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Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:24 AM

Bernie handling Maddow!

They all think they are smarter than he is. Esp. Toad. But he handles them and answers their skewed questions in a way that gets his message out instead of their bias. I love it. He's the smartest guy in Congress.

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Reply Bernie handling Maddow! (Original post)
snowy owl Mar 2016 OP
upaloopa Mar 2016 #1
snowy owl Mar 2016 #2
Squinch Mar 2016 #54
rhett o rick Mar 2016 #4
Squinch Mar 2016 #36
boston bean Mar 2016 #41
rhett o rick Mar 2016 #49
Squinch Mar 2016 #53
rhett o rick Mar 2016 #55
Squinch Mar 2016 #56
rhett o rick Mar 2016 #57
Squinch Mar 2016 #58
rhett o rick Mar 2016 #59
Squinch Mar 2016 #60
jillan Mar 2016 #6
DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #17
72DejaVu Mar 2016 #37
Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #51
napi21 Mar 2016 #3
asuhornets Mar 2016 #10
Gwhittey Mar 2016 #11
asuhornets Mar 2016 #13
DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #18
uponit7771 Mar 2016 #19
Silver_Witch Mar 2016 #52
napi21 Mar 2016 #15
uponit7771 Mar 2016 #20
napi21 Mar 2016 #21
pdsimdars Mar 2016 #61
snowy owl Mar 2016 #23
truedelphi Mar 2016 #29
Hiraeth Mar 2016 #5
truedelphi Mar 2016 #30
msongs Mar 2016 #7
NowSam Mar 2016 #8
Shandris Mar 2016 #22
senz Mar 2016 #25
BeanMusical Mar 2016 #9
sheshe2 Mar 2016 #12
Tom Rinaldo Mar 2016 #14
senz Mar 2016 #26
NCTraveler Mar 2016 #16
snowy owl Mar 2016 #24
senz Mar 2016 #27
senz Mar 2016 #28
NCTraveler Mar 2016 #31
senz Mar 2016 #33
NCTraveler Mar 2016 #35
snowy owl Mar 2016 #38
senz Mar 2016 #40
Skid Rogue Mar 2016 #32
senz Mar 2016 #34
snowy owl Mar 2016 #39
pdsimdars Mar 2016 #62
Skid Rogue Mar 2016 #42
ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #46
Skid Rogue Mar 2016 #47
Post removed Mar 2016 #48
Skid Rogue Mar 2016 #50
pdsimdars Mar 2016 #63
snowy owl Mar 2016 #65
pdsimdars Mar 2016 #66
LisaM Mar 2016 #68
pdsimdars Mar 2016 #64
silvershadow Mar 2016 #43
Skid Rogue Mar 2016 #44
silvershadow Mar 2016 #45
snowy owl Mar 2016 #67

Response to snowy owl (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:30 AM

1. Yep he is so smart he is going to get all those Congress critters who endorced Hillary to flip to

him because "Bernie"!

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:34 AM

2. He's an agent of change. YOU don't get it.

He will stay in and keep messaging until the last minute. You think like Hillary who just wants to win. He wants change. And boy has he changed Hillary! See, you have to be smart like Bernie.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:46 AM

54. Exactly what has he done in his decades in Congress to facilitate that change?

And don't give me the bullshit about him being the "rider king." Look up all those riders. The vast majority of them were statements that people shouldn't do things that were already illegal. That's why no one minded that they got attached to their bills. They were meaningless.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:51 AM

4. We side with the 99% who do you side with? Goldman-Sachs? Do you think they will

 

like you? They won't, they don't love you. Sorry.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:36 PM

36. And yet somehow your 99% doesn't add up to a majority. Funny that.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #36)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 10:21 PM

41. Haha!!

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Response to Squinch (Reply #36)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:22 AM

49. The corporation know full well the value of propaganda. Sooner or later you will harm

 

enough people that we will fight back against the Rich and Super-Rich that are looting the lower classes while you fiddle.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #49)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:41 AM

53. Sooner or later you will learn two things: 1) what constitutes a majority and

2)the fact that your opinion, strongly stated, does not equal truth.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #53)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:51 AM

55. The truth is plain to see. Clinton accepts money and huge money from the Ruling Class

 

to amass a huge fortune and power. That's the truth. She lies to the people while she meets with the Ruling Class in secret. That's the truth. She betrayed us by bowing down to Bush, repeating his lies before the Senate to show that she was tough. Hundreds of thousands died, millions of lives were ruined, but she made friends with the MIC and got super wealthy. That's the truth. Her recent revelation about how she felt about AIDS and HIV was not a surprise. She fought against same sex marriage for a long time and is still cold hearted about the use of medical marijuana. She supports tough drug laws that have filled our prisons and she supports Prisons For Profits. She choose fracking for profits over the drinking water of us peons. Corporate profits come before the environment. And as you know money can buy propaganda and propaganda is very successful. How can you turn your back on the 50,000,000 Americans living in poverty? Goldman-Sachs can.

You have to choose sides in this class war and I warn you, the Aristocracy doesn't really love you.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #55)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 08:53 AM

56. Well, rhett, you get on that "plane" and ride! Godspeed. The rest of us will be voting Hillary into

the white house.

Thanks for all your warnings. But again, your opinion doesn't really follow from the facts. I know you won't let that bother you, though. So have a nice flight.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #56)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:01 AM

57. And you will be dancing in the streets as Goldman-Sachs continues to loot our resources.

 

While you celebrate the $50,000,000 graft amassed by Clinton you ignore the 50,000,000 Americans living in poverty. Maybe you can give them some cake.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #57)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:10 AM

58. Sure rhett! Everyone who disagrees with you is the devil. We get your drift. Your very monotonous,

fact-free drift.

By the way, what did Bernie do in his decades in Congress to make life better for Americans living in poverty? I'm not talking about naming post offices, or getting riders put onto bills that say that people shouldn't do things that are already illegal.

Did you hear about Hillary's role in getting insurance for millions of poor kids? Or her work with the Southern Poverty Law Center? Or the way she helped all those National Guard folks? Wow! She really has had an effect!

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Response to Squinch (Reply #58)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:17 AM

59. You've choosen sides in this class war and it is not the side of the People.

 

Is there any level of poverty that would make you choose to not align with the Wealthy?

Maybe you really secretly support the privatization of SS and don't give a crap about the fact that health care is horrible here.

Let them eat cake. Long live the Clinton Aristocracy.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #59)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:22 AM

60. Is this one of those refrigerator sets where you mix up the words? Does it not have words to

talk about the fact that Bernie has never done anything for the poor while Hillary has done tons?

I'm sure you will respond with some more fact-free nonsensical Berniebargle, which really gets very boring, and is just so much sturm and drang about a candidate who has already lost.

So I'll wish you a good day.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:07 AM

6. IF she won a state by 10 -> 30 pts & the SDs of that state endorSed Senator Sanders- wouldn't you

think the SDs should represent the voters of their state by endorsing the candidate that won that state?

It's really not that complicated to understand.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:28 PM

17. You can't give the man a break, can you? You won't even let him be called intelligent without

 

...challenge.

Thank you. It's useful and time-saving to make such an easy identification.

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Response to DisgustipatedinCA (Reply #17)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:40 PM

37. Calling him intelligent is giving him a well deserved compliment

Proclaiming him The. Smartest. Guy. Evah! is engaging in a cult of personality.

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Response to upaloopa (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:36 AM

51. The Support of Congress Critters

 

is something to be proud of? The support of people many of who are go right along with the Corporatization of America.

I don't think Bernie hopes to flip anyone...I think he knows the battle he is in and the road he has to travel.

I am right there with him - traveling and enjoying the ride.

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Response to snowy owl (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:34 AM

3. Bernie did great on Rachel's show.

Actually, I think Rachel did well too. The only think she asked, several times, was the question about super delegates. I think the was she handled it was very good because she wanted to make sure she wasn't misinterpreting his position. I must admit, he surprised me some. I never thought of approaching the SD's on the basis of % of the win in their state. I like it, and I hope it works.

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Response to napi21 (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:55 AM

10. But, but...

Bernie and his supporters hated the notion of super-delegates. What brought about this change?

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Response to asuhornets (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 02:40 AM

11. Relay

 

You do understand nothing changed? People still hate SD but are you suppose to ignore something you don't like hoping it magically goes away? That explains a lot about you

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Response to Gwhittey (Reply #11)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:50 AM

13. Actually it says alot..

about you and Bernie. Hypocritical.

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Response to asuhornets (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:29 PM

18. A lot. One-letter word (article) followed by a three-letter word (noun).

 

I know, I'm a jerk, but honestly, this one's easy.

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Response to Gwhittey (Reply #11)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:29 PM

19. Like super PACs? They're not going away but Sanders sure is ignoring them

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Response to Gwhittey (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:38 AM

52. Exactly

 

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Response to asuhornets (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:24 PM

15. I still hate SD's, but they're there, and until they're gone, you do what you have to do to win.

I'd like it if BOTH PARTIES stopped messing around with "special rules", "super delegates" "winner take all or proportional votes" and all the other games they play to get their own way! Just let the people vote! Someone will win & someone will lose, but it's the VOTERS that made the decision!

I was so disheartened when I heard the talking heads discussing the Pub convention, and how they will game the system to get anyone but Trump! They even said "That 's thing the voters don't yet know. They think the voters select the candidate, they don't." The TH asked "They why have primaries? the answer was "That's a good question, huh."

I don't yet understand the whole process on either side, but I HOPE the Dems aren't doing the same BS.

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Response to napi21 (Reply #15)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:30 PM

20. Same thing with super PACs right?

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:41 PM

21. Yes, unfortunately so. I don't like them, but they're legal Until they're not, candidates can use

their money. That doesn't mean that candidate won't feel some "loyalty" to that SP group. I think I know why most candidates won't fight against SP. They aren't sure they can do what Bernie is doin, getting lots of small donors to support their run.

If it ever gets overturned, I guess we'll all see.

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Response to asuhornets (Reply #10)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:07 AM

61. When they noticed the discrepency between those "appointed" delegates and the will of the voters

 

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Response to napi21 (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:25 PM

23. Maddow's intention was fully exposed with her gossip session with Chris Hayes. That was childish.

Could you figure out what Hayes and Maddow were even saying? What was their point if they had one beyond smearing Bernie? It was juvenile and pointless whatever it was.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #23)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:45 PM

29. I missed the whole thing.

What did their banter consist of?

I have given up on MSNBC ever since Rachel turned on the middle class. It took her one invite to the White House to have her forget all about even occasionally criticizing Obama.

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Response to snowy owl (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 12:56 AM

5. Bernie is going to make seven dimension chess look like checkers.

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Response to Hiraeth (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:47 PM

30. And if Bernie doesn't show them, his followers will.

Time to storm the Bastille!

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Response to snowy owl (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:11 AM

7. that'll show those women who can "handle" them nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:19 AM

8. Really?

He handles Toad, and Mathews the same but you have to turn this into some imagined sexist thing?

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Response to NowSam (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:44 PM

22. Welcome to DU, where AA's are called racist and women are sexist against themselves or something.

 

I do love some of the odd contradictions we run into around here. Just laugh at those who deserve it and move on.

....although to be fair, I was going to chime in with a post title of "Well someone tell him to knock it off, he's on national cable television!"

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Response to msongs (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:39 PM

25. What "women?"

 

I'm a woman. Kindly do not use my gender in an attempt to damage good people.

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Response to snowy owl (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 01:45 AM

9. Kick and R

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Response to snowy owl (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 03:56 AM

12. He handles Women?

Ick! Gross.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:57 AM

14. Is "Handle" now a misogynist word?

Would it be gay baiting if Bill Clinton handled Chuck Todd? Do we need a special language that needs to be used when speaking about women. Should we also address them as "Ladies" out of special respect for their unique gender?

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:41 PM

26. Oh, please.

 

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Response to snowy owl (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:26 PM

16. The excitement over successfully doing an interview with a progressive is interesting. Nt

 

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #16)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:27 PM

24. Yes, it was successful so why couldn't she understand what he said?

Or was misunderstanding intentional?

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #24)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:43 PM

27. She's media -- totally in the bag for Hillary.

 

Maddow went 1%, and that's where her loyalties lie.

Bernie's just too 99% for Comcast's taste.


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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #16)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:44 PM

28. Well she should be excited over doing an interview with a progressive.

 

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Response to senz (Reply #28)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:55 PM

31. I would imagine it's exciting...

 

To be interviewing presidential primary candidates.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #31)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:59 PM

33. Especially one who's actually a progessive.

 

She may have forgotten what they're like.

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Response to senz (Reply #33)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:22 PM

35. Stating Maddow as anything other than progressive is something new to me.

 

I don't watch her much but read enough from her and see enough of her to know she is progressive. No one is going to buy that she isn't. To be polite, it would be dishonest to say otherwise.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #35)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 10:01 PM

38. That's your opinion. Progressive before she filled her pockets with MSM gold?

Maybe at one time but as you said, you don't watch her much anymore. She runs a gossipy, in-crowd show. No net neutrality and no corporate stories. I guess it has been a long time, huh? You probably ought to catch up before you judge her as a progressive. Of course, I don't know what "progressive" means to you? Progressing up the income ladder or the corporate shill ladder?

I'd value your opinion more if you watched her more but even then, I'd probably argue if you called her "progressive." Radio days - definitely. Those days are long gone.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #35)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 10:20 PM

40. I wish. But she works for Comcast and they call the shots.

 

For example, she isn't allowed to say anything about the TPP. Many months ago, when I still watched MSNBC, there was an issue of importance to progressives that she couldn't talk about (sorry I can't remember which issue unless it was when the TPP hit the headlines briefly), and she hinted at it, rolled her eyes a lot, said rather tongue in cheek that there wasn't much news that night, and I could see how hard it was for her to be muzzled.

But now she seems to have adjusted. So MSNBC got rid of Ed Schultz and recently Melissa Harris Perry, but Rachel stays on, talking a lot about Trump and shilling for Hillary.

The spirit's gone. Let's hope the money and fame are worth it.

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Response to snowy owl (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:58 PM

32. It's about principles.

Definition of principles: A fundamental truth or proposition that serves as the foundation for a system of belief or behavior or for a chain of reasoning.

If you're going to hold yourself up as the morally superior candidate, then you need to stick to them. Bernie doesn't have a super PAC, but he has his "principles." I like that. That's what draws people to him. That's what his whole candidacy is built on.

Ya can't trash them 3rd quarter.

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Response to Skid Rogue (Reply #32)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 09:00 PM

34. If you like principles, why are you supporting Hillary?

 

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Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:11 AM

62. That's the same thought that came to mind . . . . talk about a contradiction

 

it's like matter and anti-matter. . . . .Clinton supporter and Principles.
Hurts the brain!

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Response to snowy owl (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 10:26 PM

42. Honestly...

Because I've known her for years, I've watched her.

I watched as the Clintons turned a red country blue.

I watched her champion healthcare 20 years before anyone else had the guts to take it on.

I saw she and her husband provide desperately needed money for the fight against HIV/AIDS.

I heard her say that "women's rights, are human rights" and it brought me to tears.

I voted for her as Senator twice, as she faced constant character assassination from the right-wing.

I watched as she, the carpetbagger, handily defeated the NY darlings of the Republican Party. (It was a thing of beauty.)

I lived in NYC during 911. She was my senator. I watched her fight for the well being of first responders. I ran down the street, following The Columbus Day Parade in Manhattan, a month after the attack, just to keep my eyes on her.... hot coffee splashing over my hand. They said it was super dangerous, but there she was smiling and waving at us all.

I watched as she was defeated by President Obama, then fought for his election with all her heart. (like I did)

I watched her raked over the coals because of Benghazi and end up making the Republicans look like complete fools twice. OMG! I'd like to see Bernie do that. Look how he acted under 10 minutes of a reporter's questions.

I've seen Hillary Clinton in action for the better part of my life. I respect her. I think the right-wingers have done everything they could to pull her down. They've failed. She's about to become President of this beautiful nation.

You can google plenty of links to her official accomplishment, but this is why I love her.

Also, I hate, hate, hate to see the Bernie supporters spilling out right wing talking points. We're all better than that.

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Response to Skid Rogue (Reply #42)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:32 PM

46. Wow, what revisionist history.

Impressive. Really.
And totally wrong.

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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #46)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:09 AM

47. Um... that's how I experienced what we now call history.

That matters.

Real "conversation" might be beneficial to us all.
Going to bed now. Nite.

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Sat Mar 19, 2016, 12:26 AM

50. tomorrow.... cause I worked my ass off today.

I'm bleary minded and tired, but I'll try to give you an answer tomorrow.

Good night, ChairmanAgnostic. Sweet dreams.

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Response to ChairmanAgnostic (Reply #46)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:12 AM

63. Nice summary, but a bit wordy don't you think

 

You could summarize it in 2 letters B and S.

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #63)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 06:14 PM

65. That's the truth.

I've been trying to think of a way to concisely point out how emotional Skid Rogue's points are and how so far from anything factual or truthful. I just said good-bye to a friend who finally admitted she is Hillary-bound because she thinks it's time we had a woman president. I nearly choked. I actually got emotional and said let's not talk about it anymore because I cannot stomach that answer.

What a scary and uninformed emotional electorate we have. And I believe Trump voters - all the voters on the right- are just the same. Right-wingers never analyze the issues. They always vote with their emotions. We are in such trouble. Our future is bleak.

My same friend remembers the nineties as great. I told her I voted Green because I could not vote for a second term for Bill. She did ask why and I reminded her of nafta, glasss-steagall, and workfair which destroyed black familes. She also said that Bernie's ideas are fantasy. When will Americans finally get their heads out of movies and propaganda and look at issues staight on? I'm disgusted with these people.

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #65)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:15 PM

66. I pretty much agree with everything

 

And the "Bernie's ideas are fantasy" . . I always like to remind them that there used to be free college in the US, Jefferson started the first land grant colleges. And EVERY other developed nation on EARTH has universal healthcare. Do they think that the US, which they say is number 1, is so stupid that we can't do what everyone else is already doing?

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #66)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:25 PM

68. Wasn't Michigan State the first land grant college?

In 1855?

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Response to Skid Rogue (Reply #42)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:19 AM

64. And isn't there anther list that is more important

 

Deregulation of Wall Street setting the grounds for the biggest economic downturn since the Great Depression
DOMA
NAFTA -- wasn't that responsible for gutting manufacturing and the middle class
Welfare reform that shredded the social safety net.
And all that "tough on crime" BS that really did make America Number 1, for most people in prison in the world . . the largest % were African Americans, who now, for some reason, LOVE the Clintons who sent them all to prison. Go figure.

Oh, it goes on and on.
They did some good but they did a LOT of damage because they were the ones who originally decided that why should the Republican be the only ones getting corporate money, Democrats should do that too.
Congratulations Bill and Hillary Clinton, the first people to decide that the Democrats should sell out just like the Republicans. A proud and distinctive honor, on second thought, maybe it was a distinctive HORROR.

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Response to snowy owl (Original post)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:16 PM

43. I never would have dreamed I would be saying this, but

 

at this point she probably needs a handler

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Response to silvershadow (Reply #43)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:20 PM

44. LOL! Maybe we all do.

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Response to Skid Rogue (Reply #44)

Fri Mar 18, 2016, 11:22 PM

45. :-). nt

 

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Response to Skid Rogue (Reply #44)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 07:15 PM

67. emotional voter?

Since you didn't respond to our issues and points, do you think you are an emotional voter? I don't say it to offend you but to encourage you to think about it.

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