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earcandle

(3,622 posts)
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 01:21 AM Jan 2012

Jonathan Turley: Losing our liberties

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Jonathan Turley
Friday, Jan 13, 2012
" Every year, the State Department issues reports on individual rights in other countries, monitoring the passage of restrictive laws and regulations around the world. Iran, for example, has been criticized for denying fair public trials and limiting privacy, while Russia has been taken to task for undermining due process. Other countries have been condemned for the use of secret evidence and torture.

Even as we pass judgment on countries we consider unfree, Americans remain confident that any definition of a free nation must include their own — the land of free. Yet, the laws and practices of the land should shake that confidence. In the decade since Sept. 11, 2001, this country has comprehensively reduced civil liberties in the name of an expanded security state. The most recent example of this was the National Defense Authorization Act, signed Dec. 31, which allows for the indefinite detention of citizens. At what point does the reduction of individual rights in our country change how we define ourselves?

While each new national security power Washington has embraced was controversial when enacted, they are often discussed in isolation. But they don’t operate in isolation. They form a mosaic of powers under which our country could be considered, at least in part, authoritarian. Americans often proclaim our nation as a symbol of freedom to the world while dismissing nations such as Cuba and China as categorically unfree. Yet, objectively, we may be only half right. Those countries do lack basic individual rights such as due process, placing them outside any reasonable definition of “free,” but the United States now has much more in common with such regimes than anyone may like to admit.

These countries also have constitutions that purport to guarantee freedoms and rights. But their governments have broad discretion in denying those rights and few real avenues for challenges by citizens — precisely the problem with the new laws in this country.

The list of powers acquired by the U.S. government since 9/11 puts us in rather troubling company. " see link

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Jonathan Turley: Losing our liberties (Original Post) earcandle Jan 2012 OP
I can't seem to add the link.. can someone advise? earcandle Jan 2012 #1
Not sure if you found it in the on washingtonpost.com, but it's also on his website. K&R limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #3
Due process is inefficient MannyGoldstein Jan 2012 #2
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
2. Due process is inefficient
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 01:31 AM
Jan 2012

We're fightin' a War on Terra, damnit. Taliban Turley hates our freedoms that we have to eliminate to preserve 'em.

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