DNC Vice Chair: Bernie Sanders "extremely disgraceful" for stating the obvious

[Cheese Sandwich]

https://twitter.com/donnabrazile/status/709582115843805186

Everyone knows independent candidates don't get media coverage or money and risk being a spoiler candidate.

Sanders has repeatedly said these are his reasons for running in the Democratic primary process. And Donna Brazile knows that. Her fake outrage makes it clear that she never was neutral, and the DNC is not neutral, that the DNC favors Hillary Clinton. Which we all knew anyway. It also shows how much the Democrats' political establishment resents the idea of a grass roots progressive challenge.

[TheCowsCameHome]

1. Yeah, right Donna , now go away.

And stay there.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. She should have gone away a long time ago.

[choie]

5. Agree!!

[840high]

82. yes

[Ferd Berfel]

13. Wonder if she supports 300% Loan Sharks

like her boss does?



For that matter - Does Clinton?

[BreakfastClub]

80. She supported Obama in '08 and '12...so does that mean Obama supports loan sharks? Oh no! nt

[PotatoChip]

99. I supported Obama in 08 and 12 too.

He gave us hope. Now it's time for the change. Even if that change does not come in the form of a Sanders presidency, it will come eventually.

Win or lose, Bernie's revolution was never just about this election. It is much more than that. His candidacy alone has already succeeded in planting the seeds of change.

So the current establishment can go ahead and try to squash the hopes and dreams of and entire generation of young people. They may succeed this time, but demographics are not on their side going forward.

[Ferd Berfel]

111. I voted to Big O 3 times

and I extremely disappointed in him

I'd say that his insane push for TPP proves with out a doubt that he in fact DOES support much much worse.

BTW has he come out against the 300% club?

[marew]

93. I am sure they all do!

Birds of a feather!

[still_one]

3. I don't believe that. Sanders made it very clear at the beginning why he ran, because he didn't

want to split the Democratic vote which a third party run would do.

I am not sure where this is coming from, but someone is trying to stir thing up

[Cheese Sandwich]

16. Donna Brazile? She's the DNC vice-Chair. I thought they had to be neutral.

Rules don't apply sometimes.

[still_one]

24. Even if Sanders said something like it, its taken out of context since he has repeatedly said from

the beginning why he is running as a Democrat is so he doesn't split the ticket

I don't buy it, whether it comes from Donna Brazile or someone else.

[Cheese Sandwich]

31. If it is out of context so why is a top Party official using it to attack Bernie Sanders?

And why is it wrong to state an obvious fact that independent candidates don't get media coverage? Everyone knows that. It's just a fact.

[still_one]

49. I have no problem with the fact that belonging to one of the two major party's in the country gives

the respective candidates more media coverage. That is a fact. All I am saying is that wasn't his main reason for running as a Democrat. That does not exclude secondary reasons. They are not mutually exclusive

[Armstead]

114. He did say it

Somewhat more tactfully, but he said ONE OF the reasons he ran is because third party candidates are ignored by the media, and he wanted his message to be part if this election.

[Aerows]

28. Well if someone is trying to "stir things up"

I would suggest you start with the person that is the fucking Vice Chair of the DNC, since she is the one that opened her mouth and said it.

I am becoming more convinced by the day that everybody in DC and on Wall Street just WANTS to hand the presidency over to an insider, lunatic or not, as long as they are the insiders that know where the bodies are buried. That way everything is safe for them.

Hell, Trump better watch his back, too, and I want him no where near the White House.

[marew]

89. Oh, absolutely! nt

[passiveporcupine]

55. I've seen several Hillary supporters try to bring this up here

as a negative for Bernie. She's not the first to say it.

[HooptieWagon]

102. Probably another Brock talking point.

[kristopher]

116. He said it in the Chuck Todd interview

They re-aired it and the Clinton-Matthews interview several times today (Sunday).

[orpupilofnature57]

4. Their a PAC of opportunists who don't give a damn about Progressive Values, He is a Democrat by

Definition & Action, they are because the have the Political Society behind them, a society made up of MSM and the robbers they work for .

[Jefferson23]

6. Fake outrage is right, looks like they are not that confident from their win last night.

Tooooo bad.

[Cheese Sandwich]

11. Timed to influence the March 15 vote possibly.

She made that comment on March 14.

[Jefferson23]

20. I did not know that, how nice of Donna...ugh. The DNC is pathetic. n/t

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

12. Sore winners...

Reminds me of another political party.

[polly7]

7. Recommend! nt.

[Autumn]

8. Well duh. Yeah he ran as a Dem for media coverage and to not be a spoiler

Her concern is certainly noted, and enjoyed.

[Cheese Sandwich]

74. Ya know, I think they would be happy Bernie decided to run in the primary system.

He could have done a Huge amount of damage outside. Donna Brazile's comment strikes me as a somewhat shocking low blow.

I thought DNC officials were supposed to be neutral.

[Autumn]

76. I think they are scared shitless, who says shit like that when they are comfortable and confident?

[Schema Thing]

9. I have an idea, why don't ya'll DNCers push Bernie to break away as an independent?

[aikoaiko]

10. To hell with the DNC leadership. Did they not know he is a Democratic Socialist?

[Lizzie Poppet]

14. Fuck off, Donna.

And shove your phony outrage where the sun don't shine...

[Cheese Sandwich]

67. +1

[Duppers]

85. +2

Why did Al Gore ever hire her?!

[berni_mccoy]

90. Had same reaction.

[Wilms]

15. K&R for exposure.

Go away, Donna.

[JaneyVee]

17. I love DBs political commentary.

[Scootaloo]

26. As much as you love Stormfront's?

Just thought I'd ask.

[Lizzie Poppet]

57. Oh, you din't!

God, I love the "no time out for hides" thing...

[coyote]

79. Ahhh the Hillarity never stops here

Nice one!

[UglyGreed]

18. They did not see him as threat

in the beginning now they regret the miscalculation. It also shows how many people want true change. The cat is out of the bag and I hope this is the start of a new direction for us regular folks.

[Cheese Sandwich]

100. I hope so too.

[mariawr]

101. Really shows how many people want to change the party....

..as he continues all will get a chance to be counted.

[DanTex]

19. She's right. But Bernie has a chance to make it right.

He needs to suspend his campaign, endorse Hillary, and campaign vigorously for her. The sooner the better. If he does that, then all the unpleasant things he's done are forgiven. All that matters now is beating Trump.

[Aerows]

22. Telling Democratic donors and voters

to kiss your ass is good politics?

My God, I am glad you aren't the Vice Chair of the DNC, but if you keep that up, I'm sure you will be going up the ladder quickly!

[DanTex]

25. Who said anything about "kissing ass"? Not sure what you mean.

[Aerows]

29. Feigned confusion

is my favorite look this campaign season.

[DanTex]

44. OK, don't answer then.

[Aerows]

51. I did.

Do you now need the pizzazz of fake, put-out dismay to accessorize?

[desmiller]

36. you know damn well what he meant.

You and your fellow "Hill-extremists" might get a kick out of giving Hillary's rump "lip-service," but it'll be a cold day in hell before Bernie even fall in line for Hillary. Using all that money that "we the people" have donated to him just to help Hillary win?!! Talking about stepping on land mines.

[DanTex]

46. Oh, Bernie will get in line, you'll see. The only question is when.

The sooner the better. Bernie might have some fans who want to see Trump be president, but Bernie is smarter than that.

[Aerows]

86. Now you need the special, fecund fragrance

to finish off your style.

Everyone knows when you are wearing ()D()R.

[Autumn]

23. No he doesn't need to suspend his campaign, endorse Hillary, and campaign vigorously for her.

Bernie doesn't need forgiveness.

[DanTex]

27. If he cares about the future of the country he does. We'll see how much he really

cares about the ordinary people he claims to care about.

[frylock]

33. Oh, that is fucking rich.

[DanTex]

37. It's accurate. He's got one move left: endorse Hillary.

The sooner the better. The only question now is will Hillary be president, or will it be Trump/Cruz.

[frylock]

41. I'm certain that you believe it to be accurate.

[vintx]

38. Right?

[Autumn]

47. He does care, and he will stay in this race till the very end.

[Aerows]

84. I'm glad to see that they are

helping folks to become reintegrated into voting.

[djean111]

30. As if he needs your forgiveness.

What a ridiculous demand. Or wishful thinking, perhaps.

[DanTex]

40. Not mine, the party's. He used the party, now time for him to help us beat Trump.

[bobbobbins01]

32. I say to make it right he should take it all the way to the convention.

And if he doesn't win the nomination, he should run as an independent, because I'll be writing his name in anyway.

[DanTex]

35. Bernie's smart enough to know that running as an Indy would hand Trump the presidency.

All that's left for him to do now is to bring his supporters on board with Hillary.

[Warren DeMontague]

39. Why the hurry? All a "settled" primary will do is give the media an excuse to ignore our party

Entirely.


His chances are certainly slimmer, but a vigorous contest and continued engagement of the millions of democrats in primary states that have not voted yet, will only benefit us.

[DanTex]

43. That's a fair point. A few things.

First, the media is already going to ignore the Dem primary, because everyone already knows it's over.

More important, the sooner he gets on board, the more time he has to rally his supporters in favor of Hillary. Given some of the vitriol that I've seen, I think that is going to require some effort, and the more time he has to do that, the better.

[Warren DeMontague]

48. People dont need 8 months to listen to an endorsement, if it is one that is going to influence them.

He can do it at the convention.

Rather, now would be an excellent time for hillary and her strategists to examine how they can broaden her appeal, particularly with millennials.

[DanTex]

54. I'm thinking along the lines of "time heals all wounds".

And, yes, Hillary should examine how she can broaden her appeal. I think campaigning alongside Bernie would help.

[Warren DeMontague]

56. Shutting things down before a lot of people have had a chance to weigh in, wont help IMHO

We had a bitter, contested primary up to the wire in 08 and hillary's endorsement of obama made a lot difference, to most everyone except a few PUMAs.

And it didnt hurt our turnout in the GE.

I think the calls for bernie to drop out are premature and, frankly, counterproductive.

Hillary supporters should realize they likely have it in the bag, and as such exercise a bit of patience - particularly with the folks they will want to get on board before november.

[DanTex]

70. Maybe you're right.

It's true, the PUMAs in 2008 mostly came around, so maybe the Bernie-or-Busters will come around the same way this year, even if Bernie holds out all the way to the convention. But I'm not sure about that. Frankly, I thought the PUMAs were a bunch of irrational whiners in '08, and I feel the same way about BoBers this time around, but I'm not sure that all irrational whiners will behave the same way when the chips are on the table.

And the other problem we face this year is -- let's face it -- Hillary is not the same caliber of politician as Obama. Obama was once in a generation, Hillary is not. We can't afford to take unnecessary risks.

I think a good time for Bernie to drop out might be after losing NY on April 19. He gets to win a bunch of states in the next couple weeks. Losing a big state is a credible reason for suspending a campaign. And it gives him a few months before the convention to mend fences.

[JonLeibowitz]

59. She can campaign alongside Bernie after she drops out and endorses him.

[Kalidurga]

78. Yeah I don't like that idea. She can say one thing in support then scram.

[Beowulf]

69. My wounds were inflicted

long before Bernie decided to run. Hillary's campaign merely poured salt on them. This isn't 2008. These are superficial wounds or bruised feelings.

What Bernie decides to do will have no effect on what I choose to do. I will support Bernie as best I can unless he declares his campaign is over. At that point I will decide how best to advance the causes most important to me.

For me there are urgent problems facing this country. This election cycle is about discovering if there is enough flexibility in the systems of power to allow a popular movement to begin to address those problems. In other words could someone like Bernie Sanders earn a major party's nomination for president and win the general election. Right now, it's not looking good. Hillary is a nonstarter. She is from the very power structures that will resist any significant change. For the problems the 99% face are the very sources of the elites' power and wealth. A Hillary presidency only allows the elite to grow even more powerful.

So spare me the calls to get in line. I can see where that line goes and it is no where I want to be.

[Art_from_Ark]

83. Hear hear!

[Buns_of_Fire]

88. Forgiveness?

Anyone who thinks Bernie has done "unpleasant things" hasn't been paying attention to Caligula-in-Waiting over there.

[roody]

115. Is this a joke?

[Aerows]

21. Good to know

that if I just didn't give a fuck about the Democratic party and the constituents the Vice Chair purports to represent, I too, could be the DNC Vice Chair.

I guess I'll just have to give less a fuck about Democratic party members in the future, and then I'm on my way!

Seriously - a call for neutrality and to support the Democratic Party.

Two hours later, then the direct DNC Vice Chair tells us to kiss her ass.

Some tone-deaf shit is going on. I am a damn Democrat, but statements like this make me thing it isn't me that is the problem - the Democratic party is the problem.

[Cheese Sandwich]

73. LOLs

Oh my.

By the way she said that comment on March 14, the day before that bunch of states voted.

[Warren DeMontague]

34. More disgraceful than the DNC chair working w/sheldon adelson to put med. marijuana users in jail?

I guess my disgrace-o-meter must be off.

[Karma13612]

42. Donna, get over it. I actually used to admire you. Now I see that the DNC is more

important to you than the 99%.

Well, it is going to get pretty bad when people leave the Democratic party in droves, to support Bernie Sanders and other progressives.

Buh Bye!

[cosmicone]

45. Sanders apologists in full force

1. Sanders didn't say anything
2. If he said something it was taken out of context
3. He had every right to say it and he is being honest
4. It is a conspiracy that this story is being leaked
5. In reality, Hillary said it.
6. If Hillary didn't say it, she said something similar.
7. It is just a hit peace by a Clinton supporter.

[Cheese Sandwich]

62. That's not what is happening here at all. It's a "neutral" DNC official attacking Sanders for

stating an obvious fact that everyone in America knows is true.

Third party candidates don't get anywhere.

[merrily]

50. Better if he ran third party or lied? Dems and the GOP go out of their way to

make it as hard as possible for third parties. Sorry, you can't have it every which way.

Besides, Brazile is not exactly objective about Third Way or the Clintons.

What really is extremely disgraceful? An officer of the DNC talking that way about someone running as a Dem.

[Cheese Sandwich]

95. Seems to be a theme: Pretend to be neutral so you can hold a position of trust

We see that theme repeated from the top of the DNC, to the big media, to bloggers, and all the way down here with members of DU.

Bernie supporters don't seem to do that as much. Tulsi Gabbard resigned because she wanted to take sides.

[merrily]

98. And then, there were the DUers who pretended to be supporters of Bernie. That was fun.

Pointless, because they weren't very good at pretending, but still fun to watch.

[SusanCalvin]

52. It's tough being an honest politician... nt

[Impedimentus]

53. Donna, DWS told you to say it, didn't she?

I pay more attention the seeds the birds eat in the bird feeder than I do to Donna or Deb.

[azretired]

58. Donna Brazile is, from personal experience, an expert on disgrace

Wasn't she the genius who led Gore's campaign to defeat by Bush 2?

[Cheese Sandwich]

61. Gore did win the popular vote.

I wouldn't hit her with that. But her treatment toward Bernie Sanders is disgraceful.

[AzDar]

60. More verbal diarrhea from the Establishment...

[Cheese Sandwich]

121. +1 this

[riversedge]

63. REC

[Cheese Sandwich]

64. lols

[workinclasszero]

65. So....

What does Bernie have in mind after Hillary wins the nomination and is the democratic candidate for prez?

[Cheese Sandwich]

66. He said he's supporting the nominee.

A certain amount of his voters are bound to defect though.

[elljay]

77. And hopefully

his support will be conditioned on Hillary's continuing her recent conversion to the more liberal side of the party.

[Marr]

68. If the DNC's goal is to break the Democratic Party up into little pieces, they're doing

a wonderful job of it.

The left has felt ignored by the party establishment for a long time-- and for good reason. But that establishment is stepping way outside the boundaries in this campaign. It's just too in-your-face, and there's going to be a cost.

[Cheese Sandwich]

71. They don't seem to worry about that at all.

Maybe they really don't need us.

[HooptieWagon]

104. Yep.

[Jenny_92808]

72. It's disgraceful that MSM blacks out coverage of Bernie

Mainstream Media has met its maker

"The Eulogy
About your sudden passing, I've only just learned
You wore yourself thin, taking your last wrong turn.
Your act caught up to you as we all knew it would
I'd tell you I'm sorry if only I could.
So I write these last words, to put to rest
These things I never got off my chest.
I remember when we first met,
My life turned on your every breath,
But then my feelings started to change,
You talked about war as if it were a game.
Still some were fond of you--who don't question or argue.
And I secretly promised to never be like you.
It's sad, one does not leave a funeral the way that one enters,
The mind gets consumed with death, but this one quite differs.
I speak to you now because there are no other takers,
To proclaim that Mainstream Media has met it's maker."
Taken from RT News.

[Betty Karlson]

75. Cry me a river Donna - even though the DNC has burned the bridge to get over it.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

81. It's not at all disgraceful to real people.

We wanted him to run; he did, as a Democrat. Like we wanted him to.

[Skwmom]

87. A closed primary coming up...

[kristopher]

117. Arizona?

That isn't a primary - it's a presidential preference election.

They do have a primary, but it's later in the year and only for down ballot state races. The "primary" is open registration. The PPE is closed.

[seabeyond]

91. It is disgraceful. When he thought he had a chance he took ownership of his "democratic" self,

excusing the hypocrisy of running in the Democratic party, after past comments about the party. Now, he is all this. Yes, to take and not give, then trash in disgusting.

[marew]

92. Why are Wasserman Schultz and Brazile so unprofessional in their DNC responsibilities?

They know very well Hillary is a DINO! She may call herself a Democrat but that does not make her one. If I call myself a tree, does that make me a tree?

Remember Hillary's gratuitous self-pitying comment about being 'dead broke"! Turns out in 1999, they bought a five-bedroom home in Chappaqua, N.Y., for $1.7 million. In December 2000, just as they were leaving the White House, they bought a seven-bedroom house near Embassy Row in Washington, D.C. The price was $2.85 million. It was, is, and always will be about her. She knew very well of the millions and millions she and Bill could and did make in speeches and numerous other activities.

The "dead broke" comment, unbeknownst to her, gave us a look into her true character. She had no concept, no depth, of what that comment in just a few words revealed to us all about her and her core values.

But lets get beyond labels here. To vote for anyone simply because of what they call themselves is short-sighted and dangerous. What I look for is the person who shares my values and who has supported those same values consistently and over time.

Wasserman Schultz (she has been working ferociously to gut new rules intended to rein in predatory payday lending- a real Democrat herself?- hardly!) and Brazile know very well Hillary is a badly flawed candidate and this is exactly why they feel a compulsion to disparage Bernie. They have become part of the corporate elite which rarely plays fair with the American people.

[HooptieWagon]

106. They are well-paid to protect corporate interests.

Being 'fair' to populist rebellions isn't in their job description.

[marew]

110. Ding! Ding Ding!

Absolutely correct!

You win the "truthiness" award today!

[demwing]

94. Doesn't Donna work as a Media Talking Head?

so everyday, everything she does, is done with media coverage in mind?

We are sick of you Donna Brazile, you and every other belt way bullshit artist.

[Cheese Sandwich]

97. She holds two major positions of trust and power by pretending to be neutral

[ViseGrip]

96. our media has NEVER covered third party candidates. only third wayers

He looked at everything....on running as indy or dem. there is no structure, and no media coverage. but they denied him anyway. so I will be the one to deny, next.

[onecaliberal]

103. What more can they possibly do to tell folks they don't want our votes?

Surely no one thinks they can win the election without those independents. There are MORE of them than democrats or republicans. Someone should tell her surrogates to shut the fuck up already. They alienate more people by the day, and if they think those folks are afraid of president trump than they are even dumber than I think they are.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

105. I'm ever so impressed with Hillary's disdain and refusal of media coverage...oh wait.

Well, maybe, she'll start turning down photo ops....someday.

[stone space]

107. Meh...I don't see a problem here.

Debs did pretty good when he got a million votes campaigning from his prison cell (despite being unable to vote for himself due to felony disenfranchisement), but the Socialist Party USA (with which the Iowa Socialist Party was affiliated with back when I was a member) really didn't get much media, either, so we probably weren't the optimal choice for a candidate serious about winning.

Democrats get better media coverage than we ever did. Not Trump level media coverage, of course, but still much, much better media coverage than the SPUSA ever did.

I have no sore feelings over his decision, and I don't personally know anybody who does.

[LanternWaste]

108. His triangulation was efficient and effective, and very politically expedient.

His triangulation was efficient and effective, and very politically expedient, regardless of its sincerity.

[Uncle Joe]

109. Donna you might claim to be "neutral" on CNN but this kind of tweet doesn't reflect that.

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Bernie stated an obvious political fact of realty in modern day American politics, if you're not a member of the two major political parties, your exposure to the nation via debates and television is hugely limited, unless you're a billionaire along the lines of Perot.

People claim that Bernie's "pie in the sky" policy proposals aren't based in reality and yet when he candidly states his deliberations on how he decided to run using sound logic, you condemn him for it.

I have no doubt you would be giving him hell if Bernie ran as an Independent siphoning precious votes away from the Democratic Party instead of invigorating it and ensuring a Republican win in November.

Thanks for the thread, Cheese Sandwich.

[Cheese Sandwich]

112. The 2 big political parties have an institutional monopoly on the political process.

They are technically private organizations, but they have a de facto semi-governmental role as gatekeepers of the political process. In some cases their advantages are even written into law.

Bernie said it right, and he said it honestly. It's a choice an independent candidate has to make.

It's so dishonest for Party officials pretend like it's offensive to acknowledge these realities.

thank you.

[Armstead]

113. I guess she prefers typical lying politicians

She would have preferred him to be dishonest and say hechad a conversion on the road to Damascus or something.

[Cheese Sandwich]

120. Right as is if "being a Democrat" is some spiritual condition

Democrats range from Zell Miller to Michael Bloomberg approximately. Bernie told the truth. Donna B.'s comment was totally uncalled for.

[Samantha]

118. It is amazing how things get deliberately distorted

Chuck Todd asked him why he chose to run as a Democrat and made a small joke, saying "You never would have had me on your show if I hadn't." He did also say he didn't have the money to self-finance, he wasn't a billionaire. I don't see anything disgraceful at all about his answer. He was just honest.

Sam

[Seeinghope]

119. DISGRACEFUL!!!!!!

[Cheese Sandwich]

122. CNN just now presenting Donna Brazile as neutral