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pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 06:48 PM Mar 2016

New state and national poll averages put HRC well ahead in NY, PA, AZ, and CA

Last edited Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:59 PM - Edit history (2)

These delegate-rich states comprise all the states with poll averages reported by RealClearpolitics:


Arizona: Clinton 48.5, Sanders 21.5

New York: Clinton 63, Sanders 28.5

Pennsylvania: Clinton 49.3, Sanders 26

California: Clinton 42.5, Sanders 29

National: Clinton 51, Sanders 39.6


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/?state=nwa

ON EDIT: All eight western and northern states between now and NY (which includes AZ) in total have FEWER delegates (280, total) than NY alone -- which has 291. PA has 210 and CA, the motherlode, has 548.

But all of the Democratic primaries are divided proportionally, so only large wins yield substantially different numbers of delegates. This is why Hillary is likely, over the long run, to sustain or even increase her current lead -- though Bernie could temporarily cut into her delegate count during the next 8 contests.

If he is as successful as Obama was in 2008 in those states, he will reduce her delegate lead from about 325 to about 265.

And then will come NY, which has more delegates than the previous 8 states combined -- and where Hillary was re-elected to her position as Senator with very wide margins.

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New state and national poll averages put HRC well ahead in NY, PA, AZ, and CA (Original Post) pnwmom Mar 2016 OP
If the results in NY are anywhere close to that poll, it's game, set and match. LonePirate Mar 2016 #1
The New York Poll was landline only Donkees Mar 2016 #13
Closed primaries are gonna be a real b**ch for Bernie. -nt Happenstance24 Mar 2016 #2
K&R livetohike Mar 2016 #3
DU rec...nt SidDithers Mar 2016 #4
The South shall rise again! Oh wait... JaneyVee Mar 2016 #5
But sanders is winning!!!! beachbumbob Mar 2016 #6
Are these all closed primaries? nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #7
NY, AZ, and PA are all closed. CA is "semi-closed." pnwmom Mar 2016 #9
She can drop 5 points in each and it will be game over. hope she doesn't but just saying. nt Jitter65 Mar 2016 #8
No, it won't. She is 325 pledged delegates ahead. She could just tie in all the pnwmom Mar 2016 #10
It's a dead heat! wyldwolf Mar 2016 #11
It's a TIE I tell you , a TIE!!!! Nt pkdu Mar 2016 #12
Getting swept on Tuesday probly has something to do with it. griffi94 Mar 2016 #14
Wow Solid Snake1 Mar 2016 #15
They think that because he won in Michigan by 2 percent. n/t pnwmom Mar 2016 #16
I see Solid Snake1 Mar 2016 #17
Right. They're not doing the math. Or they'll hoping some miracle will happen pnwmom Mar 2016 #18
Weird Solid Snake1 Mar 2016 #20
Has there been a new CA poll? DCBob Mar 2016 #19
CONGRATULATIONS TO HILLARY AND HER TEAM-- riversedge Mar 2016 #21

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
9. NY, AZ, and PA are all closed. CA is "semi-closed."
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:33 PM
Mar 2016

It's open to Democrats and voters with no preference.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
10. No, it won't. She is 325 pledged delegates ahead. She could just tie in all the
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:35 PM
Mar 2016

subsequent primaries and caucuses (split state delegates in half) and she'd still be 325 delegates ahead.

Bernie's the one with the problem. He has to take 58% of all the future delegates in order to win. (More if you include super delegates.) How's he going to manage that?

griffi94

(3,733 posts)
14. Getting swept on Tuesday probly has something to do with it.
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 07:52 PM
Mar 2016

If it starts looking like he's running a Forlorn Hope campaign
expect his numbers to drop off.
Closed primaries are also a factor since Bernie doesn't
do as well with traditional Democrats.

He does really well with the younger voters but they haven't been turning
out in as high numbers as he needs. If they're feeling like he's no longer
a viable candidate they may not be as enthusiastic.

 

Solid Snake1

(95 posts)
15. Wow
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:13 PM
Mar 2016

Go Hillary! I'm not sure where Bernie supporters get the idea that CA, NY, and NJ will go overwhelmingly to him?

 

Solid Snake1

(95 posts)
17. I see
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:23 PM
Mar 2016

But Hillary actually came out of that the winner since they basically split the delegates down the middle with Bernies getting a bit more. She also took all delegates in Mississippi that day as well. I don't think they understand that even if Sanders were to win every single state from here on out he still will likely fall short of the required delegates. Sanders needs to win by 60-40 at least in every single remaining state to have a chance.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
18. Right. They're not doing the math. Or they'll hoping some miracle will happen
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:25 PM
Mar 2016

(from their point of view) and she'll drop out.

 

Solid Snake1

(95 posts)
20. Weird
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 08:28 PM
Mar 2016

I really don't see how they they think they will happen, when the voting trends show the opposite. And it even seems like they willfully fail to accept the fact Hillary has 2.5 million more votes than Bernie. Somehow thats not a majority.

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