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Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:56 PM Mar 2016

Students Are Being Rejected From The Polls Because Of North Carolina’s Voter ID Law

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http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/03/15/3760266/north-carolina-voter-id/

North Carolina’s controversial voter identification law is being used for the first time in Tuesday’s primary, and registered voters are experiencing the consequences of the voter suppression measure.

About 218,000 North Carolinians, roughly five percent of registered voters, do not have an acceptable form of government-issued ID that is now required under state law to cast a ballot.

Early voting offered a glimpse of the problems that will arise on Tuesday — during the past ten days of early voting, many college students were blocked from the polls. North Carolina’s WRAL reported that 864 people across the state had cast provisional early ballots because they did not have acceptable forms of ID, and four of the five counties with the highest concentrations of provisional ballots from voters without ID were in places with college campuses.

Bob Hall, the executive director of Democracy North Carolina, told ThinkProgress that the voter protection hotline is receiving many calls, “disproportionately from young people and students,” who are being told they do not have acceptable ID, so they have to “go through the maze of filling out forms” and provisional ballots. Those ballots run the risk of being challenged and not being counted.
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Students Are Being Rejected From The Polls Because Of North Carolina’s Voter ID Law (Original Post) Luminous Animal Mar 2016 OP
Whatever it takes (TM) farleftlib Mar 2016 #1
Can't beat 'em, Cheat 'em TrueDemVA Mar 2016 #2
That's horse manure and you know it. LonePirate Mar 2016 #4
can't believe enough folks here think it is ok to call a potential D presidential nominee a cheater DrDan Mar 2016 #10
Exactly how surprised should I be? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #3
I voted for Sanders in NC!! DemocraticSocialist8 Mar 2016 #5
funny how hill2016 Mar 2016 #6
I you calling these students liars? Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #8
nope hill2016 Mar 2016 #12
Funny, if they were octogenarians, you'd be pitching a fit! But, it's working for you, so who cares? TheBlackAdder Mar 2016 #13
so just to clarify, are you okay with the Replublicans' new voter ID laws? 0rganism Mar 2016 #14
Where were you when this went into effect? Suddenly, the day after the election and your guy lost, Tanuki Mar 2016 #30
? wow, you just dropped a whole raftload of assume right there 0rganism Mar 2016 #32
Organism, I apologize, as I was responding to a sequence of several posts, only one of which Tanuki Mar 2016 #33
apology accepted Tanuki 0rganism Mar 2016 #34
these restrictions are new, never before in place G_j Mar 2016 #15
yeah guess what hill2016 Mar 2016 #16
Are you sure you are a Democrat? These laws are specifically designed by Republicans Luminous Animal Mar 2016 #17
You mirror your "winning is all that matters" candidate. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #18
not just young people either G_j Mar 2016 #20
Voter ID laws are racist shawn703 Mar 2016 #23
Are you really ok with these voters being disenfranchised? suffragette Mar 2016 #26
So, you are proof, Post #4 is wrong: some Hillary Dems DO support disenfranchising voter ID laws. raging moderate Mar 2016 #29
Obviously you have NO IDEA what has marions ghost Mar 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Gene Debs Mar 2016 #27
so you just accept the anti american bs and go on. PatrynXX Mar 2016 #28
Disenfranchisement is not funny at all Cal Carpenter Mar 2016 #9
Wait a minute: are you saying you are in favor of restrictive voter ID laws? surrealAmerican Mar 2016 #11
Clinton fans now support voter suppression laws ibegurpard Mar 2016 #7
We have one right here in this thread. arcane1 Mar 2016 #19
I don't. Agschmid Mar 2016 #24
No we don't.Stop it.Many of us have been fighting this sort of thing tooth and nail for a long time, Tanuki Mar 2016 #31
that's bad for everyone dana_b Mar 2016 #21
Folks should be pissed and blaming the system, and not individuals bigwillq Mar 2016 #22
 

farleftlib

(2,125 posts)
1. Whatever it takes (TM)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:58 PM
Mar 2016

They are sadly correct in assuming the provisional ballots will never be counted. Students must not be allowed to vote because they will overwhelmingly vote for Sanders.

TrueDemVA

(250 posts)
2. Can't beat 'em, Cheat 'em
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:03 PM
Mar 2016

Republican mantra for decades that has taken a firm grip in the Clinton campaign.

LonePirate

(13,412 posts)
4. That's horse manure and you know it.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:08 PM
Mar 2016

No Dem has supported these disenfranchising voter IDs. It's shameful and dishonest to suggest Hillary supports them.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
10. can't believe enough folks here think it is ok to call a potential D presidential nominee a cheater
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:21 PM
Mar 2016

sad - I will be glad when this primary season is over and . . . well, you know

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hill2016

(1,772 posts)
12. nope
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:45 PM
Mar 2016

just wondering why everyone else managed to vote fine. Welcome to the real world where you are no longer coddled. It's called adulthood and responsibility.

TheBlackAdder

(28,179 posts)
13. Funny, if they were octogenarians, you'd be pitching a fit! But, it's working for you, so who cares?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:49 PM
Mar 2016

.


I'm for one person, one vote. Pure democracy.

I see that there are a few who like restricted democracy.


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0rganism

(23,933 posts)
14. so just to clarify, are you okay with the Replublicans' new voter ID laws?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:50 PM
Mar 2016

looks like everyone was able to vote fine except for the people who weren't able to vote because they didn't have the right ID.

right now, it might be working in your preferred candidate's favor, but when November rolls around i think HRC supporters will be hoping as many voters as possible get to cast ballots.

Tanuki

(14,916 posts)
30. Where were you when this went into effect? Suddenly, the day after the election and your guy lost,
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:43 AM
Mar 2016

you have the brass to blame this on Hillary? No, this disenfranchisement of young voters is NOT ok, and it was aimed at Democrats in general, at every level of government. You only squawk, belatedly, when it may have had an impact on Bernie. Welcome to the party, but why didn't you speak up about this before now?

0rganism

(23,933 posts)
32. ? wow, you just dropped a whole raftload of assume right there
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:53 PM
Mar 2016

where was i? physically i was in Oregon, where i live and work, far away from NC where this shitty anti-democratic law was enacted, ostensibly through the represented will of the people. like almost everyone else at DU, i deplore these Republican measures and their transparent purpose of voter suppression, and feel helpless to do anything about it. this is hardly the first time i've discussed such matters at DU.

now your turn: where in my post did i "have the brass to blame this on Hillary"? exact quote please. thanks in advance.

just fyi, i'm still neutral on my choice of candidate for the election, but if i were inclined to base such decisions mainly on the behavior of a candidates' supporters, you would have done a lot to help me decide right there.

Tanuki

(14,916 posts)
33. Organism, I apologize, as I was responding to a sequence of several posts, only one of which
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:52 PM
Mar 2016

was yours. You are correct and did not deserve the brunt of my reaction. Some others seem to have just awakened this morning and found out that it is a problem and somehow aimed at Sanders, but obviously not you. I live in Tennessee, where our state legislature turned from blue to red a few years ago and we have been fighting hard against this. Disenfranchisement/voter suppression is really a sore point for me. Please forgive my intemperate and misdirected post.

0rganism

(23,933 posts)
34. apology accepted Tanuki
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:25 PM
Mar 2016

i can see that a lot of DUers are on edge lately. thanks for making a stand-up apology despite it all.

i consider this to be one of the trial runs for the new GOP voter suppression techniques, and it's dismaying how well it worked. winning in states with these laws will be an extra challenge for us going forward, until we can win at the state level and set matters right again.

G_j

(40,366 posts)
15. these restrictions are new, never before in place
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:54 PM
Mar 2016

are you defending draconian Republican voter suppression?

 

hill2016

(1,772 posts)
16. yeah guess what
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:58 PM
Mar 2016

it's their responsibility (oh...what a big word) to figure out what are the requirements before voting.

Just like anyone taking up residence in a new state needs to figure out what documents to bring and what are the requirements to change an out-of-state driver license.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
17. Are you sure you are a Democrat? These laws are specifically designed by Republicans
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:09 PM
Mar 2016

to disenfranchised voters. They are being deployed in states where Republicans dominate government and thus they are designed to disenfranchise Democratic voters.

Democrats do not write laws like this. In fact, Democrats write laws to make it easier to vote.

These restrictions primarily impact the young and the elderly the most.

G_j

(40,366 posts)
20. not just young people either
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:26 PM
Mar 2016

Rosanell Eaton, a 94-year-old voter, had to recite the Preamble to Constitution to vote in North Carolina in the 1940s. Last year, she had to make 11 trips to state agencies to comply with the voter ID law.


You approve?

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
26. Are you really ok with these voters being disenfranchised?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:14 PM
Mar 2016

Most of whom would likely vote Democratic.

raging moderate

(4,296 posts)
29. So, you are proof, Post #4 is wrong: some Hillary Dems DO support disenfranchising voter ID laws.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:35 AM
Mar 2016

Have a care. A sound ethical system also requires winners to practice good sportsmanship. You would have a better chance of winning Bernie supporter over to Hillary in the general election if you show concern for the disenfranchisement of Black, old, and student voters.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
25. Obviously you have NO IDEA what has
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 08:11 PM
Mar 2016

happened in North Carolina to disenfranchise voters.

Or you couldn't possibly say something as nasty as that.

Response to hill2016 (Reply #12)

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
28. so you just accept the anti american bs and go on.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 09:05 PM
Mar 2016

well thats what they do in dictatorships but not here

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
9. Disenfranchisement is not funny at all
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

Voter ID laws disproportionately effect young people/students, poor people, and minorities. They disproportionately effect Democratic voters. This fact is not in question. If you think that is 'funny', then I don't even know what to say to you. Perhaps I am misunderstanding your post but it seems like you are dismissive of the right to vote among these hundreds of thousands of people (in just 1 state, mind you). I hope I'm wrong, and if so, I apologize.

surrealAmerican

(11,359 posts)
11. Wait a minute: are you saying you are in favor of restrictive voter ID laws?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 06:42 PM
Mar 2016

Perhaps the other disenfranchised voters were simply less well organized. A lot of elderly and poor voters have trouble with this too.

Even if this favors your chosen candidate in the primaries, it won't in the general election.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
19. We have one right here in this thread.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:15 PM
Mar 2016

Some will support literally anything as long as it favors Clinton.

Tanuki

(14,916 posts)
31. No we don't.Stop it.Many of us have been fighting this sort of thing tooth and nail for a long time,
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 09:53 AM
Mar 2016

especially those of us who live in states with Republican-controlled state legislatures. You have no idea, apparently.

dana_b

(11,546 posts)
21. that's bad for everyone
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:32 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary, Bernie - but especially the voters.

The Repubs have done their homework, that's for sure!!

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
22. Folks should be pissed and blaming the system, and not individuals
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:34 PM
Mar 2016

This is terrible. Voter suppression is what it is.

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