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Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:28 PM

WashPost asks: "Why aren't Jews backing Sanders?" Which raises another important question:

Why aren't Sanders supporters asking Jewish voters to explain why they're supporting Hillary over Sanders?

Is it because, unlike voters of color, Jewish voters aren't assumed by some to be low-information voters, voting against their interests because of blind loyalty who need to have Sanders' value explained to them? Or are there other reasons?

Sanders is also up against an opponent with deep ties to the Jewish community. The Clintons have long enjoyed the support of many Jewish voters, including some significant donors.

“We like Hillary Clinton. We’ve known her well for many, many years. We’ve worked with her. There’s a tremendous comfort level,” said Rabinowitz, the former Bill Clinton staffer. “Bernie Sanders? Eh, don’t know him so well. Like him. Excited for him. Proud about his success. But we’re with the other guy.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/03/08/bernie-sanders-is-jewish-why-isnt-that-convincing-jews-to-vote-for-him/

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EffieBlack Mar 2016 OP
villager Mar 2016 #1
Karma13612 Mar 2016 #117
JackRiddler Mar 2016 #2
EffieBlack Mar 2016 #3
Cal Carpenter Mar 2016 #30
Marr Mar 2016 #33
JackRiddler Mar 2016 #70
kristopher Mar 2016 #96
Autumn Mar 2016 #4
EffieBlack Mar 2016 #6
Autumn Mar 2016 #9
malletgirl02 Mar 2016 #12
Ken Burch Mar 2016 #13
Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #17
Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #16
Behind the Aegis Mar 2016 #104
Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #114
Behind the Aegis Mar 2016 #115
katsy Mar 2016 #25
beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #5
EffieBlack Mar 2016 #11
beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #14
madfloridian Mar 2016 #22
katsy Mar 2016 #34
Loudestlib Mar 2016 #43
jwirr Mar 2016 #95
Loudestlib Mar 2016 #99
jwirr Mar 2016 #100
Loudestlib Mar 2016 #102
Arazi Mar 2016 #68
kristopher Mar 2016 #97
cyberpj Mar 2016 #7
LWolf Mar 2016 #112
HooptieWagon Mar 2016 #8
kcjohn1 Mar 2016 #10
Eric J in MN Mar 2016 #107
Behind the Aegis Mar 2016 #110
democrattotheend Mar 2016 #118
Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #15
Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #18
hopemountain Mar 2016 #19
NurseJackie Mar 2016 #21
hopemountain Mar 2016 #23
NurseJackie Mar 2016 #24
kristopher Mar 2016 #98
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hollysmom Mar 2016 #35
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Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #44
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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:30 PM

1. I will have to tell everyone at the synagogue where I work to take off those Sanders shirts, I guess

 

The Washington Post has just declared their support isn't real!

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Response to villager (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:26 PM

117. +10. LOL eom

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:31 PM

2. Says the "former Clinton advisor"

 

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Response to JackRiddler (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:35 PM

3. Why don't you read the whole story before commenting?

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:31 PM

30. I can't speak for JackRiddler, but I read the whole story

and they have no evidence for the claim that Jewish people aren't voting for Bernie aside from anecdotes from the likes of that former Clinton staffer.

I opened the link to see the numbers because I was curious how the vote was split. The article makes clear that there is no polling, no evidence, that it just seems that Jewish voters aren't supporting Bernie. Late in the article it states "it’s all guesswork." Well, that seems like a pretty spurious claim to use as the basis of an article.

That headline is divisive crap.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:34 PM

33. The writer admits they have zero data to back up their premise.

 

They buried that part in the middle. I guess you didn't read that far, if you actually thought this article was indicative of anything but the Hillary campaign's disgusting tendency to use race/gender/ethnicity as a wedge.

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Response to Marr (Reply #33)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:34 PM

70. ONLY THE HEADLINE MATTERS.

 

It then gets recycled on social media - also as threads here, as if here matters any more. It is all 99% of everyone who runs into this garbage will EVER SEE. Headlines are EVERYTHING. WaPo is obsolete and doesn't disguise its bias, while still claiming "objectivity." For this purpose it's a burden that any text needs to be written. Mock-text could fill in the space, except someone would notice and then that would be the story: "WaPo no longer bothering to write any stories below the headline before publishing."

In this case, you can be certain the headline preceded any effort by the "journalist." "Write a story about why Sanders is so unpopular with Jews." It must have been a burden indeed. The writer called a couple of people he already knew would give him the requisite quotes, and voila.

Story! Journalism!

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:33 PM

96. EffieBlack, would you mind responding to the clarifications?

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:36 PM

4. Who cares who they support. People will support the candidate of their choice.

No ones fucking business but their own. It's like me asking you why you support Hillary or you asking me why I support Bernie. It's a choice we have.

Not surprised at all that Rabinowitz, a former Bill Clinton staffer support Clinton. I'm a former Hillary supporter, don't support her anymore.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:40 PM

6. I agree - but a whole lot of your fellow Sanders supporters don't

As evidenced by the deluge of lectures about how black people voting for Hillary are voting against our interests, clueless, victims of Stockholm Syndrome, etc. accompanied by sanctimonious and condescending demands that we explain why we're voting the way we are.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:48 PM

9. I'm adult enough to ignore the Clinton supporters who do that shit and not complain about it.

Your vote is your business not mine or no one else's. You can vote for Trump and I don't care.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:52 PM

12. Clinton Supporters

do the same thing, to Bernie supporters, they are not innocent in all of this.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:53 PM

13. One guy did the Stockholm thing, and it's gone.

 

We aren't collectively to blame for that one.

And we're going to see a very different break in the AA vote in Illinois, Missouri, and Ohio.

Black voters in Chicago are not going to give heavy support to Rahm Emanuel's candidate.

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #13)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:00 PM

17. But they might support Barack Obama's former Secretary of State

I already voted:

I didn't think of Rahm Emanuel when I saw Hillary Clinton's name on the ballot.

I DID think of Rahm Emanuel when I saw Anita Alvarez's name on the ballot.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:58 PM

16. Deluge of lectures meaning that Stockholm Syndrome post which also targeted LGBT which is never

 

mentioned by those citing it and which was full of many persons who support Bernie raising holy hell at that OP. I posted very strongly in objection to that OP and I support Bernie but you are hanging that OP around my neck as well which makes you exactly the same as the twit who posted that OP in the first place.

You have a nice day.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #16)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 03:06 AM

104. And now it is being done to a different minority group, Jews.

Funny how we were ignored when we were slammed as GLBT people, and now, the same play is being made toward Jews. Actually, it reads more of a complaint (maybe an accusation?) that Jews aren't getting the same treatment.

ETA: BTW...this gay Jew thanks you for your comments then, since then, and now! L'Chaim chaver!

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #104)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 03:37 PM

114. Many thanks, the antisemitic undertone has been building was sure to get fully rolling soon enough..

 

and here it is.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #114)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:01 PM

115. It sure has.

Of course, it is always interesting to watch people get "suddenly" interested in GLBT issues and homophobia when it serves their agenda, this is exemplified in a post in LBN about Jewish students being harassed, and then morphs into something else. Anti-Semitism: the hate that keeps on "giving."

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:24 PM

25. I respect your choice! I don't assume anyone

is low info unless something totally whack comes out of their mouth.

You don't need to defend your choice but I see you posting here over and again about how bad Bernie supporters are. There's a whole slew of Bernie supporters here that aren't "over exuberant" so how about a nice shout out to them!

People have their own opinions. Alls good! No one is holding your vote hostage! I totally respect your vote.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:39 PM

5. Former Bill Clinton staffer?

You guys aren't even trying to pretend anymore, are you?

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:50 PM

11. Obviously, you haven't even bothered to read the article

Do you deny that Hillary has a larger share of Jewish support than Sanders? If she does, why aren't Sanders supporters questioning why that is?

Funny thing, I snipped the quote some of you are sneering at because it offered an explanation that is consistent with one of the reasons voters of color are giving for supporting Hillary over Bernie. It makes no difference who it came from but you seem to be so caught up in the anti-anything Clinton hysteria that you can't even address it.

Why do you think that Jews are supporting Hillary in larger numbers than they are supporting Bernie? And why aren't Bernie supporters asking Jews that question?

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:55 PM

14. Many Jews also support Republicans because they think Obama has been too hard on Netanyahu.

Do you really believe all Jews think alike?



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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:18 PM

22. I don't care!!

What is this...more David Brock type attacks that mean nothing at all?

Find the source of this...will head straight back to a Clinton operative....just like the racial attacks on Bernie.

It's all so shameful. Hillary needs to speak out about it.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:53 PM

43. "Do you deny that Hillary has a larger share of Jewish support than Sanders?"

I do. Now prove me wrong.

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Response to Loudestlib (Reply #43)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:32 PM

95. Please post your evidence. The article says there is no

evidence.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #95)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:58 PM

99. I read the article, you should try it.

"most national polling does not report which candidates Jews have voted for in the primaries and caucuses, or who they say they will support."

It's an opinion piece with no evidence, because there is none.

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Response to Loudestlib (Reply #99)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:03 AM

100. That is what I am saying.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #100)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:21 AM

102. Ha! I think we are confused.

I replied to: EffieBlack (4,394 posts)

"11. Obviously, you haven't even bothered to read the article

Do you deny that Hillary has a larger share of Jewish support than Sanders? If she does, why aren't Sanders supporters questioning why that is?

Funny thing, I snipped the quote some of you are sneering at because it offered an explanation that is consistent with one of the reasons voters of color are giving for supporting Hillary over Bernie. It makes no difference who it came from but you seem to be so caught up in the anti-anything Clinton hysteria that you can't even address it.

Why do you think that Jews are supporting Hillary in larger numbers than they are supporting Bernie? And why aren't Bernie supporters asking Jews that question? "

He asked if anyone denied that Hillary has a larger share of the Jewish support than Sanders, I replied that I do deny that she has a larger share. It's tough being the underdog. We are always on defense.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:31 PM

68. Please provide stats to support your allegation that more Jews support HRC

than Bernie

Thanks

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:37 PM

97. Posts 2, 3, 30, 33, and 70 seem to take your claims to the woodshed. True or not?

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:40 PM

7. Just as all women don't have to support 'the woman', all Jews don't have to support 'the Jew'.

 

But to believe WashPost and the one Jew they asked (who is a former Bill Clinton staffer for Pete's sake) is more than a little naive.


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Response to cyberpj (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 02:00 PM

112. +1

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:42 PM

8. WaPo...LOL!

 

Did they fire Capehart yet?

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:49 PM

10. Do we actually have stats on how Jews are voting?

So far all the votes have being in states with very little amount of jewish voters.

Probably the only area with any significant jewish presence is Oakland county in Michigan, and that went to Clinton 53-46 far cry from what we saw in the deep south where AA voters went to Clinton 91-9. Its mind boggling that people are offended when people ask why certain groups are voting the way they are doing, especially when its in uniform pattern.

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Response to kcjohn1 (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 03:46 AM

107. I've seen no statistics on how Jews are voting in the 2016 primaries.

But this is the second article I've seen claiming Jews were more excited about Joe Lieberman.

Personally, I'm Jewish, and in 2000 and 2004 I knew zero Joe Lieberman supporters of any religion.

Today, I know multiple Jews who support Bernie Sanders and multiple Jews who support Hillary Clinton.

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Response to Eric J in MN (Reply #107)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:13 AM

110. There haven't been any.

Like you, I too am Jewish. I knew plenty of Lieberman Jewish supporters in both times, less so in 2004. I don't care for how Lieberman "evolved" but the revisionism is irksome to say the least. "2000 Joe" wasn't the same "2004 Joe", and people need to remember this. While he was always traditionally Jewish and observant, he didn't take a hard right turn until after 9-11.

As for Sanders and Clinton, I haven't met by one Jew who is backing Clinton, everyone else is behind Sanders or leaning that way. However, this is just another form of baiting, and more of this type of bullshit is sure to come!

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Response to Eric J in MN (Reply #107)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:28 PM

118. A lot of us were excited about Lieberman in 2000

Even though he was too conservative for my liking, I felt proud that he was chosen to be Gore's VP because it was a symbol of how far we have come. Just like some black conservatives were proud of Obama's election even though they didn't agree with him politically (and may not have even voted for him). Plus, Lieberman wasn't nearly as intolerable back then as he became later.

At the same time, a lot of Jews were/are wary of having a Jewish president or vice president because throughout history one of the main antisemitic tropes has been that Jews have too much influence in government.

FWIW, I am way more excited about the prospect of Bernie becoming president than I was about the prospect of Lieberman becoming VP in 2000. And no, I didn't support Lieberman when he ran for president in 2004.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 07:57 PM

15. Haven't read the link, Effie, but I can guess at an answer here

Traditionally, Jewish voters are one of the most solid supporters of Democrats that you can find...every bit as solid as African americans, in fact, though in much fewer numbers.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:04 PM

18. And now this shit begins....more bait, more hooks, it's Stockholm Part Two, Electric Boogaloo

 

nt

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:12 PM

19. 16 attacks in 16 hours

The Washington Post Ran 16 negative stories attacking Bernie in 16 hours.

"In what hat has to be some kind of record, the Washington Post ran 16 negative stories on Bernie Sanders in 16 hours, between roughly 10:20 PM EST Sunday, March 6, to 3:54 PM EST Monday, March 7—a window that includes the crucial Democratic debate in Flint, Michigan, and the next morning’s spin:


http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/washington-post-ran-16-negative-stories-bernie-sanders-16-hours

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Response to hopemountain (Reply #19)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:14 PM

21. This is what vetting looks like.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #21)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:18 PM

23. hmm. i'm

pretty sure i had you blocked.

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Response to hopemountain (Reply #23)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:22 PM

24. Ha! :-D

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #21)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:40 PM

98. No, this is using that as an excuse to serve cooked-up Brock-lie smeared with smarm looks like.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:12 PM

20. According to the article, they have no idea if Jewish ppl are voting

for Bernie or Hillary, so it seems odd that it is framed this way based on a few anecdotes. I've got some anecdotes, too

The reasons that Jews as a whole seem not to be enthusiastic Sanders supporters are multifaceted, and difficult to fully ascertain since most national polling does not report which candidates Jews have voted for in the primaries and caucuses, or who they say they will support.

Most Jews are Democrats — 64 percent, compared to 26 percent who are Republican, according to Pew. Beyond that, it’s all guesswork.

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Response to Cal Carpenter (Reply #20)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:25 PM

26. Very Sad

Let them push this divisive narrative. People are getting wise to it. Bernie wants to unite people and the only way they can try to prevent it is by dividing us. Sad.

Among young Jews, Sanders has a strong following — just as he has drawn devoted supporters among young Democrats of all religions. However, many of those young Americans less reliably come out to the polls (except when they come out in huge numbers).

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:25 PM

27. God, not more attempts to stir up racial divisions. Does Team Hillary have *any* other plays?

 

Or, right-- stirring up divisions based on gender.

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Response to Marr (Reply #27)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:31 PM

31. Sanders is trailing among disabled LGBT Eskimos

 

And I think it is time we figured out why.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:26 PM

28. Most people just bet on the winner

 

If she stopped looking like the winner that would all change.

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Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:42 PM

36. You say that as though there aren't already tens of thousands of minorities

who have already voted for Bernie, let alone all of those who will vote for him in the coming weeks.

So divisive and condescending. And I'm finally going to say what I've been thinking for ages: the man in your avatar would be rolling in his grave....

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Response to Cal Carpenter (Reply #36)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:46 PM

39. Sanders is appealing primarily to white people and his supporters act

like minorities are too stupid to decide who will best represent them/us/country. It is, as I said, disgusting.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #39)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:04 PM

45. It is so odd that you can say things like that with such certainty.

I'm at a loss. It is odd, and it is also sad, because you are saying horrible things about some wonderful people and disregarding the hundreds of thousands (millions?) of minorities who will have voted for him when this is all said and done.

Don't they matter? It sounds almost like you are projecting your own disdain for people who don't see things like you do.

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Response to Cal Carpenter (Reply #36)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:52 PM

82. And Latinas like me who are excited to caucus for him this month! nt

 

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:31 PM

32. Oh look. A WaPo article.

 

Cool.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #32)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:39 PM

35. it's so shiny

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:44 PM

37. For few and I don' believe blocks are quite so blocky as others

but for a few, it might be that Hillary Clinton is much more aggressive on Israel that Bernie Sanders.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:46 PM

38. All anecdotes, no stats. Until we have real numbers this is sheer speculation

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:47 PM

40. The premise of the article is based on anecdote and not data.


Show me some data.

I suppose WAPO doesn't have the data to support this piece or they would have cited it.

But don't let that stop you from casting aspersions of racism.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #40)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:04 PM

44. There is polling...well, one, but it is not recent


Regarding the 2016 presidential field, Hillary Clinton was the runaway favorite of American Jews. Nearly 40 percent of those polled chose her as their first choice out of a list of the four Democratic hopefuls and 10 GOP hopefuls. Clinton’s top challenger, Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, was the second choice, garnering 18 percent. Billionaire businessman Donald Trump was the third choice (10 percent), while Jeb Bush polled fourth (9 percent).

The poll, the AJC 2015 Survey of American Jewish Opinion, questioned 1,030 American Jews from Aug. 7-22, when the Iran debate was reaching a fever pitch and a Congressional vote on the deal neared. The survey, which was released last week on the eve of the High Holidays, has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.7 percent.

In terms of the respondents’ demographics, 35 percent of respondents said they were Reform, 17.6 percent Conservative, 8.1 percent Orthodox and 1.3 percent Reconstructionist. Thirty-seven percent of respondents — nearly four in 10 — said they were Just Jewish, unconnected to any denomination.

Nearly 49 percent labeled themselves as Democrat, 19 percent Republican and 32 percent Independent. Forty-five percent of those polled said they are liberal or lean liberal, 22 percent said conservative or lean conservative. Thirty-four percent described themselves as moderate/middle of the road.


http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/national/looking-ahead-16-vote-iran-not-jews-radar

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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #44)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:08 PM

47. AJC 2015 Survey of American Jewish Opinion, questioned

 

Jesus, you really do know that at that instant in time Sanders was not that well known RIGHT? The story stinks, and it is exactly what I expected an operative to do sooner or later. I guess it is now sooner.

August 22, 2015 that data has been not really valid for a loong time by the way

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #47)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:35 PM

72. Someone asked for data

this is the most recent that I could find other than one poll that was done in Israel...

...and you want to get on my ass about it...folks need to calm the fuck down

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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #72)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:37 PM

73. And the data point was valid up to two weeks

 

after that.

This is how polling works.

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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #44)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:10 PM

48. That's what I thought. Not nearly the dedicated voter block as AfAms with HRC.


It was probably still 8:1 support for HRC from Black voters last September while it was only 2:1 for Jewish Americans.

I'm not seeing the parallel that the OP is premised upon.

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Response to aikoaiko (Reply #48)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:39 PM

75. My suspicion

It would probably be in the 60-40/65-35 range for Clinton. I've studied this a little bit in the past and from what I have studied, Jewish people tend to be rock solid Democrats.

One story did note, though, that one

And no Jewish Congressperson has endorsed Sanders that I can think of.

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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #44)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:42 PM

77. That poll is biased:

AJC POLL: U.S. JEWS SPLIT ON IRAN DEAL, CLINTON THE PREFERRED PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE
September 11, 2015


WASHINGTON (JTA) —

That’s a virtual tie, based on the 4.7 percent margin of error. The poll of 1,035 Jews was conducted Aug. 7-22 by GfK. Recent general population polling has showed support for the deal plummeting to the 20s.

...

On the Iran deal, the AJC pollsters went for a straightforward question: “Recently, the U.S., along with five other countries, reached a deal on Iran’s nuclear program. Do you approve or disapprove of this agreement?”

A range of other polls of U.S. Jews on the Iran issue have been accused of bias because of questions that attempted to contextualize or explain the deal.

In a follow-up question, the AJC respondents showed a lack of confidence in the ability of the deal to keep Iran from developing nuclear weapons. Those who replied “very confident” numbered just 4.9 percent, while “somewhat confident” were at 30.7 percent; The “not so confident” came in at 30.1 percent and the “not at all confident” were at 33.2 percent. Overall, that showed 35.6 percent expressing confidence in the deal and 64.3 percent expressing a lack of confidence.

...

Respondents were slightly likelier than not to believe that ties between the United States and Israel were strained. Asked if U.S.-Israel ties were getting better or worse, 4.7 percent said “better” and 42.2 percent said they were the same, while 51.9 percent said they were worse.

Respondents were culled from a pool of 55,000 people who had been asked through a system of random selection to participate in such surveys. They responded via email.

Traditional pollsters prefer cold-calling, saying that self-selection — in this case, by agreeing to be part of a survey pool —inevitably skews results, leaving out respondents who might otherwise not have prepared themselves for polling. However, with the advent of cell phones, cold-call surveys have become for some groups prohibitively expensive, and an increasing number of polls are conducted through email among respondents who have expressed a willingness to be surveyed.

- See more at: http://www.ajc.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=7oJILSPwFfJSG&b=8479729&ct=14762867#.dpuf

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #77)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:49 PM

80. Someone asked for data

other than a poll of Jewish Israelis, that's all that I've found.

I'm certain that some of those numbers have changed.

You are welcome to look for other polls.

Here's an even older poll with results that you might like

http://jpupdates.com/2015/04/27/ny-poll-shows-hillary-clinton-vulnerable-among-jewish-voters/

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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #80)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:51 PM

81. I have, as far as I know there are none.

The only reason I know about this one is because someone else recently cited some of the data without linking to it and I had to find it myself.

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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #81)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:01 PM

83. I'm trying to look at some of the data

from more localized Jewish newspapers and blogs...they MIGHT have something pertaining to the locality

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Response to Chitown Kev (Reply #83)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:08 PM

85. I did find this from the sun-sentinel/florida jewish journal

http://jpupdates.com/2015/04/27/ny-poll-shows-hillary-clinton-vulnerable-among-jewish-voters/

It's only speculation as opposed to data but...it does talk about the Lieberman effect...and the Obama effect.

"Because he so much downplays his Jewishness, he doesn't invite a triumphant ethnocentric response of people who would say, 'I'm Jewish; he's Jewish,'" said Rabbi Jonah Pesner, the director of the Religious Action Center, which is the nonpartisan political activism arm of Reform Judaism, the most numerous and generally the most liberal of the Jewish denominations in America.

Pesner also theorized that Sanders's candidacy does not feel so unprecedented to most American Jews, thus dimming the enthusiasm for a historic campaign.

"It's not like Joe Lieberman, where it really felt remarkable. Now, it's not remarkable. Fifteen years is a long time," Pesner said. "We've had a black president. Don't underestimate what that means to the Jewish community."

Pesner speculated that seeing one minority candidate achieve the nation's highest office has eased the anxieties about acceptance among other minority groups, including Jews, who make up about 2 percent of the American population. Mitt Romney, a Mormon who became the Republican nominee in 2012, seemed to prove the same point.

Windmueller echoed that. "A number of things have changed. The election of a black president has already broken the color line. . .. Everyone or anyone can see him or herself or her group in the political mix."


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/florida-jewish-journal/jj-bernie-sanders-is-jewish-but-that-isn-t-convincing-jews-to-vote-for-him-20160308-story.html


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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:49 PM

41. I'm Jewish. I support Sanders. According to the current agenda of DU, you asking this question

 

...is offensive to me.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:51 PM

42. Why are YOU asking the very thing your first sentence says "isn't happening"?

You say:

"Why aren't Sanders supporters asking Jewish voters to explain why they're supporting Hillary over Sanders? "

And yet... that is exactly what you are doing.

It would be funny if it didn't stink.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:05 PM

46. You know there is no polling info on this right?

 

by the way, using the same crappy anecdotal data, why are Jews voting for Trump?

Yes, I know a few.

Oh and i know of a word that is coming to mind, but given I expected this FROM CAMPAIGN operatives, I am all but shocked or surprised.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #46)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:13 PM

50. See post #44 above. nt

 

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #50)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:24 PM

53. You are going to hang your hat on a poll done in August of 2015

 

m'kay... it is March... it is way past it's expiration point as valid data. But you knew that

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #53)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:25 PM

55. You said none. That's not quite true. nt

 

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #55)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:26 PM

57. You are going to hang your hat on that

 

sure... by all means, please proceed.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #57)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:26 PM

59. Nope, you're hanging your hat on "none" and "none" is not correct. nt

 

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #59)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:27 PM

60. I am hanging my hat on this poll was done

 

so long ago that what I said is far more valid. YOU FRACKING KNOW THAT, or at least you should as working media. But hey, whatever, by the WAPO methods, why are Jews voting for Trump?

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #60)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:29 PM

65. Working in media, you should know the dangers of absolute terms like "All" and "None"

 

And instead of attacking me for pointing out the error of your using one of them in this case, you should acknowledge the point and move on.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #65)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:30 PM

67. I am not attacking you

 

and you are the one using all and none... and trying to divide people into nice little boxes, stacks as it were. So is the campaign by the way. I find it quite insulting to voters.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #55)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:37 PM

74. August of 2015. LOL. I would be embarrassed if I were a "journalist". nt

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #53)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:28 PM

61. August! Incredible, no?

 

Back when Sanders had 100% name recognition in Vermont and 8% everywhere else.

Whatever seems to support the predetermined case, I guess.

Anyway, this is VERY important - how do people sorted into identity categories respond to the names of individuals.

Issues of actual concern to a polity are NOT important. No, no!

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Response to JackRiddler (Reply #61)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:29 PM

63. As I said, this I expected

 

and the way of framing this is well... we are now seeing the leading edge of that. I wonder if the OP is a (lead) balloon as it were?

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #63)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:31 PM

69. Why haven't they tried the identity voting schtick on Armenians yet?

 

Or my Greeks? I am so devastated! No one's pandering to us before things get to New York, if ever. No doubt we'll discover from the WaPo or Journalist Steve Leser that 97.8% of Greeks support Clinton because of the long history of her close and loving association with them.

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Response to JackRiddler (Reply #69)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:35 PM

71. Damn, now I know...

 

Thanks!!!!

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #71)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:41 PM

76. As SOS she was so helpful to Greece during the crisis.

 

She'll probably remember that. She went to the IMF and EU and said, "Hey guys, cut it out!"

Where was Sanders?!

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Response to JackRiddler (Reply #76)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:33 PM

87. yup

 

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #46)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:25 PM

54. By Washington Post method...

 

In New York I've spoken to two dozen Jewish people at least, and they're all for Bernie Sanders.

So, again, by WaPo method, how will Clinton recover from losing 100% of the Jewish vote?

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Response to JackRiddler (Reply #54)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:26 PM

58. And as I said, I know a few that will vote for Trump

 

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #58)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:29 PM

64. To be honest, so do I.

 

Anyway, what matters is not why they might do that. What matters is to sort them into a box by identity and claim this identity is the most important determinant in their vote.

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Response to JackRiddler (Reply #64)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:29 PM

66. Yup. yup, yup

 

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:12 PM

49. Very similar to the reasons African Americans are supporting her. Deep history. nt

 

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #49)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:24 PM

52. Hey, Journalist and unpaid FOXNEWS pundit Steve Leser, how are you?

 

Journalist Steve Leser in 2008: Hillary is a liar.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=658816

You are wrong about the direction both of these groups are headed from Tuesday forward. But that's not surprising.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:13 PM

51. Little Julie Zauzmer, couple o' years out of Harvard...

now spreading FUD at the WaPo. Perhaps she and Capehart will join forces for some of that hard-hitting journalism we've come to expect.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:26 PM

56. So many people here failing reading-comprehension 101 ,its stunning, sorry Effie

its staring them in the face , but they just cant see the question you are posing.

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Response to pkdu (Reply #56)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:38 PM

88. That's because it doesn't fit their narrative.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:29 PM

62. More division.

 

What a surprise. The eagerness to feed it is unsettling.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:45 PM

78. Clinton is hawkish regarding Israel.

 

She promises a more pro-Israel foreign policy, meaning a more aggressive approach to Iran, perhaps dismantling the nuclear agreement. This may explain why Sanders is making inroads with Arab and Muslim voters.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 09:48 PM

79. I think we should be careful of what we decide to make an OP

 

I believe the unwritten rule is that we must be the minority in questions to post about minority voting demographics and what that minority may or may not do, based on visible or written documentation. Otherwise, we will be guilty of x-splaining or talking out of turn. If not actually being accused of being racists or using minorities to benefit our candidate.






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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:06 PM

84. Has Bernie Sanders ever addressed growing antisemitism on US college campuses?

Or elsewhere?

I've heard him often address Islamophobia, racism but have yet to hear anything on antisemitism. Hopefully, I just missed it.

Thanks in advance.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:10 PM

86. Hillary fans-- this, right here, is why people don't trust your candidate.

 

Her campaign, and apparently her supporters, care nothing for facts and data-- just headlines. They gleefully and cynically use race/ethnicity/gender as a wedge, and giggle when called on it.

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Response to Marr (Reply #86)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:56 PM

90. ^^^THIS^^^


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Response to Marr (Reply #86)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:18 PM

92. x 100000

 

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Response to Marr (Reply #86)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:31 PM

94. Ugly is as ugly does

 

and you absolutely Marr'ed the hell out of that.

(You and the Mordor gif has forever endeared you to my heart. I laugh about that every time I see your name, with joy, that we have such thoughtful and witty people on DU)

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Response to Marr (Reply #86)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:36 AM

103. Agree. And every time they do it, it hurts their cause in the long run.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 10:55 PM

89. I've put up a large Bernie banner in my front yard

My first idea was to put up a banner that said "another old Jewish socialist for Sanders" but my wife thought many folks wouldn't get it. Maybe I should revisit my first idea?

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:15 PM

91. What I have noticed is that a lot of media pundits of Jewish persuasion tend not to back

 

Bernie. Paul Krugman is a notable example. There are several others I've noticed, certainly "establishment" media is not enthralled with Bernie.

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #91)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 03:54 AM

109. Sam Seder of The Majority Report

...is now a podcaster. He's Jewish and supporting Bernie Sanders. I watch video excerpts from his show on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/user/SamSeder

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:27 PM

93. I have trouble responding to this post

 

because I am not an anti-semitic asshole.

Why in the hell should we be responding to it at all on DU?

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:14 AM

101. Who says???

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 03:21 AM

105. Please explain to me why you think a person's religion, race, gender should play a role ...

in selecting a leader? You obviously thought it had enough merit to post the article and headline ... I just do not get it!


"Why aren't Sanders supporters asking Jewish voters to explain why they're supporting Hillary over Sanders?" WTF!


Answer is because we do not care what a person's religion is, or the color of their skin or who they sleep with at night.


Stop dividing people! This is really unbelievable, what century are we in?








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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 03:25 AM

106. Why don't all WOMEN vote for Hillary????!11111!!????

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 03:49 AM

108. I'm Methodist and not supporting Hillary.

Dumb fucking article by yet another lame-ass WaPo "reporter." It's sad how far that paper has fallen...

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 01:07 PM

111. With all these groups not supporting Sanders how the flying fuck does he win any primaries?

 

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 02:22 PM

113. More divisive bullshit.

Individuals are more than their race or religion. They have MINDS that can THINK and make decisions based on their own particular circumstances. Blacks aren't a homogenous bloc, nor are Latinos, Jews, Catholics, Muslims, old white people or whatever.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:24 PM

116. Some Jews are afraid of having a Jewish president

I'm Jewish, and I support Bernie, but some Jews are afraid of having a Jewish president of the United States. As counterintuitive as that might seem, a lot of antisemitism throughout history has been driven by beliefs of Jews having too much control in government and finance. Some Jewish voters are understandably afraid that having a Jewish president will fuel that meme and increase antisemitism in the US. After seeing how much racism has been dredged up by having a black president I can't say I totally blame them.

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