2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton pretended her positions are more liberal at last night's CNN Town Hall.
One of Clinton's questions came from an exonerated man who had been on death row. He asked her how she can support the death penalty, given that innocent people are sometimes executed.
Clinton said that she wants to keep the death penalty in order to execute terrorists.
She didn't say, "Let's repeal non-terrorist death penalty statutes." However, she wanted viewers to get the false impression that's her position.
Another of Clinton's questions came from an anti-fracking activist woman, who asked about the problem of fracking pipelines nears organic farms.
Clinton said that she won't advocate banning fracking since a ban wouldn't pass Congress and she doesn't want to make "promises" she can't keep.
Of course, a candidate taking a position isn't the same as making a promise. When Clinton takes the position that we should repeal that Hyde Amendment, for example, she's not promising she can get Congress to repeal the Hyde amendment. Her reference to what Congress would pass regarding fracking is an attempt to confuse viewers about her position: Hillary Clinton doesn't want to ban fracking.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)She's a phony and a shapeshifter.
Disgusting.
Mudcat
(179 posts)attorneys are trained to represent their clients to the best of their abilities, regardless of their own values & beliefs. Within that context, she's doing her best to win a nomination & then an election, while representing those who have paid very sizeable retainers for her professional services.
as my crazy high school buddy (albeit he was kind of creepy) used to say: hate the game, not the player
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)It's a way of lying by avoiding a straightforward answer.
One thing I really liked about Bernie's answer to the question about Cuba in the Univision town hall is that he did not try to pretty up his answer. He knew that a lot of people would not like the truth, but he told it anyway. He owns up to his life and his reality.
Hillary is sneaky. Sorry to say that, but she is.
As a president, she will keep hard truths from the American people.
I do not like that. Virtually every recent president has lied to Americans by hiding the truth from us. It is a very dangerous practice.
Hillary will be past master of it.
Feel the Bern! He is the most honest of all the candidates.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)Given:
Humans are fallible.
Humans make mistakes.
If you have a death penalty, mistakes will be made and an innocent person will be executed.
Question:
How many innocent people is it okay to murder in order to punish the guilty? Round numbers, please.
Cavallo
(348 posts)I've heard enough....
This woman...
H2O Man
(73,524 posts)Her stance on capital punishment bothers me. As I've noted here before, before the movie "The Hurricane" hit the theaters, Hillary invited my good friend Rubin Carter to the White House. They had a private screening for Hillary and Bill. I know that Rubin told them about his experience discussing the death penalty with then- Texas governor George W. Bush, among other things.
My friend barely escaped the electric chair -- for a crime that he did not commit. Both Bill and Hillary understood that Carter and co-defendant John Artis were not merely "not guilty," due to some legal technicality. They were 100% innocent.
I find few things as insulting as her position on capital punishment.