Why Are Sanders Supporters So Rude?

[Billsmile]

Answer: We’re not rude. This is a myth propagated by people who don’t like Bernie Sanders and want to sabotage his campaign.

Question: Then how come I see Bernie Sanders’ supporters, those Bernie Bros, saying hateful things about Hillary Clinton on the internet?

https://medium.com/@pattyjane/why-are-bernie-sanders-supporters-so-rude-dcfda89f4f0b#.kehv8u14t

[Trust Buster]

1. I don't know, ask Elizabeth Warren.

.

[NurseJackie]

3. +1

[Bluenorthwest]

39. Got a quote from her? Or are you just using her as a hand puppet of agenda?

nt

[Raster]

56. Hand puppet agenda, of course!

What else would/could be offered in factual context to support such an insinuation?

Answer: NOTHING!

[Cobalt Violet]

2. Is that you donald?

[randome]

4. It's OWS all over again.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[My Good Babushka]

5. I think it has been very rude of center right democrats

to leave out labor and the concerns of the working poor for so very long. To join republicans in tax cuts with no wage growth, to join republicans in their hawkish designs for more war, and to take money from payday lenders and others who make a hard life even harder for workers on the lower end of the economic ladder. Life expectancy is actually falling for lower income working people, as we are being worked and squeezed and impoverished to death, so I think a certain amount of shaking the centrists by the collar is in order. I think centrists don't even understand how angry it makes people when they are told that they shouldn't be angry about these things.

[ejbr]

16. shhhhh....

If many Trump supporters are angry bigots, then there must be a simple reason why many of us no longer give a fuck. Don't complicate things with facts.

[Oilwellian]

34. Well said

[anigbrowl]

59. As usual, attacking your allies instead of your enemies

Centrists live in reality instead of ideology and have some grasp of economics and political factors, like the fact that massive gerrymandering is going to make it very difficult to wrest control of Congress form the GOP this cycle, and that radical left-wing policies have some major deficiencies just as radical right-wing policies do. I'm center-left because I come from a country that's much more socialist than the US and I know about the downsides as well as the upsides, even as I advocate for the US to be a bit more socialist than it is.

Many Bernie fans (and socialists in general) are rude to the point that they turn people away instead of successfully communicating why a somewhat more socialist society would be a good thing. They are their own worst enemies, like most fundamentalists.

[My Good Babushka]

70. People are dying from inequality

many working class people may not see the next election.
People are dying abroad because of right-wing and centrist abetted military crusades, they don't have time for incrementalism, either.
13 million people in the U.S. who may be displaced from environmental disruption due to global warming don't need a candidate who sells fracking around the world.
and I am free to vote for whomever I think best represents my interests.

[anigbrowl]

72. Much as I expected - a guilt trip

You think I don't know people are dying of inequality? The problem I have with the ideological left is that many of their policy proposals are half-baked and they are willfully blind to examples of where or why some of their policy prescriptions simply do not work. I feel the same way about the hard left as I do about religious prosletyzers who deny science. Both groups sincerely care about the ills of the world and want to do good, but they don't want to learn anything outside of what they already believe.

[My Good Babushka]

74. You may feel people are rude about their preferences for leadership

or you may feel guilty, but the election is not about your feelings.
You are much as I expected, A narcissistic Hillary supporter putting your feelings ahead of people who are voting for their lives. Speaking of denying science, what has a worse environmental record than war? Yet Hillary has all but promised to expand the theater of war to Iran. There is a growing consensus that no amount of fracking is safe, but in my state, people have to live with poison water, and children with respiratory distress due to methane flaring, and your candidate would like more of this. I am voting for the only scientifically literate candidate I have.

[TM99]

78. Yada yada yada.

Yes, you special 'centrists'. Y'all are soooo much smarter than us. Your grasp of economics and political factors is stupendous.

Oh, give us a fucking break.

[Hotler]

6. ........

Have you been to the Hillary Group!

[hobbit709]

8. Or worse yet, that other site.

[nadinbrzezinski]

51. Which one?

There are two that I am aware off

[hobbit709]

66. The HRC supporters one.

[nadinbrzezinski]

67. Both are

[DeeDeeNY]

32. You mean remarks like ...

"The more I learn about Bernie the more I despise him!" I haven't gone back since reading that.

[Nonhlanhla]

38. While I do not share that sentiment

that statement is mild compared to what is said about Hillary here on DU every day.

[stevenleser]

7. K&R, but beware that as 80% of DU is for Bernie, this kind of truth is not well received here

Make sure you have your flak jacket on.

[ibegurpard]

11. #whichstevenleser?

[stevenleser]

43. #ChangingTheSubjectDoesn'tHelp nt

[artislife]

69. #laughingoutloud

[Cobalt Violet]

71. haha love it!

[Logical]

12. Lol, nice try steve! Nt

[Matt_in_STL]

33. I love that you put as much into this as you did for your Fox News appearances

The article is completely pro-Bernie and you answered based on the headline. Quite the pundit!

[stevenleser]

44. See my #43 nt

[Matt_in_STL]

48. Changing what subject? I am really starting to wonder about you.

You tried to place a negative spin on a positive Bernie article, showing you obviously didn't read it or didn't understand it. Reading comprehension must not be a strength for you.

[Bluenorthwest]

40. Read it first steve then check the year and that way you will know which template to use.

As it is, thanks for agreeing with this pro Bernie article. Are you going to switch again?

[stevenleser]

45. See my #43 nt

[redstateblues]

41. closer to 90% these days

[jeff47]

50. You know, most journalists would bother to read the short article before commenting.

That way they wouldn't look like they've been utterly mislead by the headline.

[farleftlib]

58. Most 'journalists' would indeed

[stevenleser]

79. Who cares? The headline is still correct. All the dancing those responding to me are doing dont

change that.

[Major Hogwash]

73. Maybe that's because some of us didn't change parties between candidates.

After supporting Obama over Hillary, we're now supporting Bernie over Hillary.
At least we're consistent!!!

[stevenleser]

80. See my #43 and my #79 nt

[coyote]

9. Ahhhh...those elusive Bernie Bros

You never know where they will pop up next.

[GoneFishin]

10. Yep. Damn Bernie Bro ninjas. They're everywhere. They're nowhere. Damn them.

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[Zorra]

25. We call 'em jackalopes west of the rockies. nt

[betsuni]

13. This will be alerted on because thin flounder skin.

Yet comments like that the majority of rude people are "over-the-top and willfully obtuse and ignorant people in the HRC camp" and that "80% of Hillary supporters are paid shills" -- hey, no problem!

[Canadian Interloper]

14. I've wondered that myself,,,

having already seen rather nasty attacks against Sec. Clinton on this very website.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

18. Were any of those 'rather nasty attacks' untrue?

What I often see are Bernie supporters pointing out things Clinton has actually said or done, her patterns of supporting policies that hurt most Americans. To me, the things she's done are the 'nasty' things, and pointing them out is simply along the lines of making public photos of torture and abuse at Abu Ghraib. The photos are not the problem, the torture and abuse are.

[UglyGreed]

35. There is no reason to

make things up, Hillary's own actions are the problem. Reminds me of when I confront my 14 year old son for doing something wrong he shifts the blame on to others or claims I'm the one who is being unreasonable.......

[liberal_at_heart]

19. because you're on the internet. There are nasty things said on every single website on the internet.

There are nasty things said by Hillary supporters about Bernie and about his supporters on this website too. I just put them on ignore.

[ibegurpard]

21. "Canadian Interloper"?

Please enjoy your single-payer healthcare and leave our elections to us.

[UglyGreed]

36. Must be nice

I wish I could go and have the tests done for my ongoing headaches which began four years ago.......

[Sunlei]

23. Some in the USA have evolved into a throw-away society. Watch out Canada, google says...

"how to move to Canada" is a top ranked search these days.

[ladjf]

15. That's the old "Do you still beat your wife"? The question makes the oblique assertion

that you have either in the past or currently beaten your wife.

In other words, your question begs certain condition that may or may not be true.

[Le Taz Hot]

17. Poor Hill People

they get their fee fees hurt so easily. But she's tough, damn it! Oh yeah, and vagina. 'Cause Hillary and her supporters have never said anything bad at all about Sanders or their supporters.

And another <flush>

[Alfresco]

20. Most rude people have deep insecurities. tRump fits that profile also.

[Sunlei]

22. You mean on the internet? people get all twitchy & anxious because of face lock to instant media.

Syndrome with no cure, send more tweets and you'll feel better in the morning.

[CTyankee]

26. Paul Krugman said the same thing today in the NYT about Bernie supporters...

As a Bernie supporter I am dismayed and would certainly not be rude to HRC supporters. My husband is a dedicated HRC fan and will be voting for her in our primary. I will vote for Bernie. We're good.

[Sunlei]

29. perhaps twitter should put in the old messageboard spam limiters :)

[Bluenorthwest]

42. Paul Krugma said the same thing in 08 about Obama supporters. It's a template. Here's Paul in NYT:

Hate Springs Eternal
Paul Krugman FEB. 11, 2008

" I won’t try for fake evenhandedness here: most of the venom I see is coming from supporters of Mr. Obama, who want their hero or nobody. I’m not the first to point out that the Obama campaign seems dangerously close to becoming a cult of personality. We’ve already had that from the Bush administration — remember Operation Flight Suit? We really don’t want to go there again.

What’s particularly saddening is the way many Obama supporters seem happy with the application of “Clinton rules” — the term a number of observers use for the way pundits and some news organizations treat any action or statement by the Clintons, no matter how innocuous, as proof of evil intent."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/11/opinion/11krugman.html?_r=1

Joan Walsh did lots of this material about Obama supporters, she's also rewording things a bit and using her 08 anti Obama stuff against Bernie. It's very sad to see the lack of originality as well as the obvious affectations of their outrage aimed each cycle at a new set of supporters they want to smear.
Same smears, different years.

[EndElectoral]

24. Maybe because "They're mad as hell and they're not going to take it anymore."

[Sunlei]

30. shut off the device and the madness is cured. It will pass with a good nap.

[mac56]

27. ---

[daleanime]

28. Question: Is what they say truthful?

Then maybe the question should be why do Hillary supporters view the truth as an attack?

[Sunlei]

31. hey this is the internets, you never know when an Orc will leap-out and slay you.

[JustAnotherGen]

37. This has to stop

Nothing is being gained by the sanders and hrc reporters eating each other up.

You guys are on the same team as those of us whose hearts belong to Martin O'Malley.

Understand - the only real threat is from Trump/Cruz and their supporters. I'm adding Cruz and his supporters because they will take us to a Christian Shariah Country.

[farleftlib]

46. LOL. The meme du jour. Next up "Loyalty Oaths" to HRH.

Good luck with that!

[Betty Karlson]

47. WE say hateful things about Clinton?

Pointing out her ties to Wall Street is hateful?

Pointing out her vote for the Ira War is hateful?

Pointing out her shifty position on the TPP is hateful?


----

By contrast, Clinton and her surrgates have oly nice and true things to say about us, right? Like that we are racist, sexist, complacent millennials, BernieBros and sluts sleeping with the BernieBros, for whom a special place in Hell has been reserved. Oh yes, praise Nancy too!

The hypocrisy is baffling.

[jeff47]

49. Tip: Change the @ in the URL to %40 to make it clickable.

https://medium.com/%40pattyjane/why-are-bernie-sanders-supporters-so-rude-dcfda89f4f0b#.kehv8u14t

[retrowire]

52. That's actually a really good article. The link is somewhat broken though.

ya gotta copy and paste it in your address bar to read it.

[highprincipleswork]

53. Possibly because the policies that she and Third Way Democrats support hurt so many.

And frankly, that more than pisses me off. It makes me wonder sometimes why we even have a Democratic Party.

This article perhaps sums up best the honest dissatisfaction.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511487337

[Vattel]

54. You should quote a little of the answer to the question.

Some posters think you are joining in the lame attempt to portray Bernie's supporters as a bunch of meanies.

[Arugula Latte]

55. ...

[pinebox]

57. These aren't Bernie supporters

These are HILLARY SUPPORTERS!
Sorry but you can't spin this.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

60. Can't spin this either... "did not know jews hated us blacks so much."

Quote# 117360

I cannot stand him. His fans are racists who run around calling blacks racist and wonder why we hate him and them. I don't even LIKE Hillary but I will vote for her just so his fans can feel the sne BERN that they have been passing out.

Look at the racist comments here. I did not know jews hated us blacks so much. Good to know. I will return it in kind. There are so few of them It's a wonder they have the gall to think about being racist against blacks.

Bravenak, Frontpage Mag 6 Comments [3/11/2016 4:32:30 AM]
Fundie Index: 3

WTF?! || meh

http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=117360

So much toxicity out there.

[pinebox]

61. Stupid people playing stupid games to win stupid prizes

[WorseBeforeBetter]

63. Yep. Stupidity. Hate. Personal issues.

It's all out there. And probably why I pretty much stick to DU. It's down-right civilized compared to so many other sites. Especially when certain members are on time-out because they can't control themselves.

[pinebox]

64. I actually find twitter a lot better :)

[WorseBeforeBetter]

65. Twitter gets me too riled up.

[JFKDem62]

62. Both Hillary and Bernie people are being rude, but at least it is not vile violent hatred like GOP.

Say what you will about both the Hillary and Bernie supporters, none of them
are advocating injury, death, violence, racist hatred.

[Maedhros]

68. Why is Billsmile on so many ignore lists?

/bye.

[lumberjack_jeff]

75. My wife snores. Do I tell her? Truth looks rude sometimes. n/t

[arcane1]

76. Saying stupid shit like "Bernie Bros" isn't exactly polite.

Why can't Clinton supporters be honest?

[Fawke Em]

77. I dunno. Why are Hillary supporters so condescending?

[saltpoint]

81. I think there are other questions

before the electorate that require more urgent attention.

Among them:

Why was Jeb Bush living such an insular life that he believed U.S. Americans loved his brother's administration generally and the Iraq invasion particularly? Did Dubya keep us "safe" or did he keep us stupid?

Do enough U.S. voters supporting Donald Trump understand that when progressives call Trump a 'fascist' they are referring to a political operating philosophy based significantly in brutality and repression? And are they cool with that?

Why isn't Rick Snyder in jail?

Why isn't Ted Cruz in a locked psychiatric ward in a very remote location, under heavy sedation and in four-point restraints?

Is it not of more concern to U.S. establishmentarian politicians that the sea level is on the rise and intellectual acuity is on the decline?

Is Vince Foster actually still alive, kept prisoner in a basement in rural Arkansas?

Wait. Scratch that last question.

Which public servants and/or other citizens might be impaneled to devise a better primary election system for presidential cycles?

After the world witnesses this Republican primary season, will other nations still want to hang out with us on weekends?

How could the Republican Party get more Jon Huntsmans and fewer RubiosCruzesTrumpsCarsonsMcConnellsPencesSnydersPalinsetc (or is it far too late for that to be wished for, given the scorched-earth polarity of the current GOP)?