FBI and the AG refuses to indict, all hell will break loose. It will be watergate-like. The FBI director will resign. Chaos.

If he does allow Lynch to indict, Hillary will be cast to the dogs.

What the legal experts predict is that the FBI will present the evidence to Hillary's lawyers and ask her what she will agree to plead to. A plea agreement.

[LiberalArkie]

59. I predict that she will not accept anything that says she did something wrong.

It is not in her nature.

[Skwmom]

64. Well, Obama put himself in that position and he has all but endorsed her though now we seem to be

playing the distancing game.

[grasswire]

29. ++++

She is her own worst enemy, at least, and that works in the favor of democracy and justice.

[hopemountain]

40. yes, her nature cannot be

changed - vindictiveness and fear rule her manipulations - same as a scorpion.

[Firebrand Gary]

24. Is this for real?

[FlatBaroque]

43. Wow. What a stinging retort, Firebrand Gary.

Take it easy, man, take it easy.

[Adrahil]

25. Weirdest. Post. Ever. NT

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

99. Isn't it

[Recoverin_Republican]

28. I hate to interrupt your fugue state of rapture with GOP propaganda but....

Give a little thought to what a GOP campaign against Bernie Sanders might look like
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511457451

[grasswire]

30. Bring it on.

Bring it on.

The demographics of the country have changed. The outlook of the country has changed.

The majority of the American people are not afraid of socialism. Young people, old people, every stripe of person is not afraid of democratic socialism.

You are outnumbered now.

[Recoverin_Republican]

118. Republican Operatives Try to Help Bernie Sanders: "We'll win every state if Bernie's their nominee"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511276724

[noiretextatique]

31. Well...he did not support or facilitate a coup in Honduras

He is not under invesrigstion by the FBI, nor did he disobey a direct order by the President not to engage a slimebag who tried to destroy the President's reputation.

[George II]

38. Her detractors have been saying that for about 30 years, she's still standing strong....

...and she WILL win the Democratic Presidential nomination and be elected President.

There's nothing that any of these disruptive meta-discussion posts can do to prevent that.

[pdsimdars]

100. A girl can dream . . . . .

[George II]

106. Excuse me?

[gollygee]

39. Very few people have been as well vetted as Hillary Clinton

This is silly.

[Warren DeMontague]

47. Except there is still a current FBI investigation which could lead to indictmets.

I hope it doesnt, but if it does i hope it doesnt happen when we're already stuck with her as our nominee.

[grasswire]

52. la la la la la

Yours is an old talking point, no longer valid.

Remember? A hacker got her emails with Blumenthal. All bets are off now.

[FlatBaroque]

55. Investigated does not equal vetted. /

[FlatBaroque]

45. Can't be said enough. /

[lunamagica]

48. You are so funny! Thanks for the laugh!

[MerryBlooms]

51. No. She has as much right as anyone else to see it through...

the voters will make the decision for her and the other candidates. I know I will vote straight Democratic ticket no matter what, but that's my choice. I will not lecture others on their choices.

[SoapBox]

53. She would lose in a GE.

The "anybody but Hillary" vote would be huge.

Not to mention the endless onslaught of Clinton baggage.

[Godhumor]

60. So Bernie should stay in till the Convention, no matter what, but the front runner

Should drop out due to something possibly, maybe happening in the future?

Got it.

[thereismore]

61. This is what I don't get: She cut President Obama

at the knees with Blumenthal on Libya. She and the banished man conspired against the chief executive. What is Obama going to do about it?

[Blue Idaho]

66. He has done something...

President Barack Obama has said Hillary Clinton will go down “As one of the finest Secretaries of State.”

[Skwmom]

67. After that became public knowledge he embraced her with an everything but say the word endorsement.

That is what he did. Why? Who knows...

[Blue Idaho]

69. Sitting Presidents Never

Endorse candidates during primaries. Never.

[Skwmom]

75. Well, if you've done everything but say the word, in subtance that is an endorsement.

The interview, the words by his press secretary, etc.

[Blue Idaho]

77. Ok let's go with that then

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/10/politics/jay-carney-president-obama-supports-hillary-clinton/index.html

For those not wanting to follow the link:

"Jay Carney told CNN's Brooke Baldwin on Wednesday that's no accident -- and the President does want Clinton to win."

[fbc]

63. She should cut out the negative attacks if she wants a pardon

from President Sanders.

[Skwmom]

65. ALLOW her to step down? She is not going to step down. Hillary step down?

[retrowire]

70. Exactly.

It doesn't matter if you think she's strong enough to withstand the attacks. People aren't going to vote for a candidate who's always on the defense.

[leftofcool]

76. Funny, Democrats are voting for her 2 to 1 and she is ahead in the popular vote.

She is also ahead with female voters, AA voters, Latino voters and Asian voters.

[pdsimdars]

104. Again, better go look at the latest polling. . . you are mistaken

[Fast Walker 52]

72. her campaign does seem doomed

seems to me.

She really should just take her money and go away.

[Old Codger]

95. You survived

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[Fast Walker 52]

111. thanks-- I can see it was insensitive but it seemed to fit into the theme

I certainly don't mean any harm to Hillary. Was just thinking the expression fit her situation.

[Old Codger]

113. It did to a point

Sadly enough I am at a point that it has to be pretty bad to vote for a hide, after they called Bernie a "condescending mother fucker' and it didn't get a a hide I am prepared to let a lot pass that I might not have before. Yours was nothing that deserved a hide by any of my standards even before I went that route..

[Fast Walker 52]

115. hmmm....

anyway, I changed it. I didn't like the connotation.

[Skid Rogue]

78. LOL!!!!

I'm afraid you're going to have to do this the old fashioned way and win the most delegates.

[MrWendel]

81. These...

are some of the funniest posts I've read today.

[jmowreader]

83. I hope you have a candidate besides Bernie Sanders in mind to replace her

[Trust Buster]

84. If Sanders can't win on the merits, then that's just too bad.

.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

101. This ^^^^^^^^

[Metric System]

85. President Obama wants Hillary as the nominee.

[sister_rosa_refried]

86. Thank you for this, dear

I printed it out and I know just where to stick it.

[Hekate]

87. Your concern is duly noted and will be long remembered

Thank you so much for your concern.

Really. I mean it.

[gordyfl]

89. Hillary Did Very Well at the Benghazi Hearings

Except I remember her seemingly looking irritated, defensive and uncomfortable when asked about Sid Blumenthal. I really didn't know who he was at the time. I just remember her reaction when she was questioned about Mr. Blumenthal. It looks like it is starting to make sense.

[vdogg]

90. Lol, I'll give you points for effort

This is definitely a new tack...

[JGug1]

91. Hillary Clinton and Scandal

Somehow I think we ALL should need more than a rumor. What source are you siting? First there was White Water. then there was the staff member that she and Bill had murdered. Then there was Benghazi....Oh, I forgot....the Clintons taking dishes from the White House or Air Force I or maybe Karl Rove. Then there was the email stuff.......NOTHING. not one single thing, as been demonstrated to be true. I'm sorry. I suspect that you mean well but this kind of post, absent any references to real people, speaking on the record, is nothing except damaging to the nation, the Democratic Party, and of course, Hillary Clinton.

[pdsimdars]

105. FBI - - - - those 3 letters are not the same as GOP witch hunt. Really.

You can't really conflate the two.

[grasswire]

109. you are way, way, way behind the curve nt

[Duval]

92. "Epic corruption." She needs to step down.

This is going to hurt the DNC, but they do share a lot of the blame.

[MrScorpio]

93. It would be nice if investigative journalists were hot on the trail of Trump's massive corruption nt

[pdsimdars]

94. It is always worth trying, but you know, they don't respond to facts, they are ABOVE facts.

[madamesilverspurs]

103. Good lord.

[NNadir]

116. Well, thanks for telling me. I feel so stupid, and you're obviously so much wiser than I am.

Seriously.

Seriously. What I have learned at Democratic Underground is that as a supporter of Hillary Clinton, I'm stupid and evil.

As for why Ms. Clinton may be "ruined," the positive campaign run by Sanders supporters here had nothing to do with it, just like the positive campaign run by Ralph Nader who said only wonderful things about Al Gore had nothing to do with the destruction of the World Trade Center and two countries in Asia.

[kgnu_fan]

119. kick