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Sun Mar 13, 2016, 05:29 PM

A Chant just broke out at Ohio State during Bernie's speech

"Bernie Sanders has our back! We don't need no SuperPac!"

Anybody who is not watching and listening to Bernie's campaign events is underestimating what is going on in this country right now. The political revolution has begun.

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Reply A Chant just broke out at Ohio State during Bernie's speech (Original post)
BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 OP
Barack_America Mar 2016 #1
litlbilly Mar 2016 #2
CentralMass Mar 2016 #106
Pastiche423 Mar 2016 #107
itsrobert Mar 2016 #3
EndElectoral Mar 2016 #5
Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #10
Duval Mar 2016 #32
casperthegm Mar 2016 #40
bvar22 Mar 2016 #53
St Aug girl Mar 2016 #78
appalachiablue Mar 2016 #84
senz Mar 2016 #105
DUbeornot2be Mar 2016 #110
WiffenPoof Mar 2016 #55
Enthusiast Mar 2016 #60
Bohunk68 Mar 2016 #108
Enthusiast Mar 2016 #49
truegrit44 Mar 2016 #56
appalachiablue Mar 2016 #119
lbp Mar 2016 #38
Doctor_J Mar 2016 #68
elljay Mar 2016 #131
Scootaloo Mar 2016 #103
ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #115
roguevalley Mar 2016 #124
ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #125
TwilightGardener Mar 2016 #9
itsrobert Mar 2016 #12
TwilightGardener Mar 2016 #20
LineLineLineLineLineReply .
emmadoggy Mar 2016 #29
nomorenomore08 Mar 2016 #43
SheilaT Mar 2016 #39
nomorenomore08 Mar 2016 #45
SheilaT Mar 2016 #63
nomorenomore08 Mar 2016 #97
Samantha Mar 2016 #91
bvar22 Mar 2016 #130
BuelahWitch Mar 2016 #54
itsrobert Mar 2016 #65
KelleyKramer Mar 2016 #70
BuelahWitch Mar 2016 #72
itsrobert Mar 2016 #75
KelleyKramer Mar 2016 #79
All in it together Mar 2016 #88
KelleyKramer Mar 2016 #93
Kensan Mar 2016 #129
Karma13612 Mar 2016 #71
BuelahWitch Mar 2016 #73
itsrobert Mar 2016 #76
lostnfound Mar 2016 #59
RiverNoord Mar 2016 #67
sammythecat Mar 2016 #95
LittleGirl Mar 2016 #98
Enthusiast Mar 2016 #109
Puglover Mar 2016 #112
mikehiggins Mar 2016 #87
rhett o rick Mar 2016 #123
Hydra Mar 2016 #92
TwilightGardener Mar 2016 #94
UglyGreed Mar 2016 #13
truehawk2 Mar 2016 #24
Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #34
Enthusiast Mar 2016 #62
paleotn Mar 2016 #64
RepubliCON-Watch Mar 2016 #80
DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #35
Duval Mar 2016 #36
Ken Burch Mar 2016 #41
Plucketeer Mar 2016 #44
Raster Mar 2016 #48
Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #52
Enthusiast Mar 2016 #57
anothergreenbus Mar 2016 #61
Turn CO Blue Mar 2016 #66
bjobotts Mar 2016 #77
roody Mar 2016 #81
Buddyblazon Mar 2016 #86
cui bono Mar 2016 #90
senz Mar 2016 #99
Scootaloo Mar 2016 #104
CobaltBlue Mar 2016 #111
rhett o rick Mar 2016 #121
Ladyhawk Mar 2016 #114
harun Mar 2016 #117
rhett o rick Mar 2016 #120
noiretextatique Mar 2016 #132
Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #4
cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #6
bvf Mar 2016 #28
Ken Burch Mar 2016 #42
Stryder Mar 2016 #46
cantbeserious Mar 2016 #7
warrprayer Mar 2016 #8
Doitnow Mar 2016 #11
PeoViejo Mar 2016 #14
Nickel79 Mar 2016 #15
Snotcicles Mar 2016 #16
Duppers Mar 2016 #22
Chezboo Mar 2016 #17
KoKo Mar 2016 #18
Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #19
liberalnarb Mar 2016 #21
JackRiddler Mar 2016 #74
ZX86 Mar 2016 #23
truehawk2 Mar 2016 #25
emmadoggy Mar 2016 #33
turbinetree Mar 2016 #26
Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #27
Duval Mar 2016 #30
thereismore Mar 2016 #31
tabasco Mar 2016 #37
Plucketeer Mar 2016 #47
Duval Mar 2016 #50
SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #51
Enthusiast Mar 2016 #58
klook Mar 2016 #69
AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #102
MADem Mar 2016 #82
kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #83
Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #85
cui bono Mar 2016 #89
PatrickforO Mar 2016 #96
ucrdem Mar 2016 #100
noiretextatique Mar 2016 #133
C Moon Mar 2016 #101
asuhornets Mar 2016 #113
treestar Mar 2016 #116
FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #126
IHateTheGOP Mar 2016 #118
BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #122
FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #127
ucrdem Mar 2016 #128

Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 05:31 PM

1. Fired up!

Feelin' the Bern!

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:02 PM

2. thats how I felt at the portland event in august. 28k people:) it was amazing

 

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:03 AM

106. I was at the Portland event as well. It was quite an event.

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Response to litlbilly (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:08 AM

107. I was on the floor

about 30 feet from Bernie's right side at the Moda Center on August 9, 2015.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:16 PM

3. How many will be disappointed when he doesn't give them anything near free healthcare and college?

How many will be calling him a "fucking used car salesman"?

The Bernie hangover will be epic.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:19 PM

5. The same number that would be dissapointed in a candidate who didn't have the guts to try.

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Response to EndElectoral (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:26 PM

10. This. They think we want free stuff when what we really we want is a fair shot.

The Hills can shove the free stuff for all I care. I want a voice in my government, and if we decide we want to allocate funds to provide free stuff, then that's that.

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Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:22 PM

32. +1

 

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Response to Duval (Reply #32)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:44 PM

40. +2

This is exactly the kind of thing the shows the separation between Hillary supporters and Bernie supporters.

The HRC supporters condescendingly point out the tough odds of Bernie getting many of his ambitious goals accomplished, as if we are too naive to realize that it's going to be difficult to accomplish. We are well aware of the challenges. While it would be nice to get them all done, and we'll fight for it, we appreciate that at least we have a candidate who is going to bat for us, fighting the status quo and refusing to settle. We're not naive. We're just done being told to settle.

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Response to casperthegm (Reply #40)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:20 PM

53. "It is not necessary to see the whole staircase, just the first step."

---Dr. Martin Luther King


I can SEE the first step, and his name is Bernie Sanders.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #53)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:28 PM

78. Great quote

Love this!

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #53)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 10:17 PM

84. Thanks! Such a great one-

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #53)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:49 AM

105. Nice way to put it, bvar22.

 

Too bad they just don't get it.

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Response to casperthegm (Reply #40)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:24 PM

55. Excellent Post

I know that what he proposes will be extremely difficult to accomplish. But you see, that is not the point. We all know it will be difficult.

What is important is that we have someone who will fight for us. Of this, I have no doubt. Then, if he fails, I can HONESTLY say that he gave it his best shot on our behalf. How could I possibly be disappointed in someone that will fight for me in the way I know he will.

It is better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all.

-P

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Response to casperthegm (Reply #40)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:30 PM

60. Yooge plus one!

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Response to casperthegm (Reply #40)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:33 AM

108. You nailed it.

+1,000

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Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:09 PM

49. +1 an entire shit load.

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Response to Ed Suspicious (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:24 PM

56. It's not the free stuff

which would be a nice bonus..........it is the one that truly in his heart cares about the people, not the one who only cares about making her friends rich and herself having power, and to hell with the people of this country.

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Response to truegrit44 (Reply #56)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 10:53 AM

119. That's it. How anyone CAN'T understand Bernie's fight for the people baffles me.

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Response to EndElectoral (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:36 PM

38. +1

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Response to EndElectoral (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:58 PM

68. The Hillarians don't want her to try. They won't be disappointed. It will be a stream of

 

excuses, just like the BOG.

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #68)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:09 PM

131. They just want her

They don't care about anything else.

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Response to EndElectoral (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:34 AM

115. What Too Many Hillary Supporters Keep Missing Here Is This...

We AREN'T asking for FREE STUFF! We're asking that we have a LEADER who is willing to try to take on the GIANTS that have their thumb on this country and make the changes this country so desperately needs!

We're FED up with the manipulation, lies and corruption that most of us has KNOWN has been going on for way too long. THEY AREN'T EVEN TRYING!

The whole system seems stacked against us by the POWER BROKERS in this country who want it ALL for themselves while we struggle to pay the bill!

I know I've been fed up for much too long, and we have a candidate who says HE NEEDS US to try to fight for these changes. Not all of them will come easily and not all of them will get done. But saying we will put a band-aid on policies that need so much attention isn't a message that we're willing to accept anymore.

THEY WORK FOR US! It's time they at least try! It took a very long time to get into this hole, climbing out is only the beginning. It's and agenda to work toward, not just tinkering with the SOS!!

I'm don't think most of us are under the illusion that FREE STUFF is going to rise like a Phoenix if Bernie is elected. The mere fact that he's had to fight against an entrenched ESTABLISHMENT of so must that's been wrong and is still standing should tell millions of people WE ARE FED UP!

YES, the REVOLUTION is BEGINNING! The next step is to HELP MAKE it go forward!

The "free stuff" meme isn't selling very well. We're NOT STUPID!

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Response to ChiciB1 (Reply #115)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:49 PM

124. This asking for 'free stuff' IS REPUBLICAN BOILER PLATE! FUCK THAT!

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #124)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:14 PM

125. Unfortunately, This Is The Message Too Many Hillary Supporters

don't seem to understand. Is it that they are new to politics, is it that they just want a woman or some other reason? Here at DU there is a plethora of information that they can tap into to make a real comparison. I haven't been able to figure it out. I don't fight with them when they reply to any of my comments. I'm not here to fight or argue. I sincerely believe she's not what this country needs now because IT IS in fact more of the same, and this country CAN NOT keep ignoring "we the people!"

I have stated that I will vote for her because of what the alternative is, but I sometimes wonder if she really wants the vote of people like me. I don't respect her, I don't trust her and I WILL leave The Democratic Party if she's who we get. It's blows my mind that there is CLEAR evidence that she lies outright and STILL they won't see.

Our Democratic Party and THE POWER BROKERS in this country do not want any change and it's quite apparent what they're doing to us. So, to keep accepting this and supporting all those who have helped create this mess is strange to me.

Name recognition has kept people voting against their own best interests and I can only HOPE they will WAKE UP! The cards have been stacked against Bernie since day one, and WE now have someone who wants to BEGIN to lead us down a different road. It's really not hard to see or understand this.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:24 PM

9. You know, sometimes the best thing is to push on in a real direction, rather than sit still and

wait for crumbs. Create an expectation for more, rather than less. Get people thinking, "Why isn't this possible? Why can't we do this?" I'm pretty realistic and pragmatic, but I like people who push forward beyond the current thinking.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:30 PM

12. Obama pushed and hit a roadblock in the Republican congress

Many people here cursed at him and called him names. Obama did accomplish some great things, but for many it wasn't enough.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:47 PM

20. No candidate will get everything on a wish list or campaign promise roster.

No one will ever go as far as he or she wants--D or R. But I do pay attention to what someone WANTS to do, and WHY--whether it has a chance of passing Congress or not. That tells me what's in a candidate's heart and shows his or her vision for the future of the country. Why limit your agenda and vision to what you think Congress or politics will "allow"? That's an ever-narrowing feedback loop, reinforced with every "you won't get it, so don't even ask" election cycle full of cynicism and lowered expectations.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #20)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:19 PM

29. .

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #20)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:56 PM

43. +2

I'm well used to cynicism and lowered expectations, myself, but I've gotten rather tired of it.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:37 PM

39. Let's see, Obama took single payer off the table

 

at the very beginning. The Republican Congress wasn't the roadblock there.

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #39)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:57 PM

45. There are several things he could have pushed harder on, that being one of them.

I've always liked the guy on a personal level, but I hate it when he's so damn timid (or acts that way at least).

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Response to nomorenomore08 (Reply #45)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:33 PM

63. I think perhaps the problem is that he

 

completely and sincerely believes that other people are genuinely good, and he keeps on expecting them to behave as good people, and somehow hasn't quite figured out how genuinely evil some of them are.

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #63)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:39 AM

97. That, and his generally middle-of-the-road political tendencies. Likely it's a little of both. n/t

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #39)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 11:32 PM

91. I believe they were

In the initial stages of planning, after talking with the Republicans, Obama walked over to the Democrats and said single payer was off the table because the Republicans would not support it. If Obama wanted health care at all, he had to develop something that health insurers wanted to go along with, not something that would put them out of business. After all, some of those health insurance companies pay huge funds to politicians' electoral races, and they wanted protection in exchange.

Sam

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #39)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:26 PM

130. In fact, Obama had Majorities in both the House and Senate,

and a filibuster proof majority in the Senate for almost a month.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:22 PM

54. He didn't have a Republican congress for ACA

We had a Democratic majority. Quit trying to rewrite history.

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Response to BuelahWitch (Reply #54)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:37 PM

65. For about 2 months

Al Franken was not seated for a few months. Than Ted Kennedy died and we got a republican in his place. Plus Joe Lieberman was siding with the republicans. Obama had a short window to get anything done, but he was trying to compromise.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #65)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:11 PM

70. Wrong, he had a Dem majority for two years

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Response to KelleyKramer (Reply #70)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:22 PM

72. Thank you! n/t

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Response to KelleyKramer (Reply #70)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:24 PM

75. And there were a few that sided with the republicans

Many taking money from the health insurance, drug and pharmaceutical lobbies.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #75)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:33 PM

79. That didn't matter, so wrong again


He could have lost half a dozen Dem sellouts and still had a majority, so he could have passed what ever he wanted

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Response to KelleyKramer (Reply #70)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 11:25 PM

88. A majority wasn't enough in the Senate when the Repubs filibuster almost everything

And they didn't even have to do a talking filibuster, just say they are filibustering. Repubs got together
the night of the inauguration and decided to oppose everything Obama wanted, even things they like.

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Response to All in it together (Reply #88)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 11:44 PM

93. That is a Third Way/Blue Dog bullshit lie


I'm so sick of this bullshit Blue Dog fake Dem line... 'oh we wanted to, we really really did, but there was just no way because the repubs would filibuster'

That is a lie.

They can pass it using reconciliation, which would require only 50 senators


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Response to KelleyKramer (Reply #93)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:13 PM

129. Thank you...

It's amazing how soon people forget that Reconciliation procedures were used to pass the 2003 Bush tax cuts (with Zell Miller-D and Ben Nelson-D casting the damn 49th and 50th votes and Cheney breaking the tie). Maybe single payer couldn't even get to 50 votes, but a public option could have.

Or how about what economists really wanted at the start of Obama's term? Even Krugman railed about a real stimulus package instead of the watered down version that passed (which contained even more freakin tax cuts). Reconciliation could have been useful there, too. Imagine if the economy had been given a proper stimulus back in 2009. Would the economy have improved enough that a draconian sequester would not have been necessary years later?

The democrats have kept their powder dry for so long, it's now degraded and useless. The crazy party knows this, and continually keeps hammering away at their platform. They have no shame holding meaningless hearings/votes, as long as their message keeps getting put out there. Sooner or later, they know they will slip an amendment through that chips a little more away from the economic pie. All the benefits will go to their wealthy donor base, to the detriment of the public good.

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Response to BuelahWitch (Reply #54)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:15 PM

71. Then don't.

During the Democratic majority, we had useless blue dog dems.

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Response to Karma13612 (Reply #71)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:23 PM

73. They still weren't Republicans

And President Obama is supposed to be the head of the party.

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Response to Karma13612 (Reply #71)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:26 PM

76. That is true

Obama was fighting on two fronts.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:28 PM

59. Obama has been a GREAT president and a great transition between the sucky government of George w and

... The next step which is a path forward to limiting the role that corporate money plays in driving policy.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:46 PM

67. Goddamit, will you stop and think for a moment about what you're writing?

 

President Obama failed at a significant number of things due to one critical weakness - he did not understand negotiation.

Negotiation rule #1:

Open negotiations by demanding much more than you expect to obtain.

Negotiation rule #2:

Understand in advance what you want to achieve and what you are willing to settle for.

Negotiation rule #3:

Deviate from your original demands only to the extent that you make at least the same degree of tangible progress toward your desired outcome.

You insult people for supporting a candidate with ambitious aspirations that represent, to a greater extent than any other in recent memory, their values. And the values are Democratic values. I live in Minnesota, and the DFL platform has, for years, contained a call for statewide universal healthcare. Not an oblique reference, but explicitly 'universal.'

Your insults suggest your own lack of comprehension of negotiation, and your scorn is misplaced. Think about the relationship between ambitious goals that are supported by voters in such numbers as to threaten the continued viability of those opposing the goals, and the potential to obtain outcomes which are not quite the stated goals, but nonetheless highly desirable.

The Republican party gets it - it's very good at establishing absurd opening positions in order to frighten its opposition into settling for crap. If you don't see what's going on with Bernie Sanders' ambitious goal-setting, I would suggest you look things over a bit before lashing out with another pointless cheap shot.

If you can demonstrate, with clarity, major flaws in this analysis, by all means do so. I'm open to the prospect that I'm wrong. However, if you are unable to do so, and if you have any sense of honor, you should apologize to anyone you have insulted by indicating they're suckers for supporting these goals.

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Response to RiverNoord (Reply #67)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 11:52 PM

95. Yes!! Spoken like someone

who knows just what the hell they're talking about.

"Can't be done...too much...never pass...the republican congress...blah, blah", we see it all the time, here and everywhere else. Yours is the clearest, most concise, common-sense rebuttal of these arguments I've seen yet.

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Response to RiverNoord (Reply #67)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:18 AM

98. Thank you!

I love those 3 rules. Brilliant. Thanks....

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Response to RiverNoord (Reply #67)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:37 AM

109. Excellent post!

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Response to RiverNoord (Reply #67)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:46 AM

112. You should make this an OP.

from a former South Minneapolitan.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 11:22 PM

87. The President's miscalculation was the belief that the GOPukes were interested

in governing. What they were interested in doing, as it happened (and as many pointed out) was insuring that he would be a one-term president.

The difference between the Obama Presidency and a Sanders Presidency is that Sanders would be fighting the Establishment from Day One, unremittingly, and pushing everything forward as hard as was possible. The only way Sanders can get into the White House is with a massive outpouring of voters but if he does, well then, he'll have a massive number of supporters relying on the Internet rather than the MSM to get his message out.

After that, as I've said before, given the numbers and the money it should be possible to primary or recall anyone who needs it. Kick a couple of Congress critters out of office and the number of survivors who will sign on will be YUGE!

Now THAT would be really progressive.



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Response to itsrobert (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:07 AM

123. He pushed in the wrong direction on a lot of issues like strengthening the NSA/CIA Security State,

 

supporting the TPP, brushing off the horrors of torture, rejecting single payer. He pushed the wrong way on clamping down on medical marijuana use and ignoring the crimes of Wall Street. He pushed the wrong way on killing innocent people with drones.

How convenient for the Conservative Democrats to be able to blame their agendas on the Republicons.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 11:37 PM

92. Yet again, I wish I could Rec posts

"Why isn't this possible? Why can't we do this?"

The most powerful and dangerous words in any social environment. They expand minds, they create solutions, and they free us from previous assumptions.

Awesome!

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Response to Hydra (Reply #92)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 11:45 PM

94. Thank you!

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:31 PM

13. I bet most would rather

go down trying than on their knees begging for the overlords such as corporations, MIC and Wall Street to show some mercy......

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:51 PM

24. "Free" Health Care, take the amount we spend on Health Care and devide by 307,000,000 the result is

TWICE what any single payer country spends per captia. And we don't actually cover 47,000,000 of our citizens.

Those countries other countries have a much lower cost for medicine, medical education, and I don't know what they do for malpractice insurance, but it is much less of an issue because of the robust safety net.

Also when the income is redistributed to the bottom with every transaction, income tax receipts go up AND deficits go down.
The shibboleth "Redistribution has never worked" is a Calvinist myth. The finances of a country are not the same as a household but Austerity has never has worked within a household when it involves saving money by not investing in future earning capacity. Saving money by not planting the fields, or getting an education is pennywise and pound foolish, and even more so for a country.

Of course, I get you. When one has been a farmer as I have been it is hard to seen those who don't work and appear healthy as customers rather than lazy louts, but the fact is that they are, and social democratic states such as Denmark, Canada and Germany and Sweden (before their immigration troubles) have higher labor participation rates probably they have healthier citizens by far than we do. So given the social support to get an education and work in those countries most natives and assimilated immigrants do.

Also Land Grant Universities with free tuition was Lincoln's idea.

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Response to truehawk2 (Reply #24)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:30 PM

34. Welcome aboard. Thanks for laying this out so well.

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Response to truehawk2 (Reply #24)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:33 PM

62. Beautifully said, truehawk2. Nice to see you here.

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Response to truehawk2 (Reply #24)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:33 PM

64. +1000

and welcome.

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Response to truehawk2 (Reply #24)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:39 PM

80. Excellent Post

 

This is why we need to push for single payer because it is morally bankrupt when JP Morgan and Chase bank, and war companies like Lockheed Martin get more subsidies and financial aid than 90% of American citizens on health care.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:30 PM

35. Romney asked the exact same question

 

Right before he got his Republican ass kicked.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:35 PM

36. Bernie has said this cannot be done over night. It is going to take time and all of us to push.

 

That's what the "revolution" is all about. We need to get involved.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:46 PM

41. We aren't expecting Bernie to "give" us anything.

 

We are going to join him in fighting for all of those things.

Nobody has ever expected unicorns out of this.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:57 PM

44. LOL!

 

so the status quo is perfect for you?

Bernie's promises WILL fall short if the revolution only gets him the Oval Office. Shit - have you LISTENED to his speeches? He SAYS THAT flat out. It's NOT HIM - IT'S WE. I suggest you get a friggin' clue.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:08 PM

48. It's really tragic when all you have to believe in is YOUR OWN TIRED PR.

NO ONE WANTS FREE STUFF. What we do want is a level and fair playing field. We want hope for the next generation and generations to come. We want EVERYONE TO SHARE in prosperity... after all, we are all expected to share in sacrifice, and some more than others.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:16 PM

52. Besides, he has been saying from the beginning that he cannot do anything by himself, it's

up to us to stand behind him and pressure Congress to do what we want. We want Representative Democracy back, currently the politicians only represent Donors.

This is what Hillary wouldn't do if she could. She is the BEST politician out there using the current method of rounding up corporate and wealthy donors. She knows them all personally. Her timing is bad because we have had enough!

Trump's popularity is partially due to the anti-establishment sentiment that has been growing accross the spectrum. He has used that frustration to his advantage to destroy the Republican Establishment candidates.

None of the stuff is "free" and Bernie has explained how he will come up with the money. An audit of the Penagon would pay for most of Bernie's programs! We have been getting hugely ripped off in the military's budget because neither Party had a desire to audit the Pentagon. Their Donors sure didn't want it to happen.

It's time we got rid of the influence peddling and took an honest assessment at where we are, where to we want to be, and how we will do it. With big business finally paying their fair share of taxes, we should be in a great position to implement some programs beneficial to most Americans instead of just the Donor class.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:24 PM

57. Your favorite deal is mischaracterizing Bernie and what he said.

He said, many many times, that it will take a political revolution to accomplish these things. We all know that. His supporters know it.

So no hangover, no used car salesman bullshit.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:32 PM

61. Thanks Hillary

 

We already know that you can't do it, or won't do it, so we decided to vote for someone who will try.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:38 PM

66. FREE healthcare? Not expecting or asking for it! Hell, I'd happily pay the SAME premiums into


Medicare as a buy-in rate -- which are nearly $1400 a month for 2 people. ANYTHING so that medical insurance corporations are no longer involved in any way with me and mine.

I get the feeling that Hillary supporters have no idea how expensive the ACA is for middle-agers. Most of our close friends in their 50s and early 60s are paying around $1500 to $2000 a month for medical insurance. That means they are not putting anything toward savings, most have downsized out of their homes into apartments, and we have a generation that will be destitute in their retirement - no savings, no permanent homes.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:27 PM

77. A cynical attitude for sure. We can do it if there is the will.U expect to be charged for air

 

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:49 PM

81. What a very Rupublican meme.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 10:48 PM

86. I just want them to try...

 

stop telling me it's impossible and not even try. I will be ecstatic to see my politicians trying to get these things done. Then I know they're pushing for it.

To paraphrase Henry Ford...whether you believe you can or you believe you cannot....you are correct.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 11:29 PM

90. you certainly should get an A for effort.

For content... Not so much.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:29 AM

99. I don't expect magic from him.

 

I do expect a president of full integrity who places people above corporations and fights for our interests first and foremost.

Selling out makes for shitty leaders.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:37 AM

104. What's it like to be so full of contempt? Does it hurt?

 

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Response to CobaltBlue (Reply #111)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:02 AM

121. And thanks him for letting us know he isn't for free college. nm

 

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:06 AM

114. Bernie has surpassed all expectations already.

We're not idiots. We know this is just the beginning, but we finally have a leader who isn't a sell-out like someone else I could mention.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:47 AM

117. American's deserve candidates who at least try for this.

We are done with the corporate drones.

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:00 AM

120. How many will be upset when Clinton doubles the defense budget and cuts the min wage?

 

How many will be upset when she allows the Republicons to kill the ACA? How many will be upset that poverty continues to grow along with Goldman-Sachs' profits. Certainly not her fans

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Response to itsrobert (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:42 PM

132. It would not be giving, it would be balancing

reforming, employing, and improving, and coincidentally, that is precisely what America requires right now.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:18 PM

4. Believe it or not CNN

actually played a clip showing that! LOVE IT.



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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:19 PM

6. "We don't need no"? Damn Sanders fans... young and underedumacated. nt

 

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:11 PM

28. Isn't it the truth?

 

Kids these days.

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:48 PM

42. Or they could be Pink Floyd fans:

 

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:58 PM

46. I feel the more important question, which is rarely asked is,

"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"óFlorence, S.C., Jan. 11, 2000

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:22 PM

7. Thank You For Sharing This Good News

eom

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:22 PM

8. Outstanding!

Kick and Rec

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:28 PM

11. Maybe we should post the site every other post--here it is

bernie2016tv

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:34 PM

14. Turn up the Bern!!

 

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:36 PM

15. It's so awesome

 

To see so many young people taking an active interest in the future of our country. They definitely restored quite a bit of my lost faith in humanity and millennials.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:36 PM

16. It should be "Bernie Sander we have your back! You don't need a SuperPac!" nt

 

edited for spelling

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Response to Snotcicles (Reply #16)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:51 PM

22. Agree.

Go Bernie!

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:37 PM

17. That is Great! Hope it takes off! nt

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:38 PM

18. It was Wonderful to See That!

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:44 PM

19. We are still talking about a) the event, and b) the revolution!

So looking forward to tonight. Too bad its a town hall though. Bernie needs to go one-on-one with Hillary now.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:50 PM

21. Oh good, phew.

 

I thought this was gonna say that trump supporters were crashing Bernie rallies.

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Response to liberalnarb (Reply #21)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:23 PM

74. They will never produce the numbers and enthusiasm you just saw in Chicago.

 

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 06:51 PM

23. Government is essentially a club store.

Why aren't government programs framed like this? Just like you purchase membership to a Costco, citizens get together and purchase a product or service at a reduced group rate. This works great for national and local security, fire protection, mail delivery, etc. There's no reason it can't work for health, education, internet access, etc.

It's not FREE STUFF! It's a pre-pay program that provides goods and services at group rate, reduced prices. How we came to the notion that unless there's a middle man making obscene profits in the private sector it's unAmerican is beyond me.

A public option for anything the public wants should never be an issue.

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Response to ZX86 (Reply #23)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:02 PM

25. Yes, EXACTLY. This is the way civilization is supposed to work.

And right now we need all kinds of R&D to invent the battery and power technologies to replace fossil fuels, and Agricultural research develop resilient strains of the native plants (now crowded out) that allowed great swaths of the west that are now sage brush to retain enough soil moisture to grow trees.

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Response to ZX86 (Reply #23)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:25 PM

33. Yes.

Excellent way of explaining it.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:06 PM

26. Beautiful..............................say it loud and clear..................we can hear you.......

"Bernie Sanders has our back! We don't need no SuperPac!"

"Bernie Sanders has our back! We don't need no SuperPac!"

"Bernie Sanders has our back! We don't need no SuperPac!"

"Bernie Sanders has our back! We don't need no SuperPac!"

"Bernie Sanders has our back! We don't need no SuperPac!"





Honk----------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016



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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:08 PM

27. Go Bernie, and fuck the corruption. n/t

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:19 PM

30. Watching Sanders on CNN now.

 

He is always honest, straight forward, and I'm glad he is repeating his message so all will know what he stands for.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:19 PM

31. I heard that! Proud Buckeye! nt

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 07:35 PM

37. Maybe there is hope for this country.

 

Bernie has lit a fire. I hope it continues to burn and becomes an inferno, burning down the rotten tree, and allowing a stronger and more beautiful tree to grow.

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Response to tabasco (Reply #37)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:00 PM

47. There IS hope - it's us

 

Bernie's only the match head. There's so much "fuel" just waiting to realize itself!

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:12 PM

50. I swear this is the truth!

 

We watched Bernie. There are storms around this area right now. As soon as Clinton came on, we heard thunder and a minute or two later, our TV messed up! (We have Dish) I just thought it funny and wonderful timing as well.


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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:15 PM

51. That's an awesome chant! Go Bernie!

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 08:27 PM

58. K&R! This post has hundreds of recommendations!

"Bernie Sanders has our back! We don't need no SuperPac!"

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:04 PM

69. Hell yeah!

Great chant. I'm hearing a super cool 4/4 drum cadence in my head right now to go along with it -- best played on plastic paint buckets, New Orleans style.

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Response to klook (Reply #69)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:32 AM

102. x 1000000

 

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 10:01 PM

82. Well, he may not "need" one...but he has a few.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/02/11/sanderss-claim-that-he-does-not-have-a-super-pac/

In the age of dark money and unlimited fundraising opportunities via super PACs, itís fair for Sanders to make the distinction that he, unlike Clinton and most of the Republican candidates, is not affiliated with the super PAC. Sanders does not have a sanctioned super PAC that acts as an extension of his campaign and is affiliated with wealthy donor networks or corporate industries, in the way that other presidential candidates do.

But there have been three unaffiliated super PACs supporting Sanders. One of them has spent $1.2 million campaigning for the candidate so far, accounting for the majority of outside group spending for Sanders so far. Meanwhile, 14 groups total spent $1.7 million campaigning for Clinton so far.

Sanders has not exploited the Supreme Courtís Citizens United decision, but is still reaping its benefits. Thereís not much Sanders could do to stop outside groups, but he hasnít actively denounced their help, either. He would be much more precise if he said: ďI do not have a super PAC allied with me.Ē

As currently framed, however, Sandersís statement does not quite qualify for a Geppetto Checkmark. We would give half a Pinocchio if we could, but we do not use half-Pinocchios. So Sanders earns One Pinocchio.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 10:05 PM

83. kick

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 10:31 PM

85. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, BernieforPres2016.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 11:27 PM

89. We chanted that at the Feel the Bern Rose Parade March!

But in the other order.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:06 AM

96. Let's work real hard to get them all out to the polls.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:30 AM

100. Excepting of course AmericanCrossroads.org (Rove's SuperPAC) and Freedom Partners (Kochs'). Links:

Koch brothers' SuperPac:



Rove's SuperPac:

Conservative SuperPAC's Ads Take Aim At Hillary Clinton

The group ran ads branding Bernie Sanders as the only true progressive in the race.

http://www.npr.org/2016/02/26/468216156/conservative-superpacs-ads-take-aim-at-hillary-clinton

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Response to ucrdem (Reply #100)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:46 PM

133. This isn't breaking news: they always do this

So people like YOU will believe it means something. Bernie's campaign is not running the ads.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:31 AM

101. And this is just the beginning

Bernie has struck the perfect note with the dying middle class and the suffering lower class.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:51 AM

113. How can it be

a revolution, when only Sanders supporters know about it. Sanders does not have a diverse coalition.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:36 AM

116. Then why is Bernie behind in delegates?

Trump's supporters could say the same thing, and with more reason.

Magical "revolutions" don't occur. We have to get out and vote.

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Response to treestar (Reply #116)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:51 PM

126. Because Hillary was busy trying to win the states she will never win in the general. Yay... ooops!

 

Not to mention the name recognition, media exposure and DLC "fixing" of the debate schedule and otehr things Hillary has been given compared to Bernie. A better question is with all that, why is Hillary doing as shitty as she is and how does that bode for the general if she is the nominee??

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Response to IHateTheGOP (Reply #118)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:02 AM

122. If we end up with GOP control

It will be because you and others like you made Hillary Clinton the Democratic candidate. It will not be on Bernie Sanders, who will not run 3rd party as Ralph Nader did.

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Response to IHateTheGOP (Reply #118)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:57 PM

127. No, the Democrats accomplished that all on their own, and they've done jack shit about since then!

 

Last edited Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:58 AM - Edit history (1)

Gore, the Mannequin, could not even win his home state of Tennessee. Then couple that with the GOP rigging the elections in various states and various ways, including Florida, and there we were. What have the Dems done about the voting disenfranchisement schemes the GOP keeps on pushing every year? Jack, nada. The DLC 3rd way assholes and clowns would rather be bit players on top of the shit hill, partly of their own making, than actually addressing the things that cause the Democrats to loose so many votes before the game has even begun lest they, Republican-lite wannna-be's, all be thrown out on their worthless asses as well!!

Perhaps you should try to educate yourself a bit more.

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Response to IHateTheGOP (Reply #118)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:00 PM

128. And we'll spend the next 8 years blaming Hillary

that is until Trump privatizes the internet.

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