2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDemocrats must face the reality of Hillary's unelectability or face doomsday.
Please read this article over at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/bernie-sanders-defeat-donald-trump-_b_9467074.html
Some excerpts;
To say that the majority of Americans have an unfavorable view of Clinton isnt hyperbole; its backed up by poll numbers. Ive been criticized for being unfair to Clinton, but my analysis is always backed up by various facts, including the fact 67% of Americans according to Quinnipiac find Hillary Clinton not honest and trustworthy.
Yes, the same polls that bolstered Clintons inevitability are also the same polls that show Bernie Sanders is the superior Democratic nominee in November.
However, if Hillary Clinton becomes nominee, America is looking at a Trump presidency. Trump will make the FBI investigation, and its legal consequences, a primary focus of every debate. Hell be relentless, and the GOP attack machine will make Clintons trustworthiness issues, negative favorability ratings, and previous scandals the basis of their campaign. The polls show that Americans in aggregate dont trust Hillary Clinton, and while voters dont trust Donald Trump either, his brand is based upon arrogance.
Certain people like Trump because hes arrogant, and once he tones down his rhetoric and behavior to become more palatable to voters in a general election, his donations to Clintons foundation and Senate runs will be a liability for Democrats. He can claim that he bribed Clinton, and that he bribed other Democrats, and hell be able to present himself as the only presidential candidate not linked to an FBI investigation.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)Is that kook still allowed to run loose?
HoosierRadical
(390 posts)Bernie secures the nomination, because Hillary will be defeated in the general.
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)will be the first time.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)The moron predicted Clinton would come in third in Iowa and Bernie would sweep the South.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)He needs to find a real job.
spyker29
(89 posts)Nominate someone that can't beat her?
HoosierRadical
(390 posts)and save the party and the nation from a Trump presidency.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)socialist he claims to be. Wait until the billion dollars worth of ads saying "SOCIALIST COMMUNIST MASSIVE TAX AND SPENDER." They'd eat Bernie's ass for breakfast.
HoosierRadical
(390 posts)Or having the infamous transcripts of her Goldman Sachs speeches (do you really think Ted Cruz doesn't have access to those transcripts?) Not to mention questionable donations to the Clinton foundation. Aren't you sick of the corporatists within the party?
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)anotherproletariat
(1,446 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)Polling shows that a majority of people are no longer afraid of the designation "socialist."
That era is over. Yeah, Trump may scare the people who already support him, but no votes will be lost for Bernie by that attack.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)And HA Goodman FUD at that.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)The argument is utter fail. Nobody's buying it.
HoosierRadical
(390 posts)I'm just glad that the upcoming states have the opportunity to right the ship.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)This is kind of fun!
LexVegas
(6,060 posts)rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)Just silliness.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)the guy she's currently using to mop the electoral floor?
"You're a horrible candidate! Please stop beating us by three hundred and fifty delegates!"
HoosierRadical
(390 posts)most obnoxious donors in the fall, if the party doesn't wise up. And let's say, she did manage to pull out a victory (highly doubtful, especially after she is indicted) I guarantee you she will get the US involve in another war, she will cut social security, and bend over backwards to get along with the GOP. She is not a fighter, unless it is for herself.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)because those epic disasters never happened either? Ooh maybe she'll cut social security while eating baby Jesus, that would just seal the deal right there.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)Or indictment.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Is it really any surprise this guy used to be a fantasy author?
DanTex
(20,709 posts)grossproffit
(5,591 posts)Squinch
(50,949 posts)one_voice
(20,043 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)and driven by delegate results.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)griffi94
(3,733 posts)Bernie would be the best president ever if he could only get the most votes. Lol
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)HA HA Goodman becomes a source of hope
doc03
(35,328 posts)he going to win the general election?
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Or, to put it more simply, I have faced that reality.