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B2G

(9,766 posts)
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:33 PM Mar 2016

Please explain the rush to give this to Hillary

It's just March. Half of the states haven't even voted yet. This is not a Rubio situation at all.

All this is doing is making people dig their heels in and piss them off. People who's vote you will need should eventually win the nomination.

Key word here is "win", which she hasn't done yet.

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Please explain the rush to give this to Hillary (Original Post) B2G Mar 2016 OP
Well, she has exhausted her "firewall" by now, meaning that from here on, it's down-Hill... Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #1
Yup! zappaman Mar 2016 #5
Why don't you go and UglyGreed Mar 2016 #9
OK! zappaman Mar 2016 #20
Here this may help you UglyGreed Mar 2016 #23
ok! zappaman Mar 2016 #27
Betty! Autumn Mar 2016 #11
Autumn! Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #36
There is no rush to give anything to Hillary. MohRokTah Mar 2016 #2
Perfect! NurseJackie Mar 2016 #6
Absolutely agreed rock Mar 2016 #14
She said that? democrattotheend Mar 2016 #26
In 10 out of 10 national polls regarding favorability, Hillary Clinton has negative favorability RATM435 Mar 2016 #19
They are afraid she will be more likely to lose as time passes. arcane1 Mar 2016 #3
The media has already chosen a winner, and it is HRC. eom guillaumeb Mar 2016 #4
You know, I agree. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #7
They key word is winning BainsBane Mar 2016 #8
Their problem is the longer Hillary has to campaign she has a tendency to fuck up Autumn Mar 2016 #10
She fucked up just about every day before this past Tuesday BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #15
Yeah she had a rough week and rougher to come, thats why everyone from Obama on down Autumn Mar 2016 #17
When do fawning low-information voters care? R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #32
fear Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #12
I like that sentence, "fear of the people taking power back". ladjf Mar 2016 #31
The same entitled attitude that's pervaded her campaign from day one whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #13
The status-quo-powers-that-be have decided she's the one - if voters mattered... polichick Mar 2016 #16
It is wrong to call on Sanders to quit, and it's dumb geek tragedy Mar 2016 #18
It's nothing new. Just a rewording of "Resistance is futile". Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #21
Ironically, resistance is futile for corporate Dems. Just like GOP, corporatista Dems will be done yurbud Mar 2016 #24
How would she get airtime until after primaries if she truly had it sewn up? yurbud Mar 2016 #22
Sanders is not statistically irrelevant!!! LanternWaste Mar 2016 #25
Count me in the pissed off bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #28
I'm thinking lazyness notadmblnd Mar 2016 #29
Everybody gets to vote if they are registered. Nobody can stop them. Bernie has no path to the upaloopa Mar 2016 #30
Question serbbral Mar 2016 #33
I actually like that they're firing us up. Their negativity does make us dig in riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #34
Because she is trouncing Sanders. Now it's like shooting fish in a barrel. Lil Missy Mar 2016 #35
 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
1. Well, she has exhausted her "firewall" by now, meaning that from here on, it's down-Hill...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:34 PM
Mar 2016

in more ways than one.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
2. There is no rush to give anything to Hillary.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:35 PM
Mar 2016

She won it. It's over. Delusional exercises in futility can still continue, but we have our nominee.

Sanders can stay in as long as he wants, but the longer he does so the more he'll be compared to the likes of Huckabee and Kucinich.

rock

(13,218 posts)
14. Absolutely agreed
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:47 PM
Mar 2016

I believe the BS supporters are suffering from paranoia. Hillary has stated (paraphrase): If he stays in of not, it's his decision. I certainly want him to stay in so as not ruin the statistical data that we will be able to collect.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
26. She said that?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:10 PM
Mar 2016

What was the actual quote?

As far as I know, she has not called for him to drop out, and she would be pretty damn stupid if she did.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
3. They are afraid she will be more likely to lose as time passes.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:36 PM
Mar 2016

Plus, she wouldn't have to defend herself against progressive ideals and pretend to share them. It would all be "But I'm not a republican! Fear President Trump!" instead of convincing us why we should vote for her.

mountain grammy

(26,605 posts)
7. You know, I agree.
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:40 PM
Mar 2016

Can't we stop the big influence from the party big wigs and let the rank and file democrats weigh in on this election? We've been shut down for a while now, us liberals, the grassroots and heart and soul of the party of FDR and JFK. I don't think a vigorous and honest primary will hurt us, but interference in the process probably will.

BainsBane

(53,026 posts)
8. They key word is winning
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:41 PM
Mar 2016

and she is doing that handily. Vote for whoever you like. Do whatever you want. It doesn't change the reality.
The party now treats Hillary as the likely, even presumptive nominee. No one is forcing you to agree to it. At some point you'll decide who you want to support in the general election, and that again will be entirely up to you.

What you have no right to do is enforce how others think, vote, or talk about the election. No one is stopping you from voting however you please, and you have no right to control what others post about this election. You have your rights. We have ours. End of story.

Autumn

(45,012 posts)
10. Their problem is the longer Hillary has to campaign she has a tendency to fuck up
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:43 PM
Mar 2016

so if they can just avoid the campaign she's a shoo in.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
15. She fucked up just about every day before this past Tuesday
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:52 PM
Mar 2016

And she still won all the primaries. I don't think Hillary's supporters care what she does.

Autumn

(45,012 posts)
17. Yeah she had a rough week and rougher to come, thats why everyone from Obama on down
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:55 PM
Mar 2016

thinks we need to get behind her.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
31. I like that sentence, "fear of the people taking power back".
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:17 PM
Mar 2016

Domination if first and foremost what their crazy, rich, sadistic and megalomaniacs crave. With
total Domination, all other selfish perks are available to them.


"fear of the people taking power back". That sums it up.

thanks.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
16. The status-quo-powers-that-be have decided she's the one - if voters mattered...
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:54 PM
Mar 2016

the game wouldn't be rigged every which way - it wouldn't be a game at all.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. It is wrong to call on Sanders to quit, and it's dumb
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:56 PM
Mar 2016

When one candidate has won a majority of pledged delegates, the other candidate will suspend their campaign and endorse the winner.

Not until then.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
24. Ironically, resistance is futile for corporate Dems. Just like GOP, corporatista Dems will be done
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:09 PM
Mar 2016

in by demographics.

Millennials are far to the left of the DLCers, and it's not just ideological: they have been on the receiving end of corrupt neoliberal policies like K-12 education reform and changing college financial aid from mostly grants to mostly loans.

If Hillary wins, she will be like the last Whig president.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
22. How would she get airtime until after primaries if she truly had it sewn up?
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:06 PM
Mar 2016

Conflict and contest are news.

Whatever she'd be doing without an opponent could legitimately be declared not especially newsworthy.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
25. Sanders is not statistically irrelevant!!!
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:09 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders is not statistically irrelevant!!!

That's a great bumper-sticker.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
29. I'm thinking lazyness
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:16 PM
Mar 2016

Her supporters believe that she is entitled to the position and they just don't want to do the hard work necessary to make her earn it. Just like they don't want to work hard for Single Payer healthcare. Just like they don't want to work hard to expand Social Security. Just like they don't want to work hard to reform prisons. Just like they don't want to work hard to rein Wall Street in. Just like they don't want to work hard rebuilding this Nations infrastructure.

They're lazy and only want to do the minimum work necessary to keep things the same.

Change is hard work

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
30. Everybody gets to vote if they are registered. Nobody can stop them. Bernie has no path to the
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:17 PM
Mar 2016

nomination. The math is against him.

Hillary and Trump have pivoted to the general. It would be foolish for Hillary to not do that. We have to win in November.

This is no longer about Bernie.

I am sure you will dig in your heels but nobody is making you do anything. Take responsibility for yourself and stop this constant blaming the media and Hillary and the DNC and whoever the hell else.


The voters in the primaries so far have decided this no body else has!

serbbral

(260 posts)
33. Question
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:21 PM
Mar 2016

There is just one thing I do not get. Why is it that the voter/supporter of any candidate be influenced or be so angry at another voter/supporter to the point that they will not vote for a certain candidate. I mean, it is not like the CANDIDATE is saying things to piss the voter/supporter off. Why let some other citizen like yourself control you? I just don't get it. Am I the only one who feels this way? If I like a candidate or if I know a certain candidate will do a better job than the other candidate, I am not going to let YOU or anyone else stop me from supporting that candidate just because you are making me mad. It makes it seem as if people cannot think for themselves or just so gullible.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
34. I actually like that they're firing us up. Their negativity does make us dig in
Thu Mar 17, 2016, 03:32 PM
Mar 2016

I want Bernie's message out there til the convention and will work hard to ensure that.

So yeah, keep pissing on us. It's only making it tougher for their gal Hillary to pivot to the GE.



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