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pinebox

(5,761 posts)
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:39 PM Mar 2016

Debbie Wassermann Schultz at it again!

This time against her opponent Tim Canova.
She needs to go. NOW.
I'm sick of her & her political bullshit and cronyism.

I messaged Tim letting him know I cross posted here on DU. He's a nice and genuine guy and I hope he chimes in here. It would be most excellent to have him here on DU!





This is unfair and undemocratic
https://goo.gl/6OeSFB
Last week, I called the Florida Democratic Party to request access to the voter file database and software known as VAN that is routinely used by Democratic candidates across the country.

I was told that our campaign would be denied access to this database because I am running against an incumbent Democrat, Debbie Wasserman Schultz. I was also told that any Democratic candidate running against an incumbent Democrat would be denied access — even a lifelong progressive challenging an out-of-touch incumbent.

This is unfair and undemocratic. My opponent already has untold advantages against an insurgent progressive campaign like ours. We are refusing to take corporate money, while she has taken millions of dollars from Wall Street bankers, payday lenders, private prison companies, and other corporate special interests. How much more of an advantage does Wasserman Schultz need to silence the voices of grassroots voters in our district?

This is nothing less than an entrenched establishment throwing up roadblocks against our political revolution. We’ve seen my opponent do this against Bernie’s presidential campaign and other progressive challengers. As head of the DNC, Wasserman Schultz has pushed strategies that suppress voter turnout, all to protect incumbents and establishment politicians. She has routinely defended the party’s use of Superdelegates to block the will of Democratic voters in state after state.
All of this has made our party weaker and more vulnerable against Republicans in general elections, which is so painfully obvious with the Democratic Party’s losses in the midterm elections in the past six years — 13 Senate seats and 69 House seats, the biggest loss of congressional Democrats in modern political history.

Bernie Sanders had to go so far as to sue Wasserman Schultz’s DNC in December to regain access to his own party’s voter database. As we continue to compile alternative voter databases from other sources, rest assured that we will not allow the establishment to weaken our campaign. We will overcome any obstacles and we will fight back.
In solidarity,
Tim Canova
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Debbie Wassermann Schultz at it again! (Original Post) pinebox Mar 2016 OP
...... daleanime Mar 2016 #1
Zero Integrity Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #48
Zero ... Zilch ... Jopin Klobe Mar 2016 #62
Is it possible.... daleanime Mar 2016 #65
Integrity I.O.U's ? Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #76
That's what Hillary uses. anothergreenbus Mar 2016 #94
Best antidote lsewpershad Mar 2016 #78
yep Vote for TC Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #80
The pressure should be placed on Obama musiclawyer Mar 2016 #104
Doubt he would until after Nov, Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #112
oh yeah, not she would paint him as anti woman and anti semite DonCoquixote Mar 2016 #126
Who would want Plucketeer Mar 2016 #130
Well, that is just as much of an admission as she is likely to make of trying the same stunt with Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #2
Sanders should be compliing a database for his own use and for other progressive candidates. mariawr Mar 2016 #27
Wel yes and no: Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #82
Wonder why????? UglyGreed Mar 2016 #3
Unfair and Undemocratic seems to be DWS motto. jillan Mar 2016 #4
do like that term PatrynXX Mar 2016 #22
Donate to DU for Tim here Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #5
Please, Please, Please give Tim a few bucks! SoapBox Mar 2016 #38
DU for Tim has taken in $170 since this post and mine in GD went up this AM Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #56
Please make this an OP for more exposure. Thanks! Hiraeth Mar 2016 #68
This in GD needs a kick Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #70
done Hiraeth Mar 2016 #75
Just donated $5. IMO it is too bad we can't find some way jwirr Mar 2016 #53
I don't know anyone in Anonymous either. greiner3 Mar 2016 #134
I did know a young man in Anonymous but he is no longer jwirr Mar 2016 #135
Have done that and will do that again! Duval Mar 2016 #66
Thanks Omaha Steve MissDeeds Mar 2016 #99
Sue her Tim! Really getting to like this guy. panader0 Mar 2016 #6
What if the incumbent is doing a shtty job & the challenger is a lifelong loyal Dem? TheDormouse Mar 2016 #7
He's not a "lifelong loyal Dem" Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #9
And so what? pinebox Mar 2016 #11
It's not his turn nxylas Mar 2016 #33
. SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #41
.. TubbersUK Mar 2016 #58
.... JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #84
Exactly! SoapBox Mar 2016 #47
Politicians and other public officials are subject to criticism here regardless of your invitation. JTFrog Mar 2016 #50
My question is about the general policy nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #13
Patrick Murphy has been a Democrat since 2012. Only changed in order to run against djean111 Mar 2016 #23
excellent post. fbc Mar 2016 #36
There ya go. nt SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #44
There were no other Democrats running for that seat in 2012. Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #74
And he is still, IMO - a Republican. djean111 Mar 2016 #83
He has voted with the Democratic Party more than 80% of the time Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #97
Not at first he didn't. And I do believe part of Pelosi's job is to orchestrate votes djean111 Mar 2016 #102
"Not at first he didn't." Can you back that up with any real data? Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #144
Mr. Stubbs, I will do some research, but here is the thing - Murphy turned Democrat for his own djean111 Mar 2016 #148
We are supposed to be the big-tent party. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #59
The Democratic Party IS a Big Tent, bvar22 Mar 2016 #109
I stand corrected. Thanks. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #110
What an ironic thing to say. Some say that having a (D) behind the name is all that matters. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #90
My parrents signed me up when I was born. Ivan Kaputski Mar 2016 #128
Another Johnny-come-lately complaining about the rules of the party he just joined Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #8
Oh please! Go support your payday lender loan candidate. pinebox Mar 2016 #10
Absolutely! marew Mar 2016 #16
Kim Davis was a Dem until just recently. I guess she would get your vote too? arcane1 Mar 2016 #17
Excellent point! marew Mar 2016 #21
"Party Over Principle" is a bankrupt philosophy, but a hard one to change, it seems n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #28
Ab-so-fricking-lutely! SoapBox Mar 2016 #51
They are good Germans coyote Mar 2016 #92
Guess you never considered the ISSUES for a candidate, just the letter, right? djean111 Mar 2016 #29
Exactly! nt TheDormouse Mar 2016 #60
And that matters because? marew Mar 2016 #18
+1000 Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #25
yes, 3rdway infiltrators/traitors to the new deal love the time stamp stupidicus Mar 2016 #26
So, how long?? angrychair Mar 2016 #40
He was an aide to Tsongas back in the 80's Major Nikon Mar 2016 #81
The fact that anyone here is defending DWS given her record Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #117
True, but I suspect DWS would be on the short list for HRC's VP candidates Major Nikon Mar 2016 #120
Oh please barf no Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #122
Well, I'm a lifelong Democrat, SusanCalvin Mar 2016 #49
That is how I feel! Duval Mar 2016 #71
Not surprised that you'd chose PayDay lenders over their victims. Goes along with supporting rhett o rick Mar 2016 #89
Would you like to defend DWS voting to send terminally ill medical marijuana users to prison? Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #116
I've been leaning more towards Hillary, because of right wing smears posted here against her LW1977 Mar 2016 #118
It makes more sense to vote for roody Mar 2016 #137
There are no such fucking rules. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #131
Gonna kick him another Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #12
But she's a "Real Democrat" which means we must cheer her every move, right? arcane1 Mar 2016 #14
Look at the replies above pinebox Mar 2016 #15
AND People Here Are STILL Doing Rah, Rah For Hillary. WAKE THE F--k UP! n/t ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #19
+1! n/t marew Mar 2016 #31
she's probally paying them to do it. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #64
+100 Duval Mar 2016 #72
I think she is a repub. oldandhappy Mar 2016 #20
She is a third-way politician -- same thing (eom) Samantha Mar 2016 #42
If it walks like a duck, swimms like a duck, and quacks like a duck.. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #67
She's despicable. GoneFishin Mar 2016 #24
He seems to be confused. He's blaming the DNC for something that the FL Dem Party is doing. Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #30
Right because people who are new to the party are stupid Freddie? pinebox Mar 2016 #32
He was a legislative aide to Paul Tsongas (D-Mass). ieoeja Mar 2016 #63
He was registered at "No Party Affiliation" until June of last year: Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #79
So are many people noiretextatique Mar 2016 #113
And many people are not qualified to be the Democratic nominee for Congress Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #146
You think DWS is qualified pinebox Mar 2016 #153
The voters in her district seem to think so Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #155
A lot of us left for "No Party Affiliation" in protest a few years ago. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #133
Then perhaps he should be running as an NPA Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #147
You realize that the current FDP Chair worked for ChoicePoint during the 2000 purge, right? Fuddnik Mar 2016 #132
Debbie? You can't just slam the door in their face. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #34
Is that the guy who landed the plane on the Capitol grounds a while back? CorkySt.Clair Mar 2016 #35
No, that's Doug Hughes Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #39
Awwww, is Debbie not getting the admiration you think she deserves? Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #143
If DWS and these policies represent the Democratic party casperthegm Mar 2016 #37
sue floppyboo Mar 2016 #43
And, they wonder why people are fed up with politics-as-usual. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #45
K & R !!! WillyT Mar 2016 #46
Donated a few dollars dana_b Mar 2016 #52
Question for DWS . . . Jack Rabbit Mar 2016 #54
Maybe Alan Grayson can send him his copy. Someone, if not Tim, should ask him to. ancianita Mar 2016 #55
Excellent Suggestion! Scalded Nun Mar 2016 #85
I asked him on one of his Facebook threads, so I hope it gets passed on to him. ancianita Mar 2016 #98
To really get rid of DWS, we must elect both Bernie Sanders and Tim Canova. earthshine Mar 2016 #57
Got to go. From both jobs, and real soon. appalachiablue Mar 2016 #77
And these were the proverbial sacrificial pawns in his chess game. Thanks. nt earthshine Mar 2016 #86
That says it all. marble falls Mar 2016 #149
And there are other Bernie progressives running too! pinebox Mar 2016 #93
Bernie's coattails will be yuuuuuge! earthshine Mar 2016 #96
How does anyone with INTEGRITY still belong to the Democratic Party? pdsimdars Mar 2016 #61
I've dropped my membership and any donation, not even $5, to the DNC until she is gone! Hulk Mar 2016 #69
What can we do? NJCher Mar 2016 #73
He should sue DWS INdemo Mar 2016 #87
I have a feeling that Debbie is typing her resignation letter to President Sanders / FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #88
Surely there is some way to get her out of there. TryLogic Mar 2016 #91
DWS was appointed by President Obama. bvar22 Mar 2016 #111
Donated. DWS is real piece of work. glinda Mar 2016 #95
K&R passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #100
Kicked Blus4u Mar 2016 #101
Donated... Delmette Mar 2016 #103
I only wish this surprised me Ruby the Liberal Mar 2016 #105
Kicked and recommended a bazillion times! Because fuck this shit! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #106
i read here last week obama was supporting a dem challenger over a sitting dem questionseverything Mar 2016 #107
posted on FB RWilliam Mar 2016 #108
Lord have mercy! Schultz just can't get low enough. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #114
Debbie Wasserman Schultz loves payday lenders and votes to put medical marijuana users in PRISON. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #115
I hope this gets more widely publicized. senz Mar 2016 #119
DWS is such a DINO tool. nt valerief Mar 2016 #121
Bought and Paid For CaptCaribbean Mar 2016 #123
People are (or not?) figuring out that you can't do stuff like this in the age of the internet Rebkeh Mar 2016 #124
Donate to Tom Canova Auggie Mar 2016 #125
The voters need to vote her out. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #127
Good luck, Tim! maryallen Mar 2016 #129
he could just hack into it like bernie did saturnsring Mar 2016 #136
Tim Canova, keep us updated Tree Frog Mar 2016 #138
Really tired of Wasserman Schultz Diremoon Mar 2016 #139
Boss Tweed reincarnate. virgista Mar 2016 #140
dunno, Boss Tweed died broke and worked to reward the party and wards MisterP Mar 2016 #142
Debbie "Loan-sharking" Schultz, you mean. Nyan Mar 2016 #141
If this pisses you off: Ken Burch Mar 2016 #145
I was coming here to post.. disillusioned73 Mar 2016 #150
What are the rules and how long have they been in place? treestar Mar 2016 #151
Why were these rules ever put in place to begin with? casperthegm Mar 2016 #152
It's a damn primary cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #154
Bad news for Professor Canova: Bernie lost Broward County by a lanslide (only 26% of the vote) Freddie Stubbs Mar 2016 #156

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
76. Integrity I.O.U's ?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:48 PM
Mar 2016

she's been taking out integrity loans. We should be charging her 300% interest like her Loan Shark buddies

musiclawyer

(2,335 posts)
104. The pressure should be placed on Obama
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:00 PM
Mar 2016

He appointed her. He can dismiss her. All the DNC shit is on Obama's legacy.

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
112. Doubt he would until after Nov,
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:54 PM
Mar 2016

Then it's someone elses problem anyway

It would show some guts and integrity if he did, but..........

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
2. Well, that is just as much of an admission as she is likely to make of trying the same stunt with
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:42 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders, back before Iowa.

DINO-Debbie is corrupt and just as much a piece of untrustworthy, voter-alienating Third Way arrogance as Clinton is. No wonder she campaigns for Clinton.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
82. Wel yes and no:
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:55 PM
Mar 2016

Under the circumstances he should.

But speaking in general, DWS should just do her f****ing job, instead of showing bias at every turn.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
22. do like that term
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:59 PM
Mar 2016

need to use it more. using actual people running. thereby not look like we are being anti democrat .... X_X

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
38. Please, Please, Please give Tim a few bucks!
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:15 PM
Mar 2016

Thank you for the link OS.

That #$#%#& DWS has got to be gone!

Data ONLY for Incumbents? WTF!


Omaha Steve

(99,494 posts)
56. DU for Tim has taken in $170 since this post and mine in GD went up this AM
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:26 PM
Mar 2016

And one recurring contribution was set up. Total pledged donations $1,375.00.


Live list here: https://secure.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/42087


jwirr

(39,215 posts)
53. Just donated $5. IMO it is too bad we can't find some way
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:24 PM
Mar 2016

to shut down the phone/internet at the DNC until she leaves. But I suppose that is illegal?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
135. I did know a young man in Anonymous but he is no longer
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 09:04 PM
Mar 2016

involved. But you are right they could probably do it.

 

MissDeeds

(7,499 posts)
99. Thanks Omaha Steve
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:39 PM
Mar 2016

I just saw this and sent Tim Canova a donation and will support his run with periodic contributions. DWS is toxic to the party and must be defeated.

TheDormouse

(1,168 posts)
7. What if the incumbent is doing a shtty job & the challenger is a lifelong loyal Dem?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:44 PM
Mar 2016

Their policies are really f'd up.
I really wish I was in DWS's district so I could vote against her!

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
11. And so what?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:48 PM
Mar 2016

You should respectful seeing as how I invited Tim here to chime in.
Just a FYI.
Because he has been a Dem for a short time doesn't make his opinion any less or more valuable than your own.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
33. It's not his turn
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:10 PM
Mar 2016

You don't get to be a member of the nomenklatura through something as decadent as getting people to vote for you in an election. It is a reward for loyal service to the Party. Now please join our massed choir as they sing of the glories of traktor produktion.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
47. Exactly!
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:20 PM
Mar 2016

So we should only vote for big money, big power Entrenched DINO's that don't give a fucking shit about us...and the only reason to vote for them is that so-called lifelong (D)?

There is that damned "loyalty" thing again...BLIND loyalty, no matter how rotten or crooked that so-called Democrat is?

Makes my blood BOIL when I hear crap like that.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
50. Politicians and other public officials are subject to criticism here regardless of your invitation.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:22 PM
Mar 2016

And there is absolutely nothing disrespectful about the post you replied to.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
23. Patrick Murphy has been a Democrat since 2012. Only changed in order to run against
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:02 PM
Mar 2016

another Republican, no epiphany, just ambition and convenience. Voted yes to create the Benghazi panel, voted with and votes with the GOP quite a lot.

DWS and Hillary LOVE him - because he is a DINO. And that's the difference.
Canova is more of a Democrat than DWS has ever been - and, you know, she has openly supported and fund-raised for GOP cronies running against actual Democrats, down here. So much for "loyal Democrat" bullshit.

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
74. There were no other Democrats running for that seat in 2012.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:46 PM
Mar 2016

He ran and took out the best-funded Republican congressman in the country. And he did it in district where there are more Republicans than Democrats.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
83. And he is still, IMO - a Republican.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:58 PM
Mar 2016

Did he revert back to being a Republican when he won? Nope. But he still voted/votes with the GOP, belongs to the Third Way-advised New Democrat Coalition - and - as you have stated - he only changed his registration to Democrat in order to run against a Republican. No change of view, just convenience and ambition.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
102. Not at first he didn't. And I do believe part of Pelosi's job is to orchestrate votes
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:34 PM
Mar 2016

so that some can vote yes or no on stuff without endangering what the party really wants, so they can look better to their constituents. That really is part of her job.

He has cleaned up his act/record considerably, with an eye to being a senator. At first, he was talking about cutting Social Security somehow, but that got scrubbed. New Democrat Coalition, for me, are Third Way-advised DINOs. I don't want two of them, Nelson is a DINO. IMO etc.

My bottom line - DINO due to Third-Way advised New Democrat Coalition. Will be voting for Grayson.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
148. Mr. Stubbs, I will do some research, but here is the thing - Murphy turned Democrat for his own
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:17 AM
Mar 2016

ambitions. If he had been allowed to primary Allen West as a Republican, he would have done so. He is quite comfy in the DWS/Clinton Third Way circle, and I will never vote for him.

Here is a clip from when Murphy first joined Congress -



Murphy really really wanted "structural changes" to social security and medicare. He is a DINO. He sounds better now, because, as he says, voters are paying attention. Near the end of the interview, the reporters gets him to say he will break ranks with the Democrats.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
59. We are supposed to be the big-tent party.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:27 PM
Mar 2016

What has happened to us. Who decides who is and who is not a Democrat?

Can you imagine a church that does not welcome converts?

If he is running as a Democrat, he is a Democrat.

We cannot have change in our society unless we welcome change in our politics and in our political parties.

This rule of the Florida Democratic Party is deeply conservative nad has no place in the Democratic Party. Let Tim win or lose on an equal playing ground with DWS.

What?

Is she such a bad candidate that she cannot face a challenger who has the same voter database as she does?

What?

Are we now the party of the status quo and not the part of progress and new ideas and new candidates?

Uggggggh!

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
109. The Democratic Party IS a Big Tent,
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:11 PM
Mar 2016
but there is NO ROOM for those who advance the agenda of The Rich
at the expense of the Working Class and The Poor!


That is as dumb as letting Management sit in and have a vote at Union Meetings,
and even dumber to let Management become Officers and other positions of power in a LABOR Union.
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
90. What an ironic thing to say. Some say that having a (D) behind the name is all that matters.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:59 PM
Mar 2016

Actually upholding Democratic principles (like not betraying your Party and helping the Republicons ala Bush/Cheney) doesn't seem to matter. Now we are saying that we judge how good a Democrat is by their length of time as a Democrat. I bet you think highly of Lieberman. He was a Democrat a long time.

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
8. Another Johnny-come-lately complaining about the rules of the party he just joined
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:45 PM
Mar 2016

He's been a registered Democrat for less than a year and already he can't hack it. I hope that he enjoys his stay.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
17. Kim Davis was a Dem until just recently. I guess she would get your vote too?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:54 PM
Mar 2016

She was a life-long Dem who hated equal rights for gay people. But hey, as long as she had that "D" next to her name, she's better than any other candidate. Right?

marew

(1,588 posts)
21. Excellent point!
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:58 PM
Mar 2016

We have a number of "not deep thinkers" here. It would be comical if it wasn't, well, you know!

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
29. Guess you never considered the ISSUES for a candidate, just the letter, right?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:05 PM
Mar 2016

Actually, that is so obvious, I didn't need to ask. Sorry!
Hey, maybe I will get a chance to vote for the REPUBLICAN buddies that Debbie openly supports down here!

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
26. yes, 3rdway infiltrators/traitors to the new deal love the time stamp
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:04 PM
Mar 2016

that they selectively apply ONLY to those that oppose the Clinton machine.

Now if it happens to be a former repub turned dem that plays the 3rdway game -- not so much -- even if both cases are in the very same state.

angrychair

(8,678 posts)
40. So, how long??
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:17 PM
Mar 2016

How long do they have to be a Democrat before they are good enough? 5 years? 7 years? 10 years? Are only people that have been a Democrat their entire life good enough?
If so, than HRC, a former Republican, would not meet your standards. Not just a Republican but a Republican that was a Congressional staffer and went to the RNC National Convention in 1968 to help elect a Republican president.

Major Nikon

(36,818 posts)
120. True, but I suspect DWS would be on the short list for HRC's VP candidates
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:22 PM
Mar 2016

Short of her good buddy, Lloyd Blankfein nobody else has done more to get her to where she is.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
122. Oh please barf no
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:25 PM
Mar 2016

I think Hillary's political instincts are bad, but they're not THAT bad. I suspect Julian Castro is a fairly done deal, because he checks off several important demographic boxes, not the least of which being relative youth.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
49. Well, I'm a lifelong Democrat,
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:21 PM
Mar 2016

and I say let him access the VAN.

I didn't leave my party, my party left me.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
89. Not surprised that you'd chose PayDay lenders over their victims. Goes along with supporting
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:55 PM
Mar 2016

the bankers over those losing their homes. And I know, I know that Clinton isn't totally uncaring, she will give them a tax credit of $25 dollars (or cake).

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
116. Would you like to defend DWS voting to send terminally ill medical marijuana users to prison?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:11 PM
Mar 2016

You know she gleefully allied herself with Sheldon Adelson on that issue, dont you, Fred?



Go ahead, defend it. I will wait.

LW1977

(1,232 posts)
118. I've been leaning more towards Hillary, because of right wing smears posted here against her
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:18 PM
Mar 2016

But DWS is a disgrace and needs to go!

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
131. There are no such fucking rules.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:32 PM
Mar 2016

They denied us access a couple of years ago, AFTER we won a primary, and Debbie Disaster endorsed her Republican friend.

Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)
12. Gonna kick him another
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:49 PM
Mar 2016

donation. He's a Good Guy. Taught at our UNM Law School in ABQ for a few years and was very active here politically.


 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
14. But she's a "Real Democrat" which means we must cheer her every move, right?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 12:50 PM
Mar 2016

Come on, authoritarians, shows us why we should support this shit!

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
64. she's probally paying them to do it.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:37 PM
Mar 2016

I can't see how anyone could still support her with all the lies and gaffes and her conservative history.

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
30. He seems to be confused. He's blaming the DNC for something that the FL Dem Party is doing.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:06 PM
Mar 2016

His confusion is understandable, as Mr. Canova has been a Democrat for less than a year.

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
32. Right because people who are new to the party are stupid Freddie?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:09 PM
Mar 2016

I should alert on your post because shit like this is downright stupid.

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
63. He was a legislative aide to Paul Tsongas (D-Mass).
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:36 PM
Mar 2016

He has been a Democrat for a little bit longer than a year.

But he was out of state working in New Mexico then California. So he wouldn't have been registered and voting in his home state back then.

Sorry to burst your holier-than-thou schtick.



[font size=1 color=gray]Disclaimer: that last sentences was a lie. I quite enjoyed myself.[/font]


 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
153. You think DWS is qualified
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:17 AM
Mar 2016

while defending Pay Day Loan places and helping her Republican friends get elected?
Sorry bud but you're no Dem. You're a Dempublican.

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
155. The voters in her district seem to think so
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:12 PM
Mar 2016

She was elected to four terms to the Florida House of Representatives. What did the voters do then? They elected her serve in the Florida Senate where she served for four years. Wow, I'll bet the voters were really sick of her after that, right? Nope. The elected her to Congress and have reelected her five times. All of this happened in western Broward County where Democrats have an overwhelming majority. All of these Democrats must be fake Democrats since they keep reelecting Congresswoman Wasserman Schultz.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
133. A lot of us left for "No Party Affiliation" in protest a few years ago.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:40 PM
Mar 2016

We'd never vote for a Republican, and most of us came back just to vote for Bernie.

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
147. Then perhaps he should be running as an NPA
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:44 AM
Mar 2016

The district is so overwealmingly Democratic that there is no chance of a Republican being elected there.

Fuddnik

(8,846 posts)
132. You realize that the current FDP Chair worked for ChoicePoint during the 2000 purge, right?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 08:37 PM
Mar 2016

And her husband was Lead Counsel for the Bush side of Bush v Gore?

Debbie Disaster and DINO Nelson pick birds of a feather.

One of the reasons Democrats can't win anything in this state. They support cronies, and that's it.

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
39. No, that's Doug Hughes
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:16 PM
Mar 2016

Gyrocopter pilot who landed at Capitol hopes to return — as a Congressman

The Florida postal worker who landed a gyrocopter at the U.S. Capitol on April 15 to protest campaign finance laws is planning to run for Congress, his attorney said in a court filing Wednesday.

Douglas Hughes, 62, of Ruskin, Fla., is asking a court for permission to travel to campaign on curbing the influence of money in politics, a job that would include meeting voters, making speeches and soliciting endorsements, his lawyer said. Hughes’s bid might also test whether felons can run for Congress in Florida.

Hughes faces sentencing April 13 after pleading guilty to one felony count of flying without a license aboard his low-power gyrocopter from Gettysburg, Pa., to the District.

On Wednesday, Hughes asked U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly of the District to modify his pre-sentence confinement to lift a ban on travel outside Hillsborough County, where he lives, and allow him to travel throughout Florida.

more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/gyrocopter-pilot-who-landed-at-capitol-hopes-to-return--as-a-congressman/2015/12/16/e222fc7c-a432-11e5-ad3f-991ce3374e23_story.html

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
143. Awwww, is Debbie not getting the admiration you think she deserves?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:38 AM
Mar 2016


It was nice of her to protect us from dangerous terminally ill grannies who want to ease their chemo nausea with pot brownies, by voting to send them to prison, wasn't it?

casperthegm

(643 posts)
37. If DWS and these policies represent the Democratic party
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:14 PM
Mar 2016

then the party no longer represents me. I hope the voters in her district are aware of this and care enough to vote for Tim.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
45. And, they wonder why people are fed up with politics-as-usual.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:18 PM
Mar 2016
"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either would be unworthy of a reasonable or moral man." Thomas Jefferson

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
52. Donated a few dollars
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:24 PM
Mar 2016

between him and Bernie, I'm hitting my limit.

I would say that she should be ashamed but it appears that she has none. Go Tim!!

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
54. Question for DWS . . .
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:24 PM
Mar 2016

Is it the policy of the DNC to deny access to any Democratic primary opponent of a Democratic incumbent or does that apply only if the incumbent Democrat is also the chair of the DNC?

As a follow up question, is this the policy of the DNC or just your personal policy

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
57. To really get rid of DWS, we must elect both Bernie Sanders and Tim Canova.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:27 PM
Mar 2016

DWS is obviously bucking for a cabinet position in Hillary's administration and she'll get it if Hillary wins. Then her position in Congress won't matter.

Let us remember who appointed DWS to be chairperson of the Democratic Party. You cannot say she stinks but Obama smells clean.

Remember how people like to say Obama is playing three-dimensional chess? He appointed her to be the queen in this dirty and highly corrupt game.

He promised us a transparent administration. This is what we got ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016147152

 

earthshine

(1,642 posts)
96. Bernie's coattails will be yuuuuuge!
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:35 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary will be able to provide the down-ticket with lots of money. And then, they will be bought and paid for — financially beholden to her, the third-way DLC, Wall Street, and the billionaires. Picture Debbie Wasserman Schultz jumping for joy.

Bernie will bring people to the polls based on enthusiasm. And the down-ticket will consist of freethinking, liberalized progressives.

Which do you prefer?

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
69. I've dropped my membership and any donation, not even $5, to the DNC until she is gone!
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:43 PM
Mar 2016

I'll have nothing to do with the DNC until she is history...ancient history! Shame on them for keeping this hack at the helm.

I hope she gets beat, badly, for her own congressional seat next November.

NJCher

(35,619 posts)
73. What can we do?
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 01:46 PM
Mar 2016

In addition to donating money?

I want to see a visually embarrassing protest against dws. Something graphic, like when coathangers were sent to representatives who had gone on record saying they would vote for pro-life restrictions on abortion. What would be a good visual that would register in the minds of the public?

Seriously, can anyone think of anything?


Cher

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
87. He should sue DWS
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:35 PM
Mar 2016

She has to go..how can any Democrat especially Obama put up with her BS without demanding she resign.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
111. DWS was appointed by President Obama.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:40 PM
Mar 2016

She remains as Chair of the DNC because the Democratic Party Power Brokers approve of the job she is doing. If they didn't, she would have been fired long ago.

She FAILED miserably as chair of the Red to Blue Program in 2008 when she refused to endorse Democrats who had won their Primaries and were for challenging vulnerable Republican seats. DWS said she didn't want her Republican Friends to be uncomfortable.
She Failed Upwards to chair the DNC, and she will Fail Upwards again if Hillary becomes president.

"I want to thank Debbie Wasserman-Schultz for being an outstanding chair of our party. (Applause.) She is a great partner."--President Obama


With "partners" like DWS, who needs Republicans?

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
100. K&R
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 03:51 PM
Mar 2016

Thanks for posting this pinebox.

Does anyone know how to check this "rule" out. I am looking but haven't found it. I am concerned that a bad rep/senator cannot be forced out of office. A house rep has unlimited two-year terms, and a senator has unlimited six-year terms. So how does anyone run against an incumbent, unless they are from another party? I mean how do they "fairly" compete if they don't have access to the DNC voter list?

This is not only mean spirited and paranoid, it's just wrong. How do you kick out a bad representative or senator, if you can't have a fair race running a new candidate against them from your own party?

When was this decision made (this rule) and is there any way to break it?

Delmette

(522 posts)
103. Donated...
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 04:41 PM
Mar 2016

Go Tim!

I live on the opposite end of the country but I appreciate that he is opposing Debbie.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
105. I only wish this surprised me
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:03 PM
Mar 2016

Already decided I'm changing to independent after our primary until that woman in no longer in charge. Wish I could file the paperwork today.

What a shrew.

questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
107. i read here last week obama was supporting a dem challenger over a sitting dem
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:06 PM
Mar 2016

wonder if that challenger gets access?

RWilliam

(6 posts)
108. posted on FB
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 05:07 PM
Mar 2016

I posted this on my FB page so that my progressive friends and family members could see this and get to know Tim Canova. I feel it is time to move the conversation beyond Trump and start to look at some of the other issues folks like us are concerned with, apart from Sanders and Clinton.

But yeah this is NUTZ. I wish Tim the best.

Uncle Joe

(58,282 posts)
114. Lord have mercy! Schultz just can't get low enough.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:07 PM
Mar 2016


I hope the good people of Florida throw her out of office.

Thanks for the thread, pinebox.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
115. Debbie Wasserman Schultz loves payday lenders and votes to put medical marijuana users in PRISON.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:09 PM
Mar 2016

She's really represents our brand well, dontchathink?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
119. I hope this gets more widely publicized.
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

The miscreants that took over our party in the 1990s need to go, the sooner the better.

CaptCaribbean

(15 posts)
123. Bought and Paid For
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:38 PM
Mar 2016

Wasserman/Schultz, Howard Dean, Paul Krugman. Who knows what Hillary/Bill have promised to these imposters and the other phony assholes like them.

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
124. People are (or not?) figuring out that you can't do stuff like this in the age of the internet
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:50 PM
Mar 2016

Especially not with millions at the ready to prove/disprove everything instantaneously. It just pays to be authentic, it must be so tiring to keep all the deceptions aligned.

If you don't lie, you don't have to remember so much to keep stories straight.

Same principle. This is why Bernie is such a breath of fresh air, he is authentic because he gives himself he freedom to be so. And we trust him because of that.

maryallen

(2,172 posts)
129. Good luck, Tim!
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 07:49 PM
Mar 2016

Last election, she favored some FL Republicans over novice Democrats. Ask her why she did that ...
No good answer for a party chairman that I can think of.

 

Tree Frog

(25 posts)
138. Tim Canova, keep us updated
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 11:50 PM
Mar 2016

Thanks for the post 'pinebox'.
Invite Tim to keep coming to DU to update us. And to let us know how we can help him get elected, even those of us that don't live in Florida.

Diremoon

(86 posts)
139. Really tired of Wasserman Schultz
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:19 AM
Mar 2016

Is it any wonder that I have blocked any email from DNC or Democrats.org?

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
142. dunno, Boss Tweed died broke and worked to reward the party and wards
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:34 AM
Mar 2016

that elected him: nowadays we have machine politics minus the patronage

 

disillusioned73

(2,872 posts)
150. I was coming here to post..
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:12 AM
Mar 2016

this same exact story - unfreakinbelievable... this women HAS GOT TO GO!!

How can any reasonably minded "D" defend this shit?!?!

[link:http://observer.com/2016/03/rigged-debbie-wasserman-schultz-strikes-once-again/|

treestar

(82,383 posts)
151. What are the rules and how long have they been in place?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:18 AM
Mar 2016

Before judging, I'd like to hear both sides.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
152. Why were these rules ever put in place to begin with?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:34 AM
Mar 2016

I'd like to think of the Democratic party as the party that plays fair. These rules simply aren't fair. Who has the ability to correct this and why hasn't it been done?

I expect more from the party that expects me to back their candidate no matter what.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
154. It's a damn primary
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:04 PM
Mar 2016

He should be allowed access. It's not link he's running against the Democratic incumbent in the general election. That would make sense. Not in the primary.

Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
156. Bad news for Professor Canova: Bernie lost Broward County by a lanslide (only 26% of the vote)
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:00 AM
Mar 2016
http://enr.electionsfl.org/BRO/Summary/1443/

He even lost Professor Canova's home precinct garnering less than 37% of the vote there.
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