2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWomen are not smiling at Joe Scarborough’s tired advice for Hillary Clinton
Smile. You just had a big night.
Those words were tweeted by Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough on Tuesday night during Hillary Clintons speech after the Democratic front-runner for the presidential nomination won in big states such as Florida, North Carolina and Ohio. A viral lightning rod, his message lit up Twitter.
The response from women on Twitter was, well, not so happy. Frown. You just had a big night of proving you're a dope, tech journalist Kara Swisher wrote. Way to condescend to a potential future world leader, wrote another. Plenty of women did respond with smiles -- in photos and GIFS that ranged from creepy toothy clowns to "Broad City's" Ilana Glazer and Abbi Jacobson turning up the corners of their mouths with their fingers. Then on Wednesday, Samantha Bee, the "Daily Show" alum and host of Full Frontal with Samantha Bee, replied with a tweet of herself frowning and added her own hashtag, saying Ladies, its very important that you #SmileForJoe.
In a series of tweets Wednesday, Scarborough responded on Twitter, saying "we've called @BernieSanders grumpy for a year. @HillaryClinton is tough as hell. She doesn't need this fake outrage." In yet another tweet, he wrote, "we've hammered all candidates on their style and substance. We try to hold all candidates to the same standard." In reply to a woman who said he crossed a line, Scarborough wrote that "I don't look at HRC as a woman anymore than I did Thatcher. I look at her as a tough candidate who can handle it."
But the outrage appeared to be real. And the gender biases we ascribe to women leaders certainly are. Being told to "smile" may be the ultimate nails-on-the-chalkboard comment for women, yet it's also illustrative of an impossible predicament female leaders face in their jobs.
Study after study has confirmed what's known as the "double bind" problem female leaders confront, in which they're expected to act like our stereotypical idea of a leader -- bold, serious, tough, assertive. Yet they're often held back when those don't conform with the gender norms we associate with women, such as being selfless and agreeable. It's a big reason that underpins why women don't as frequently negotiate on their own behalf, ask for a promotion or speak up in meetings.
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whathehell
(29,067 posts)I guess, the way whites used to prefer black people.
It's interesting how many of the same stereotypes applied to them were (and often still are) applied to females -- Dumb..docile..eager
to please -- The character traits of good subordinates.
Like angry blacks, angry women make their overlords nervous.
question everything
(47,470 posts)You are facing an ecstatic crowd so you join their enthusiasm with a raised voice. Oh, but they don't like her "shouting." Sanders? Trump? Oh they can shout as much as they can.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)As a Bernie supporter, there are times I've also watched him and thought "dial it back a little dude" or he kind of jumps back into his stump speech and I think "mix it up a little man".
Shouting a line here and there for effect is great. Its one of those "less is more" things. She gets into a groove sometimes and just keeps shouting as if she forgot she is standing in front of a microphone. She should stop doing that.
But I also realize Barack Obama is a hard act to follow for any candidate and perhaps I've been spoiled by his superior public speaking abilities.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)They need to get over it. Women are as entitled to their anger as men are to their tears.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)NWCorona
(8,541 posts)Not surprising tho
bigtree
(85,988 posts)Samantha Bee Mocks Scarboroughs Advice to Hillary by Getting Women to #SmileForJoe http://bit.ly/22kOxO4