2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumExperienced doesn't mean good
I see this a lot about Clinton's so-called qualifications.
"She's just so experienced."
Yeah, but you have to read into that statement quite a bit. Heroin addicts are experienced at heroin. Are they good judges of what's happening there? Not necessarily. A drunk driver who grazes tons of parked cars is experienced at it. Doesn't mean I want him to drive my Uber.
And so it is with Clinton. "She's so experienced!"
Well, where are we on that? Iraq, Libya, Honduras, the rise of Putin, the rise of ISIS, North Korea going insane, the Israeli government holding up the biggest middle finger ever.
What, exactly, about her experience am I supposed to be going, "Oh, no, she should totally be in charge."
Because her "experience" looks like a string of fuck ups to me.
I'm not saying she's solely responsible for the wretched foreign policy mess that was Obama's first term. I am saying, Sec. Kerry and Obama seem to be doing a whole lot better all of a sudden.
So, why is her "experience" super important?
bkkyosemite
(5,792 posts)Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)casperthegm
(643 posts)The list, which I've posted numerous times, of her epic failures and non-Democratic positions is lengthy to say the least. What good is experience if your judgement is poor?
Hell Hath No Fury
(16,327 posts)One you either have or don't have, one you can acquire.
I know which one I find more compelling.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)it's an illustration of why we DON'T want her in the WH.
Prism
(5,815 posts)They tout her experience. Ok, but it's had shitty results.
She's withstood right-wing attacks! Ok, but sometimes those attacks are valid (see:her hilarious fuck-you e-mail situation).
Like, outside of First Woman! trophy, and Establishment blue shirt-ism, I don't get why I'm supposed to be like, "Oh, no, your total incompetence at everything you do is fine."
I really don't get it. Christ, she's the "woman candidate" and she put abortion rights up for grabs. And her supporters are apologizing for it.
Just, what?
I don't understand any liberal supporting her except for the reasons above.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)It's because the neo-liberal takeover of the party has co-opted and evolved the terms "liberal" to mean something different.
That's okay, as long as we understand that language evolves, and so do political parties. And, of course, along with that evolution of party is a shift in the people within that party, and what they support.
The Democratic Party has been in the process of purging old stakeholders who won't be converted for quite some time now.
Antagonistic as you are, I like you. Don't do dick one word Sid posts. Be cool.
Welcome back, though. Lots of five-hide banning were shitty, and I include you among them.
trumad
(41,692 posts)Thanks for the welcome back though. I'm trying to be nicer.
Prism
(5,815 posts)You're not trumad if youre nice.
Just don't be one-word dick. Those people suck.
trumad
(41,692 posts)And on the other you are telling me not to be a dick.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)The planet can't wait for HRC's minuscule "incremental plans" for the coming climate catastrophe.
Within 10 years it's going to be starting to be upon us.