Those people that believe white oligarch billionaires will cede white power structures

[Uncle Joe]

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except on a most superficial basis are sadly mistaken.

The source of their power comes from keeping the people divided along all manner of fault lines.

This is why their corporate media conglomerate mouthpieces during campaign season focus the Lion's share of their coverage on superficial externals black, white, Latino, men, women, native born, immigrant, etc. etc. and how that affects the "horse race." The primary reason for doing this other than setting or reinforcing frames and manipulating the electorate is to give a heads up to the candidates as in how to tailor their "political" message and not examine their heart felt and studied stances on the critical issues of the day and how this affects our society on multiple levels.

This is why the corporate media conglomerates almost never engage in substantive, in-depth discussion or coverage of the critical issues which they profit from, whether it be poverty, health care, progressive taxation, climate change, waging war, wealth inequality, income disparity, campaign finance reform, institutional racism, the war on drugs, mass incarceration, for profit prisons, unfettered free trade, immigrant slave labor, etc. etc. If they did cover those issues with the same urgency and time they spend on superficial divisions and the "horse race," we would be a much stronger nation internally and externally, but to do so would require putting the people ahead of their own narrow corporate/oligarch interests.

This is why their corporate media conglomerate mouthpieces have gifted Trump between 1 and 2 billion dollars in free advertising beginning before he even announced his candidacy keeping him front and center in the public's consciousness with absolutely no regard to whatever Trump ever said or did. Trump is one of them and he's their creation despite any faux protestations to the contrary.

This is why their corporate media conglomerate mouthpieces take pains to include the super-delegates in the total number of delegates won by Bernie and Hillary to present a more formidable looking climb for Bernie as an attempt to discourage people from voting for him.

This is why their corporate media conglomerate mouthpieces are so dead set on Bernie dropping out of the race when he has won 40+% of the delegates and half the nation hasn't even voted yet, one would think a free press would have a greater respect for democracy, but with the corporate media conglomerates this isn't about democracy, it's about control.

The last thing white oligarch billionaires, mega-corporations and their corporate media conglomerate mouthpieces want is for the the American Public or 99% to become united, such a turn would represent a grave threat to their economic dominance and powers of manipulation over all the people regardless of race or gender.

[uponit7771]

1. Yeap, it seems like that oligarch is bucking against the true revolution

[grasswire]

2. when I observe how she has treated Obama...

...I know just how she feels about PoC having power. Trying to destroy him multiple times, betraying him as SoS, and now hugging him close for her own purposes.

[Empowerer]

19. Obama doesn't seem to see it that way.

I'll take his word over yours.

[senz]

23. Obama has huge problems with Hillary.

[Empowerer]

52. I guess you would know ...

[840high]

53. You spoke to him?

[pdsimdars]

3. Welll, they never cede it, but when the people have had enough, they TAKE the power back

That's what history says. That's what "America" stands for . . . the people rising against the biggest power in the world and governing themselves.

[cantbeserious]

4. Bernie Is The Only Antidote To Rampant DNC DWS DLC HRC Third-Way Corporatist Corruption

eom

[Zorra]

5. Great post, Uncle Joe, thanks. nt

[Uncle Joe]

7. Thank you, Zorra.

Peace to you.

[PeoViejo]

6. Take away their Billions and make the Elites like everyone else.

There's the easy way, and then there's the hard way.

[kgnu_fan]

8. amazingly, with generous help of the oppressed....

[Uncle Joe]

10. Well this isn't exclusive to the Democratic side, we have said for more many years,

that "the average Republican votes against his or her own best interests."

Although there is a different variation, the corporate media conglomerates game of division and omission works against them as well.

[kgnu_fan]

11. what I do not understand is why we are fooled so many time more even this trick has been known

for so many years. We see how it worked in the Republican side, how they vote against their best interest, and we still do it ourselves. Seriously, why don't we learn? Why do we fall for it again and again?

[Uncle Joe]

12. "The Power of Television."

It's mass hypnosis.

[kgnu_fan]

13. TV...with the current technology, it can be a surveilance tool, too.

[senz]

17. Yup, stay away from "smart" TVs and Windows 10.

[whirlygigspin]

60. Turn it off

made me think of Manly P Hall

[840high]

54. I think this year they are

fed up - just like we are.

[whatchamacallit]

9. Divide and conquer works every time

And we reliably play our part in our own subjugation.

[amborin]

14. divide & conquer has worked especially well to divert attention from the key issues:

economic inequality, the elite's intensification and solidification of economic power, the huge growth in wealth inequality;

that was Hillary's and the entire elite's principal goal; that's why the electorate is sliced and diced, with slices pitted against one another; the elite's dream come true; they are laughing so hard

wake up, people; try to see what's at stake

[kristopher]

59. Can you say triangulation, girls and boys? nt

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MR. ROGERS

[bettyellen]

15. if you think being a woman (or POC) is a superficial external politically....

YOU have fallen for some serious propaganda. Not shocked you probably don;t care about the supreme court either- that would go hand in hand with dismissing our issues. Fuck that.

[senz]

16. Oh yes, let's take our racial/gender divisions and fight each other to death

while the oligarchs laugh all the way to the bank.

Pffft!

[bettyellen]

20. if you think liberals shouldn't vocally support women and POC, you are part of the problem.

Sorry dudes, there is not getting to the back of the line for us anymore. Deal with it.

[senz]

21. Hey, I'm as fully female, fully gendered, as you (if you are also a woman).

So please don't pull that divisive crap on me. I see right through it.

[bettyellen]

25. dismissing womens issues is totally divisive and falling for RW framing....

but I see loads of RW propaganda posted here by SBS supporters, so I am not surprised by that kind of patronizing bullshit anymore. You have other priorities, fine... go have them without the coalition of reliable voters you feel you need to dismiss and ignore for whatever reason.

[senz]

30. Stop prevaricating. No one here "dismisses" women's issues.

No one. Now stop it.

[Empowerer]

22. You speak of "racial/gender divisions" as if they're balanced equations

It must be nice to dismiss the racial and gender problems in this country as mere "divisions" that we should all just ignore so that we can all join together to fight the fight that YOU want to engage in ... who cares if women and minorities continue to get the short end of the stick, regardless how much we close the economic gap between the billionaires and the rest of us?

[senz]

24. We know how you're using it. We see through you.

Bernie has been 100% on racial and gender issues his entire life.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511324268

So please take the prevaricating deflections somewhere else.

[bettyellen]

27. Bernie started his campaign without a single word about women or POC. Not in his stump

speeches, not on his website. Nothing.

It took a lot of people chattering about it to get his campaign to acknowledge and change that. I am proud he did it- but you think we were faking it. Yeah, women and POC don't have real issues, we just fake them for the RWs enjoyment. Idiocy.

[senz]

29. That's because he advocates for ALL oppressed peoples.

He always has.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511324268


Live with it.

[bettyellen]

32. SBS made a calculated move to avoid "wedge issues" and when he realized it failed with Dems

he fixed it, but many supporters doubled down and dismissed women and POC. And there we have the birth of the Bros. You guys blew it.

[Uncle Joe]

26. In the best of all worlds do you believe that being a woman or person of color should matter in how

you're treated by other individuals or those in power?

I don't believe it should, everyone should be treated equally so the color of your skin or gender is a superficial external, no one can help how they come into this world, but we can address how they're treated.

Some of the issues that do matter just to name a few are institutional racism, misogyny, equal pay for women, domestic abuse, climate change, economic justice, war and peace, government corruption or dysfunction via a screwed campaign finance system, universal health care, tuition free public universities, fracking, poverty, unbridled free trade, and the overwhelming power of monopolies and trusts those are issues of substance if we can address those major concerns along with others that I didn't mention, the rest will work itself out and it won't matter whether you're black, white, brown, red, yellow, man or woman.

[bettyellen]

28. I am working within the world we have- not the one I hope we do someday. My rights are

under attack- how am I supposed to give a fuck about anyone who is privileged enough to let Cruz or Trump win and fuck the supreme court. I am not going to respect that- but I know why some can easily do it.

[senz]

31. If you don't want Trump or Cruz, then back Bernie. Now.

[bettyellen]

34. Hillary or Bernie will work for me. My state is already a lock for Hillary.

My vote will likely be too late to help SBS, and I'll live.

[senz]

37. Yeah, you always say you're for either one

but the only one I've ever seen you knock is Bernie and the only one you've supported is Hillary.

[bettyellen]

43. I knock the RW bullshit that gets posted here, because there are rats trying to screw us.

and I don't want to see us carry water for the GOP or kid ourselves that they are all the same.

[Uncle Joe]

48. Oligarchs and mega-corporations for the most part support Republicans, but

they also dominate the Democratic Party as a fallback position if you ignore the implications of that then you're knowingly or unknowingly carrying their water and it's not for the best interests of any race or gender.

[Empowerer]

18. Plenty of white people at ALL income levels are having trouble giving up their privilege

For many black people, this isn't about the billionaires vs. everyone else. The battle is a lot more complex. We're still fighting white supremacy, racism, racial discrimination and racial inequality that impacts us regardless of our income or the income of those doing the oppressing.

[Uncle Joe]

33. Who do you believe has been overwhelmingly backing the racist, misogynist Trump with

wall to wall coverage since even before day 1 of his announcement?

Billionaires own the primary institution which has propelled Trump to the front of the pack and you can bet your last dollar he will do nothing for African Americans, Latinos, women, or anybody that doesn't look like him, he's a corporate media conglomerate creation.

So you can dismiss our concern with great wealth disparity, campaign finance reform, universal health care, and a host of issues because the primary backers of Trump have, but this would be to your own peril.

If the corporate media conglomerates have their way and Trump comes to power or for that matter Cruz you can kiss any potential progress on institutional racism, gender pay equality and a host of other critical issues good bye.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/18/proof-surfaces-tv-networks-working-donald-trump.html

Pro-Trump Media Bias Confirmed As Networks Admit To Pushing Trump Propaganda

A new report confirms that five television networks cut a deal with Donald Trump that has effectively turned their coverage over to the Republican frontrunner and turned the networks into Trump propaganda arms.

Under the Trump campaign’s conditions, camera crews would not be able to leave the press pen during Trump’s rallies to capture video of audience reactions, known in the industry as “cutaway shots” or “cuts.” Networks would also not be able to use a separate riser set up to get cutaway shots. The terms, which limit the access journalists have to supporters and protesters while Trump is speaking, are unprecedented, and are more restrictive than those put on the networks by the White House or Hillary Clinton’s campaign, which has had Secret Service protection for its duration.

Facing the risk of losing their credentialed access to Trump’s events, the networks capitulated. They did, however, get one concession: When Trump finishes speaking, one person with a camera is allowed to exit the press pen to capture him shaking hands on the rope line while he exits. That footage is then shared among the networks.

Instead of standing up to Donald Trump, executives from ABC News, CBS News, NBC News, CNN, and Fox News have basically turned their coverage over to the Republican frontrunner. This means that all three cable networks (MSNBC is owned by NBC), and all three traditional broadcast networks are not practicing journalism. The networks have allowed Donald Trump to turn their coverage into propaganda for his presidential campaign.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/03/18/proof-surfaces-tv-networks-working-donald-trump.html

 The Discourse Suffers When Trump Gets 23 Times As Much Coverage as Sanders

(snip)

f we imagine American media as a hungry beast that thinks only about its next meal, then it is easy to see why Donald Trump’s presidential campaign has gone from strength to strength. Trump feeds the beast. With calculated and constant outrageousness, he dominates news coverage not just of the race for the Republican nomination but of the entire 2016 presidential competition. As veteran political observer Larry Sabato says, “It’s Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump and Trump.”

(snip)

http://www.thenation.com/article/the-discourse-suffers-when-trump-gets-23-times-as-much-coverage-as-sanders/

It's really not complex, you just have to follow the money.

[bettyellen]

35. Reducing it to "follow the money" does not work for women's rights.

Or for justice for POC. This is more back of the bus bullshit, and I am embarrassed for DU it gets such play here. You take care of you, I'll do me. Bye Felicia.

[Uncle Joe]

36. It's the ROOT CAUSE that progressive legislation doesn't get passed in regards to women's rights,

pay equity, institutional racism, and a host of other critical issues which I posted up thread.

They profit from it.

You can ignore the elephant in the room but it won't go away.

The white largely men oligarchs and their corporate media conglomerate mouth pieces want to keep the nation divided along a roughly equal partisan balance so that nothing gets done unless it benefits the less than 1%.

Having a united 99% would not benefit them but it would greatly improve the functions of our government in representing the most pressing needs of all our citizens, men, women, black and white it's as simple as that.

So long as our nation's government stays unbalanced, dysfunctional and corrupted by mega-dollars, the 99% will only get the crumbs that the less than 1% allow to fall of the table.

[senz]

38. Pearls before succotash. They're just here to divide & deflect.

[Uncle Joe]

39. That's ok, senz

let them keep kicking it.

[senz]

40. Okay but

pretty soon I'll have to use all my physical strength and concentration and patience to instill a Venetian blind in a window with my brand new cordless drill, so I won't be kicking anything but the ladder.

[Uncle Joe]

41. Be careful, enjoy the process and

congrats on your brand new cordless drill.

[senz]

49. Thanks

Ran into a glitch (my fault), probably won't be able to finish until tomorrow morning. But your advice was welcome, especially "enjoy the process." That really helps. And the drill is cool; it has a little light to help you see what you're doing.

[bettyellen]

44. If you feel compelled to ignore my reproductive rights or justices issues for POC because you

reduce everything to money issues- and their frames, it is on you. That would be you telling people to get in the back of the bus and catch up "someday". Not my fault you put your own issues first, but don't deny that is exactly what is happening. No excuse for it is okay by me. Women and POC aren;t the ones "causing the devisiveness", when you start going after the sexists and racists instead of us, then we can talk. Otherwise, you are treating us as your pawns. Your mistake.

[Uncle Joe]

46. I nor Bernie have ignored your reproductive rights, I don't know where you came up with that idea?

But again you ignore the oligarch's role in both funding Republican candidates that do oppose it and the corporate media conglomerates (loaded with inherent conflict of interest) divide and conquer games to keep a rough balance of power between the parties.

[bettyellen]

56. I know- you consider the fight for reproductive rights to be a game of some sort. I know.

[Uncle Joe]

62. "You know" I don't view any individual's rights and freedom regardless of

gender or race to be a "game!"

A woman's right to control her own body is certainly not a game!

I do view the billionaire oligarchs, mega corporations and their corporate media conglomerate mouthpieces as playing the ultimate game with the American Peoples' lives and well being at stake, you can call it chess, monopoly or something else if you prefer but it serves the American People of all races and genders ill except for the less than 1%

[leftofcool]

47. +1

[senz]

51. Bet I've been to more pro-choice marches than you, bettyellen --

not to mention donated tons of money to NARAL and PP, had letters to the editor published, had t-shirts printed up, and made enemies locally among the antichoice crowd.

So don't give us this phony baloney "treating us as your pawns" nonsense. Bernie Sanders is 1000 times better than Hillary Clinton on ALL gender and race issues. ALL of them. Hands down.

Heck, Hill's even talking about allowing restrictions on late term abortions. She's no friend to anyone but herself.

So please stop playing this nasty game!

[bettyellen]

57. Yes, and add clinic protection and trips to my state capital. But you call it a game. FUCK THAT.

You assume silly things about people who disagree. You seriously underestimate them. Fuck that, too.

[senz]

58. Ah, forgot my stint at clinic protection/patient escort

and yes, trips to my state capital.

I just don't think much of game players.

[bettyellen]

63. So easy to forget doing, I am sure. You accuse people who speak out as "game players"

and I think you are foolish to see it as a game in the first place. It is serious shit and I shouldn't waste more time with people who dismiss it as anything less- like you two. Later.

[senz]

64. Thank you for coming into focus.

I never did buy the "undecided" pretense.

And even though it's none of your business, I don't forget much. However, I do experience occasional slowness in the orderly recall of memory. There's a reason for that.

The game-playing is the cheap, low, despicable attempt to paint Bernie Sanders as sexist and/or racist for the purpose of misleading and frightening voters.

Adios.

[bettyellen]

65. Really low to paint life long activists as game players who invent grievances. Fuck disparaging PP

and activists, stupidest thing SBS or some of his supporters ever did. Don't give a damn if you believe me, I'm voting for the most viable candidate at the long end of the primary season, like I always do. Your opinion is irrelevant.

[bbgrunt]

42. great OP Joe! kand r

[Uncle Joe]

45. Even President Obama recognized the danger posed by the oligarchs, mega-corporations and

foreign entities vast wealth in corrupting our elections and in turn the government in an unprecedented State of the Union speech with a President criticizing a Supreme Court decision.

I'm amazed that so many people are blind to the divisive games played by the oligarchs and their corporate media mouthpieces; which benefit from this decision and how they threaten all our interests, black, white, Latino, men or women.

They have an inherent interest in keeping the American People divided and nobody benefits from that except for the less than 1%.

Thanks and peace to you, bbgrunt.

[Broward]

50. I can't rec this OP enough. One of the best I've seen here in a long while.

[840high]

55. .^that

[Uncle Joe]

61. Thank you, Broward.

Peace to you.