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Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:01 AM Mar 2016

Medical Alert? Is Hillary suffering from mini strokes? I'm concerned.

Given her recent notable memory lapses,

Where was Bernie in 1992 when I was fighting for healthcare
Nancy Reagan & AIDS
No American was killed in Libya

and, given her medical history and history of notable memory lapses (Boznia comes to mind),

I am concerned that she is suffering micro or mini strokes that are going unattended.

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Medical Alert? Is Hillary suffering from mini strokes? I'm concerned. (Original Post) Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 OP
Are you a doctor? RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #1
exactly. If you have a problem with my empathy and compassionate concern... Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #8
You mean your lack there! whistler162 Mar 2016 #74
Ya she's probably just lying to get elected Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #66
Let's not go down that path. nt Xipe Totec Mar 2016 #2
I think its a fair question. Joe the Revelator Mar 2016 #4
No, I don't think alleging mental incompetence is fair. Xipe Totec Mar 2016 #9
please do not put words in my mouth or appended to my pen. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #15
Then say what you mean, and mean what you say. Xipe Totec Mar 2016 #21
OK, Will someone in Hillary Group contact her campaign and make sure she gets looked at? Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #31
Until one stops cowering behind implication and faux-concern LanternWaste Mar 2016 #60
Mini-strokes are not a mental illness. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #48
I think that the problem is that her primary physician is a spin doctor. virtualobserver Mar 2016 #3
^^BOOM^^ revbones Mar 2016 #6
lol Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #10
Oh no you didn't! jillan Mar 2016 #12
Simply incredible.... JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #18
I wish that it wasn't true. When you spend your entire political life spinning.... virtualobserver Mar 2016 #20
More than a grain of truth... dchill Mar 2016 #29
you become a... Hilltop? Mudcat Mar 2016 #37
what do you mean? virtualobserver Mar 2016 #38
Absolutely PERFECT Fawke Em Mar 2016 #22
DUzy farleftlib Mar 2016 #72
No she just lies a lot Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #5
Exactly. But you MUST have empathy... dchill Mar 2016 #32
The ruling oligarchy had picked Hillary and Jeb to be the two candidates for president. ... spin Mar 2016 #45
Else what... someone may disagree with you? LanternWaste Mar 2016 #63
Right! She's been lying so long- marew Mar 2016 #41
All of the Candidates SDJay Mar 2016 #7
Exactly. thucythucy Mar 2016 #14
Slip-ups my ass. dchill Mar 2016 #33
If true, that is indeed a serious and painful-sounding medical concern LanternWaste Mar 2016 #64
Has she released her medical records? I asked this the other day. I'm concerned jillan Mar 2016 #11
Looks like diabetes to me. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #25
Ok - I didn't know about that statement. jillan Mar 2016 #27
Yeah, I'm not holding that against her. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #30
Yes, as I'm sure you know, or could easily learn by go ogling Tanuki Mar 2016 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #13
1993... ConsiderThis_2016 Mar 2016 #16
She doesn't especially relish campaigning but that problem will oasis Mar 2016 #17
Jan 20th Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #24
Thanks oasis Mar 2016 #26
oasis, sir, or madame. Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #55
Hi, Elmer. oasis Mar 2016 #65
So lying = not a good campaigner? Avalux Mar 2016 #59
Relax. Once she's president, she'll be calling the shots. oasis Mar 2016 #68
That's what scares the shit out of me. Avalux Mar 2016 #70
"War" no. "National defense" yes. oasis Mar 2016 #71
I fear her supporters will get shaken baby syndrome mindwalker_i Mar 2016 #19
I think the term is "whiplash." dchill Mar 2016 #34
What medical history? GusBob Mar 2016 #23
Knock it off. This is bullshit. Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #28
She's not running for Chairman of the PTA... dchill Mar 2016 #35
I think Bernie's prostrate is enlarged gwheezie Mar 2016 #36
Just thought this myself recently libcrystal Mar 2016 #39
Thanks libcrystal for helping to keep this a thread of concern for Hillary's well-fare. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #42
She's relying on corporate media to not follow up. Because they don't. They won't during the primary Nyan Mar 2016 #40
Exactly! marew Mar 2016 #43
You can bet on it. nt Nyan Mar 2016 #44
Is Bernie suffering from an anger management problem? I'm concerned still_one Mar 2016 #46
Hamas - the group supporting terrorism for decades. Cavallo Mar 2016 #50
You obviously missed my irony entirely on the OP, and what do you think the responses here would still_one Mar 2016 #52
Post removed, I have to look into Hillary Clinton and Hamas on credible - familiar news sites. Cavallo Mar 2016 #51
read my post #52, and what my point was. Also for your information still_one Mar 2016 #53
she is on thyroid meds and and I think coumadin Mona Mar 2016 #47
Considering her out right lies when campaigning, I wouldn't say these lapses are accidents. Cavallo Mar 2016 #49
Dr. Humphrey has presented us with some brilliant medical knowledge. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #54
Yes. Your concern is palpable. MineralMan Mar 2016 #56
A wonderfully creative, Bill Frist-ian style diagnosis... LanternWaste Mar 2016 #58
Karl Rove pulled this same disgusting crap last year. Tanuki Mar 2016 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Codeine Mar 2016 #62
I'm not disputing that she is a liar, but this is an attempt to spread false rumors. Unrec. n/t demmiblue Mar 2016 #67
A sense of entitlement and lack of self awareness loyalsister Mar 2016 #69
I think her handlers pre-program her. She needs handlers without rose-colored glasses. Vinca Mar 2016 #73

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
1. Are you a doctor?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:02 AM
Mar 2016

I'm an unapologetic Bernie supporter, but if you're not a doctor, with respect, I think you might be in over your head.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
8. exactly. If you have a problem with my empathy and compassionate concern...
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:11 AM
Mar 2016

and I know you really don't...

Xipe Totec

(43,888 posts)
9. No, I don't think alleging mental incompetence is fair.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:13 AM
Mar 2016

It's pretty slimy in fact, and unworthy of Bernie supporters.

I don't think Bernie would condone this kind of approach.

There are plenty of policy differences between the candidates to drive a clear choice.

Whatever mistakes or misstatements she has made, let's not go half cocked claiming mental illness.

Xipe Totec

(43,888 posts)
21. Then say what you mean, and mean what you say.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:37 AM
Mar 2016

If you don't want people interpreting your words for you, then say EXACTLY what you mean.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
31. OK, Will someone in Hillary Group contact her campaign and make sure she gets looked at?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:48 AM
Mar 2016

I don't want to know the outcome, and I really don't want this thread to turn into anything other than a human concern and request for outreach. That's it.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
60. Until one stops cowering behind implication and faux-concern
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:36 PM
Mar 2016

Until one stops cowering behind implication and faux-concern, it's to be expected that meanings will be inferred from a diaphanous sentiment.

 

virtualobserver

(8,760 posts)
20. I wish that it wasn't true. When you spend your entire political life spinning....
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:34 AM
Mar 2016

you lose your perspective on how far you can spin before your words are laughable.

Attacking Bernie has required every ounce of spin that her team can muster because of the way he approaches his decisions.

dchill

(38,433 posts)
32. Exactly. But you MUST have empathy...
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:50 AM
Mar 2016

And you MUST NOT say anything about it!

Anointed.

Chosen.

Inevitable.

spin

(17,493 posts)
45. The ruling oligarchy had picked Hillary and Jeb to be the two candidates for president. ...
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:39 AM
Mar 2016

Unfortunately Jeb simply fell flat on his face.

Just about everybody in power fears Bernie, Trump and Cruz as if one of the three wins the Oval Office the political apple cart might get upset.



Rubio looked like he might become the establishment Republican puppet for a while but it looks like he cant even win in his home state of Florida. Kasich Might win Ohio tomorrow but gather few delegates in the remaining states.

You can bet the big donors and Wall Street will do their best to insure Hillary wins. Once again we will elect a president who promises real change but after she is elected little or nothing will be any different. The rich will get richer, the poor poorer and the middle class will continue to go extinct. Just like always.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
63. Else what... someone may disagree with you?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:38 PM
Mar 2016

"And you MUST NOT say anything about it..."

Else what... someone may disagree with you?

Quite the forceful consequence that would be, regardless of whether you think she's anointed, chosen, a messiah, or any other petulant pejoratives the GOP used on Pres. Obama.

marew

(1,588 posts)
41. Right! She's been lying so long-
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:20 AM
Mar 2016

I suspect she's no longer able to differentiate fact from fiction. She says whatever comes into her head at that moment that she feels will benefit her and it automatically becomes her current "truth". She really is a whirling dervish of inconsistent and ever-changing positions.

And, if she ever becomes president, we will see the same thing over and over and over depending what her handlers tell her to say.

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
7. All of the Candidates
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:11 AM
Mar 2016

are hitting a wall right now, and I try to keep that in mind. What they are going through is a meat grinder few if any of us could imagine. There are going to be slip-ups and such from every candidate.

thucythucy

(8,037 posts)
14. Exactly.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:19 AM
Mar 2016

I'm amazed at the stamina of both Democratic candidates. And I hope they're both getting whatever care they need to come through this intact and healthy for the GE and then the next four to eight years of their administration.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
64. If true, that is indeed a serious and painful-sounding medical concern
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:43 PM
Mar 2016

"Slip-ups my ass..."

If true, that is indeed a serious and painful-sounding medical concern and you should immediately have that looked at by a certified proctologist.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
11. Has she released her medical records? I asked this the other day. I'm concerned
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:18 AM
Mar 2016

about her weight gain. She has really put on the pounds since she left office as SoS.
It could be thyroid or another medical condition.

Or it could be stress.

Has she released them? We should know about her health.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
25. Looks like diabetes to me.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:42 AM
Mar 2016

I'm prediabetic. Diabetes runs (Type 1 and 2) in my family and if I don't watch my carbs like a hawk, I gain weight in my chest, stomach and neck like she has. I would blame it on traveling, but, since she's flying in a private jet and isn't poor, I can't fathom why she's not watching carbohydrates and sugar more closely. She (we all) should do that past age 40 anyway (unless we're naturally very thin or very athletic or have a physical job).

I noticed her weight gain, too, only because it mirrors my own. Diabetes, however, is no longer debilitating and shouldn't hinder her, if that is indeed the cause of the weight gain (and I'm ONLY SPECULATING. I certainly don't know). As I said, I noticed WHERE she was gaining weight more than making a judgment. Hell, I gain there, too. I know how it feels.

But, she's issued a statement from her doctor that she's fit for the position.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
27. Ok - I didn't know about that statement.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:45 AM
Mar 2016

I've put on a few myself so I shouldn't talk. Mine comes from spending too much time infront of this dang computer.

I always gain weight every election year. Nerves and sitting too much.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
30. Yeah, I'm not holding that against her.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:47 AM
Mar 2016

Most of us do gain weight as we age no matter what we do. I'd rather judge her on her policies. Too many people are judged on their weight, which is crap.

Like Chris Christie. There's so many things to hold against him that his weight shouldn't even be mentioned.

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
57. Yes, as I'm sure you know, or could easily learn by go ogling
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:34 PM
Mar 2016

or even searching this very site. She is in excellent health. I would imagine being on the campaign trail is not conducive to the best eating, excercise, and sleep patterns. Tipper Gore gained 20 pounds during the first Clinton-Gore campaign.

Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)

oasis

(49,321 posts)
17. She doesn't especially relish campaigning but that problem will
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:26 AM
Mar 2016

be solved after her election in November. She'll get some time off and, when needed, the best of medical care after January 17, 2017.

Let not your heart be troubled.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
55. oasis, sir, or madame.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:27 PM
Mar 2016

I enjoy your posts even when they make me upset. I so want the primaries to be over, so whomever it is, we can all get on the same side.

Hopefully one of us is going to feel really great later tonight. I can hardly stand the suspense. You?

oasis

(49,321 posts)
65. Hi, Elmer.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 03:12 PM
Mar 2016

I will support the Democratic candidate. Hopefully it's Hillary.

My wife and I have always tuned in on Bernie through the years whether he was on C-SPAN or talking heads show. Lifelong "liberal" Democrats, we were delighted when he announced his presidential run because we believe his message is so important.

Don't get too stressed by the race or the results. Glad you reached out, civil posters are always a comfort.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
59. So lying = not a good campaigner?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:35 PM
Mar 2016

Now THAT is hilarious. There's gobs of evidence that tell us she is someone else altogether behind closed doors and what we see from her is full on fake. Sometimes liars have a hard time keeping the lies straight, especially when they spend all day talking to the public.

oasis

(49,321 posts)
68. Relax. Once she's president, she'll be calling the shots.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 03:21 PM
Mar 2016

Hill will shape the policies and her spokespersons will do the lion's share of the presentations. It will be a better situation for all of us.

mindwalker_i

(4,407 posts)
19. I fear her supporters will get shaken baby syndrome
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:32 AM
Mar 2016

Having to defend diametrically opposed positions every 5 microseconds is going to do some damage.

dchill

(38,433 posts)
35. She's not running for Chairman of the PTA...
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 12:58 AM
Mar 2016

Fer chrissake. She did have a fall, with some kind of brain trauma. Not only is this a real issue, in the general election, it will be a political issue. Again, NOT bullshit. We can't all afford to stay classy. Sorry.

libcrystal

(6 posts)
39. Just thought this myself recently
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:09 AM
Mar 2016

Because those two screw ups (Reagan/AIDS & where Bernie was...) back to back was strange. It seemed especially odd since the Healthcare issue has been so big in this campaign and the AIDS neglect was so bad. It wasn't a little off or little slip. These were way off and elaborated. I really do not like her at all, but I wouldn't use this as a campaign thing. I just happen to think something is wrong.
I'm no doc, but wondered, if not mini strokes, early stage Alzheimer's or some other mental health issue (like the Bosnia thing was really odd, too).
I figure some stuff are campaign lies like 'I've always been for X' when she wasn't, But this other stuff is different.

Kip Humphrey

(4,753 posts)
42. Thanks libcrystal for helping to keep this a thread of concern for Hillary's well-fare.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:22 AM
Mar 2016

I appreciate it. You see, my Grandmother suffered micro and mini strokes so I'm a bit sensitive to the facts: that they often go un-diagnosed and unnoticed to those other than the sufferer; and can be mysterious, baffling, and confusing, even surprising to the sufferer because there is no pain, no localized sensation.

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
40. She's relying on corporate media to not follow up. Because they don't. They won't during the primary
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:19 AM
Mar 2016

But all of that is only for the time being. All of her lies are gonna resurface, and, in a very undesirable fashion by the RW media.
And then just wait to see. Once the FOX latches onto it, the rest of media will be on it pretty soon.

marew

(1,588 posts)
43. Exactly!
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:28 AM
Mar 2016

The GOP isn't saying much about her now but you know they are putting numerous files together. If she becomes the Democratic candidate, she's gonna' get gobsmacked big time!

still_one

(92,060 posts)
46. Is Bernie suffering from an anger management problem? I'm concerned
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:59 AM
Mar 2016


I wonder what some folks would say if Hillary had responded the way Bernie did?

still_one

(92,060 posts)
52. You obviously missed my irony entirely on the OP, and what do you think the responses here would
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:13 AM
Mar 2016

have been if that was Hillary talking at a town hall like that?

If you are honest I think you know the names that would have been hurled at her

and no my point was not even about the Israeli/Palestinian issue, but that will be coming to the front soon enough, since AIPAC has invited all the leading candidates, including Bernie to speak before them, and there were threads from some Sanders' supporters yesterday urging Sanders not to even appear.

I think he will appear, as he should, and I don't think he will make any waves with his presentation there, which will concern some of his supporters

Cavallo

(348 posts)
51. Post removed, I have to look into Hillary Clinton and Hamas on credible - familiar news sites.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 03:14 AM
Mar 2016

that one says she brokered a deal with hamas cease fire then removed it from her biography because it has been broken.

still_one

(92,060 posts)
53. read my post #52, and what my point was. Also for your information
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:16 AM
Mar 2016

if you want to remove one of your posts, all you need to do is select self-delete at the bottom right of your post

Mona

(135 posts)
47. she is on thyroid meds and and I think coumadin
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:26 AM
Mar 2016
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/hillaryclintonmedicalrecords.pdf

I have had some concerns about her head injury. I know that sometimes they can cause some mild problems that don't show up on scans, and can be made worse with lack of sleep and stress.

I first noted that when she would speak, she appeared, even when speaking with passion, to really need the teleprompter/notes. This is what initially made me start worrying that she may still be having some residual effects from the head injury. Speaking calmly and more deliberately is better. I haven't really wanted to think down this path, but it has been a concern.

The other thought is that she has a crap thryoid doctor and she is undertreated, which is VERY common.

Cavallo

(348 posts)
49. Considering her out right lies when campaigning, I wouldn't say these lapses are accidents.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 03:02 AM
Mar 2016

Pick a topic she's for now and google her on it. After planned parenthood which she also has issues with - not supporting late term abortions, she's really not coming up well in google on fact checks.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
54. Dr. Humphrey has presented us with some brilliant medical knowledge.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:16 AM
Mar 2016

I remember when we use to mock Frist, now he is being emulated.

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
56. Yes. Your concern is palpable.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:33 PM
Mar 2016

Note: "Palpable" means capable of being felt. Just in case the definition is needed.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
58. A wonderfully creative, Bill Frist-ian style diagnosis...
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:35 PM
Mar 2016

A wonderfully creative, Bill Frist-ian style diagnosis... and containing the same amount of sincerity in its alleged concern, I would guess.

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
61. Karl Rove pulled this same disgusting crap last year.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 02:36 PM
Mar 2016

Are you sure you are on the right website? Obviously you hate HRC, but this is despicable and reeks of desperation.

Response to Kip Humphrey (Original post)

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
69. A sense of entitlement and lack of self awareness
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 03:27 PM
Mar 2016

Are actually pretty common and do not require pathology to manifest.
I am not inclined to give credence to distant arm chair diagnoses coming from health professionals. It is even more troublesome when they are trying to fan flames and create controversy to serve an agenda.

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