2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumA while back I said something about Hillary Clinton calling Henry Kissinger her friend.
I was quickly corrected by a Hillary supporter who told me that Hillary didn't say that Kissinger was her friend, only that she had admired him and his work as Secretary of State. Well I got to thinking about it and decided to google it and this is what I found
From the NYTimes no less, in her own words to a review of his book "World Order":
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/12/hillary-clintons-ties-to-henry-kissinger-come-back-to-haunt-her/
The friendship came back to haunt her in the Democratic presidential debate on Thursday night, when Senator Bernie Sanders pointedly questioned Mrs. Clintons foreign policy judgment, saying President Richard M. Nixons secretary of state had enabled genocide in Cambodia under Pol Pot.
Im proud to say Henry Kissinger is not my friend, Mr. Sanders said.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Cleita
(75,480 posts)said the Clintons and the Kissinger's vacation together in the Dominican Republic. That is a little bit closer than just admiring each other.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,588 posts)And off to the Greatest Page with you!
EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)senseandsensibility
(17,000 posts)Jopin Klobe
(779 posts)... keep our money safe and our secrets secret ...
JEB
(4,748 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Take Social Security...and Democracy.
The author was a Chicago Boy helping implement the privatization scam for Pinochet, ITT and the globalist crowd:
President Clinton and the Chilean Model.
By José Piñera
Midnight at the House of Good and Evil
"It is 12:30 at night, and Bill Clinton asks me and Dottie: 'What do you know about the Chilean social-security system?' recounted Richard Lamm, the three-term former governor of Colorado. It was March 1995, and Lamm and his wife were staying that weekend in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House.
I read about this surprising midnight conversation in an article by Jonathan Alter (Newsweek, May 13, 1996), as I was waiting at Dulles International Airport for a flight to Europe. The article also said that early the next morning, before he left to go jogging, President Bill Clinton arranged for a special report about the Chilean reform produced by his staff to be slipped under Lamm's door.
That news piqued my interest, so as soon as I came back to the United States, I went to visit Richard Lamm. I wanted to know the exact circumstances in which the president of the worlds superpower engages a fellow former governor in a Saturday night exchange about the system I had implemented 15 years earlier.
Lamn and I shared a coffee on the terrace of his house in Denver. He not only was the most genial host to this curious Chilean, but he also proved to be deeply motivated by the issues surrounding aging and the future of America. So we had an engaging conversation. At the conclusion, I ventured to ask him for a copy of the report that Clinton had given him. He agreed to give it to me on the condition that I do not make it public while Clinton was president. He also gave me a copy of the handwritten note on White House stationery, dated 3-21-95, which accompanied the report slipped under his door. It read:
Dick,
Sorry I missed you this morning.
It was great to have you and Dottie here.
Here's the stuff on Chile I mentioned.
Best,
Bill.
Three months before that Clinton-Lamm conversation about the Chilean system, I had a long lunch in Santiago with journalist Joe Klein of Newsweek magazine. A few weeks afterwards, he wrote a compelling article entitled,[font color="green"] "If Chile can do it...couldn´t North America privatize its social-security system?" [/font color]He concluded by stating that "the Chilean system is perhaps the first significant social-policy idea to emanate from the Southern Hemisphere." (Newsweek, December 12, 1994).
I have reasons to think that probably this piece got Clintons attention and, given his passion for policy issues, he became a quasi expert on Chiles Social Security reform. Clinton was familiar with Klein, as the journalist covered the 1992 presidential race and went on anonymously to write the bestseller Primary Colors, a thinly-veiled account of Clintons campaign.
The mother of all reforms
While studying for a Masters and a Ph.D. in economics at Harvard University, I became enamored with Americas unique experiment in liberty and limited government. In 1835 Alexis de Tocqueville wrote the first volume of Democracy in America hoping that many of the salutary aspects of American society might be exported to his native France. I dreamed with exporting them to my native Chile.
So, upon finishing my Ph.D. in 1974 and while fully enjoying my position as a Teaching Fellow at Harvard University and a professor at Boston University, I took on the most difficult decision in my life: to go back to help my country rebuild its destroyed economy and democracy along the lines of the principles and institutions created in America by the Founding Fathers. Soon after I became Secretary of Labor and Social Security, and in 1980 I was able to create a fully funded system of personal retirement accounts. Historian Niall Ferguson has stated that this reform was the most profound challenge to the welfare state in a generation. Thatcher and Reagan came later. The backlash against welfare started in Chile.
But while de Tocquevilles 1835 treatment contained largely effusive praise of American government, the second volume of Democracy in America, published five years later, strikes a more cautionary tone. He warned that the American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money. In fact at some point during the 20th century, the culture of self reliance and individual responsibility that had made America a great and free nation was diluted by the creation of [font color="green"] an Entitlement State,[/font color] reminiscent of the increasingly failed European welfare state. What America needed was a return to basics, to the founding tenets of limited government and personal responsibility.
[font color="green"]In a way, the principles America helped export so successfully to Chile through a group of free market economists needed to be reaffirmed through an emblematic reform. I felt that the Chilean solution to the impending Social Security crisis could be applied in the USA.[/font color]
CONTINUED...
http://www.josepinera.org/articles/articles_clinton_chilean_model.htm
That guy thinks the world of capitalism, as does his wife.
Hiraeth
(4,805 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)I sometimes think Harvard exists to create euphemisms.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)Jopin Klobe
(779 posts)... that we read ...
Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)Thanks for the thread, cannabis_flower.
Iggo
(47,549 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)A bell is going off in my head. I didn't know Primary Colors was about Clinton!
thereismore
(13,326 posts)sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)and she destroyed Hondura's democracy.
Oh, they my to be deep personal friends,
but they share the same view of the world.
burrowowl
(17,638 posts)Kissinger is a war criminal, is he Hillary's MODEL!?!
sgmcenroe
(30 posts)seems to be slipping a bit these days with little bouts of forgetfullness - Like Bernie standing behind her while she praises his help on her Hillary Care effort.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)Months and the HRC apologists pop up every time and claim she had no choice, or she was just being polite, or some other nonsense excuse.
Next to Kissinger, Cheny was Mr. Rogers.
Mark 750
(79 posts)Posted many times in regard to Kissinger and the Clinton's relationship:
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/hillary-clinton-kissinger-vacation-dominican-republic-de-la-renta
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)to support a candidate that you must make excuses for.
Nearly every single day Hillary is making a statement that she misspoke and nearly every single day she is saying something that contradicts her own verifiable record.
I understand completely why a voter who is not tuned in and really doesn't know the ins and outs of politics supporting Clinton. She is well known and has stood up against some attacks. I can't understand someone that must face the truth as a tuned in voter sticking with her. I really can't. How can someone spend any time spinning the message, day after day after day after day after day?
I can't imagine.
Ivan Kaputski
(528 posts)Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Goldwater, Kissinger, Wal-Mart, Wall Street paid tool, heaping praise for Nancy Raygun and now Dick Cheney's endorsement. You HRC shills really need to explain how you can be Democrats and still support her.
nationalize the fed
(2,169 posts)You might be a "Conspiracy Theorist"
The dirty secret about Henry K is that he never left Washington DC
He's a member of the "New World Order" brigade, and isn't afraid to talk about it
jack_krass
(1,009 posts)Last edited Sun Mar 13, 2016, 11:55 AM - Edit history (1)
Depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is.
I expect some "evolution" on this position, specially if Sec Clinton starts taking flak over it..m
She evolved in just a day when she started hemorrhaging LGBT votes, going from claiming Ronnie & Nancy were pioneers in the fight against AIDS to floating the "I meant Alzheimer's" trial balloon, and then to "I misspoke", and then to "It was inaccurate."
Not a lot of kids know that Kissinger is Cheney-squared, though.
I'm betting she thinks (and rightly) that it'll blow over.
Mufaddal
(1,021 posts)"I really consider President and Mrs. Mubarak to be friends of my family."
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2011/01/secretary-clinton-in-2009-i-really-consider-president-and-mrs-mubarak-to-be-friends-of-my-family.html
Agony
(2,605 posts)another notch on the Secretary Clinton is not Leadership tally stick
https://www.hrw.org/legacy/backgrounder/mena/egypt-bck-1001.htm
Vattel
(9,289 posts)pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Ivan Kaputski
(528 posts)Herman4747
(1,825 posts)Agony
(2,605 posts)on Clinton's part, her foreign policy in particular is a disaster.
at any rate I have not heard her backtrack on HK which would at least be a small something...