2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary's big victory in Ohio has bigger impact than just the delegates.
It suggests that she will do well in neighboring Pennsylvania. PA is big with 189 delegates and combined with other big delegate mid-Atlantic states.. MD (95) and NJ (126) which should also go Hillary, that will further cement Hillary's road to the nomination.
Plus New York (247) which should also go to Hillary in a fairly big way, these 4 states could easily net Hillary another 100 delegates.
That will likely offset any gains Bernie might gain from his remaining favorable states.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)And I think it's possible future turn out for him may be depressed, especially in caucus states which require quite a bit of time investment to participate.
Time will tell. Ours is on the 26th and I am looking forward to me (and my whole family) caucusing for Hillary!
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)If he gets shellacked there like in Cleveland, Cincy, Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis, KC, Boston, Miami, etc., things ain't gonna end well for him in the Commonwealth.
Mike__M
(1,052 posts)does not look good: Both Kasich and Trump, in a four-way race, beat both Clinton and Sanders. Our Democrats are not even the second choice for Ohians.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Hillary will slaughter that vile, ignorant, racist, sexist, megalomaniac.. ie.. Trump.
NEOhiodemocrat
(912 posts)The polling place I worked in Ohio yesterday had more D's voting R than I have ever seen. And I don't buy that Kasich is that popular here. Hear some offhand opinions by the voters that were very anti D.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Thanks for that bit of "offhand" nonsense.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Republicans.
Part of what drives primary voting is having a strong opinion between the candidates. It very well could be that a lot of Democrats just don't see that much difference between Clinton and Sanders.
Mike__M
(1,052 posts)Kasich doesn't seem too inspiring, even if he is the home-state guy.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)More importantly, he was the guy for people who wanted to stop Trump from clinching the nomination. The race would have been over had Trump won.
CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)Including many Democrats.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)It's the next State where Kasich is planting his "Stop Trump" flag
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Makes sense.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)of the Sanders' campaigns rationale going forward. Ohio is a state he should have won if he was going to mount any comeback, and instead he got crushed there.
PA, NY, NJ will be even worse--they're big media markets and closed primaries (registered Democrats are generally not feeling the Bern).
DCBob
(24,689 posts)That does seem to have a big impact.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Florida was a closed primary. We saw the results.
CalvinballPro
(1,019 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)PA might go for Bernie out of sheer spite.
So take your pick.. you are surrounded by Hillary states.
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)But she can have NJ. NY is going for Bernie.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Those are going Hillary as is NY. You are surrounded!
bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)You can keep NJ.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)Clinton was the prohibitive favorite even before OH was called, but the symbolism of her taking a hugely important swing state felt like the final nail in the coffin.
LuvLoogie
(6,988 posts)will return to its GOP garrisons. About 35 to 40 percent of Bernie's base is purely anti-Hillary. A big portion of that are the Right trying to stick it to Hillary. They will begin to agree that she is going to be the nominee and will not have the motivation to stir the pot as their party goes off the rails.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)That was the biggie last night.