2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCBS News: Florida voters 'fed up' with Clinton speak out
link to Florida voters "fed up" with Trump and Clinton speak out; excerpt:
Voters in the key swing state of Florida are sharing their frustration about their options in the 2016 presidential race. A focus group comprised of Republican and Democratic voters who oppose both Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump offered a revealing look at the anger toward the front-runners in both parties.
Clinton and Trump share the distinction of being among the least-liked candidates.
"I would rather not vote than vote for either one of these candidates," one woman told CBS News contributor and Republican strategist Frank Luntz, who led the group at the Orlando Public Library. "And it pains me to say that, because I feel it's my right as a member of this democratic society to be able to vote. But given those two candidates, I can't vote for either one of them."... "I just think that none of the-- either party doesn't deserve my vote. They're not giving me what I feel we need as a country," another woman explained. "So why give the support to someone who's not gonna do what I need them to do for me and my family?"
"I don't believe Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton really care about the American people. I don't trust either of them. I don't think they are presidential," one man said. ... "The thing about Hillary Clinton is that all of her flaws are verifiable and provable. ... "There is a great opportunity for someone. And that person had better come forward fast, because if the Republicans put Donald Trump up, and if the Democrats put Hillary Clinton, it will be the worst turnout election ever," a woman said.
Probably half of the Sanders supporters I know are actively interested in Plan B if Sanders cannot overcome the delegates Hillary won in the Bible Belt (of course, he's winning the delegate court outside of the Bible Belt). I personally do not think Plan B is a viable option because Sanders is not interested and because Jill Stein's math is wrong (she is counting the super delegates now but they don't vote until this summer and few will defy the people's choice so Sanders' goal is to win a majority of pledged delegates without regard to the super delegates).
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)I don't feel so confident about her high negatives.
(Doesn't matter whether she deserves them or not.)
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Human101948
(3,457 posts)and then finding on election day that all those negative ratings made a Republican win the White House.
But I hope not.
The truth is that the right wingers have been successful in raising her negatives into record territory. How is that going to change in the next 7 months?
floriduck
(2,262 posts)Not everyone was as vote aware as she was. But she can still write-in Bernie Sanders.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)News has an enormous audience that doesn't know Luntz from Haim Saban.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)needs a big K & R.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Not worth a bucket of warm piss.
dana_b
(11,546 posts)"There is a great opportunity for someone. And that person had better come forward fast, because if the Republicans put Donald Trump up, and if the Democrats put Hillary Clinton, it will be the worst turnout election ever," a woman said."
mmmm hmmmm...