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Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:54 PM

If I were a GOP operative, I'd try to stir up factional rivalry among Dems

Because divide-and-conquer is ALWAYS a winning strategy.

Republicans must be licking their chops watching Dems insisting that the opposing Dem candidate is so odious that they will not vote for him or her no matter what.

Because if enough potential Democratic voters get turned off and stay home on election day--or write in a name that has zero chance of winning--Republicans WILL win.

Like they won in 2010 and 2014. Look what that did to the Demcratic majorities that had been in the House and Senate after Dems unified behind a candidate and turned out in record numbers in 2008. After the disasters of 2010 and 2014, Republicans now have majorities in both Houses of Congress and many state legislatures, as well as governorships of many states. The Democratic president can get only a fraction of his agenda enacted because he has no control over Congress. He can't even get a Supreme Court nominee appointed.

And as a result of the 2010 election, the GOP got to redraw congressional district maps to give themselves a massive leg up in all future congressional elections for this decade.

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Reply If I were a GOP operative, I'd try to stir up factional rivalry among Dems (Original post)
TheDormouse Mar 2016 OP
John Poet Mar 2016 #1
msongs Mar 2016 #2
Avalux Mar 2016 #23
artislife Mar 2016 #16
Aerows Mar 2016 #25
revbones Mar 2016 #3
salinsky Mar 2016 #6
Fawke Em Mar 2016 #31
Autumn Colors Mar 2016 #4
uponit7771 Mar 2016 #14
BillZBubb Mar 2016 #30
Fawke Em Mar 2016 #37
uponit7771 Mar 2016 #44
Loki Mar 2016 #5
artislife Mar 2016 #17
Loki Mar 2016 #19
artislife Mar 2016 #20
iAZZZo Mar 2016 #33
LonePirate Mar 2016 #27
artislife Mar 2016 #28
Frances Mar 2016 #7
w4rma Mar 2016 #36
H2O Man Mar 2016 #45
dogman Mar 2016 #8
bettyellen Mar 2016 #10
dogman Mar 2016 #11
bettyellen Mar 2016 #12
artislife Mar 2016 #18
Fawke Em Mar 2016 #38
Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #9
Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #13
Vinca Mar 2016 #15
insta8er Mar 2016 #21
Broward Mar 2016 #22
Fawke Em Mar 2016 #39
speaktruthtopower Mar 2016 #24
Karmadillo Mar 2016 #26
hrmjustin Mar 2016 #29
HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #32
Name removed Mar 2016 #34
Fawke Em Mar 2016 #40
Name removed Mar 2016 #43
liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #35
Loki Mar 2016 #41
RiverLover Mar 2016 #42

Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:55 PM

1. If I were a GOP operative,

 

I'd infiltrate the Democrats to push Hillary to the nomination.


She's a ticking time bomb.

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Response to John Poet (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:56 PM

2. if I were a GOP operative I would talk bernie into running as a dem because "that's where the $$ is"

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Response to msongs (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:03 PM

23. You obviously know nothing about Bernie Sanders. How insulting. n/t

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Response to John Poet (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 06:24 PM

16. ^^^Truth!

 

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Response to John Poet (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:07 PM

25. The second she gets the nomination

 

it will be non-stop Clinton Foundation foreign donors.

I hope the Democratic party has somebody lined up to get the "coronation" because if Bernie doesn't win the nomination, we are absolutely screwed if there isn't a backup.

It scares the shit out of me that we could potentially be looking at "President Cruz".

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 02:56 PM

3. One good way a Republican operative would do that would be

 

to insultingly call the supporters of one candidate "BernieBros". Or to accuse them of various things such as racism, bigotry, misogyny, etc...


Oh wait.

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Response to revbones (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:02 PM

6. ....

"Have you heard about this phenomenon, the Berniebro?" CNN's Jake Tapper asked.

"Yes, I have heard about it. It's disgusting," Sanders replied. "Look, we don't want that crap. We can and we will do everything we can, and I think we have tried. Look, anybody who is supporting me, is doing sexist things is we don't want them. I don't want them. That is not what this campaign is about."

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:01 PM

4. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

FEAR, FEAR, FEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The fault lies with the Dem. party pushing a candidate with unfavorable ratings so high that the ONLY way she would win is by playing the fear card and trying to get people to hold their noses and vote for someone they don't trust or like.


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Response to Autumn Colors (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:36 PM

14. She's popular among dems, that's what matters. We out number them

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #14)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:15 PM

30. Well she is popular among a lot of Dems, but not enough to win the election.

She needs more independents that she can get. Her only hope is massive voter turnout that trends to her.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #14)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:39 PM

37. Wrong.

What matters are the Independents - they make up 40 percent of the electorate. Both Dems and Republicans make up abotu 30 percent, each (Dems are slightly more).

And, they don't like Hillary.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #37)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:48 PM

44. That's more fantasy, there are no true independents... it's a bad polling question too that the MSM

... has sunk their teeth into.

There maybe 10% true independents on a national level that will cross in a regular election.

When it comes to trump it looks like that number goes up to 15%

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:02 PM

5. They won't listen to sanity right now TheDormouse

Zealotry always overcomes rationality. Hopefully we will come through this in one piece. To destroy ourselves because we like two different candidates is the definition of insanity. You are so right, when the GOP got to redraw congressional districts to give themselves unbeatable incumbents, we were asleep at the wheel. We need to rebuilt from the bottom up and run people who will work to restore the balance in the system, independent panels that redraw state districts. We will have another census coming up in 2020, and that is a really important goal to accomplish. Both Bernie and Hillary would do this, but without a 60 vote firewall, they will not accomplish what they want, I know that, I wish they did.

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Response to Loki (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 06:25 PM

17. And a lot of Bernie supporters will not show up for hills. nt

 

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Response to artislife (Reply #17)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 07:10 PM

19. That's fine with me,

we don't need your vote. She will win without it.

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Response to Loki (Reply #19)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 07:25 PM

20. Lol!

 

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Response to Loki (Reply #19)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:30 PM

33. "we don't need your vote."

 

you're welcome

whose vote is needed, then ???


Democratic, Republican Identification Near Historical Lows (January 11, 2016)
http://www.gallup.com/poll/188096/democratic-republican-identification-near-historical-lows.aspx

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Response to artislife (Reply #17)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:12 PM

27. Statements like that prove some Bernie supporters would prefer Trump over Hillary

Which is absolutely insane. I didn't know those sour grapes were so bitter.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #27)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:14 PM

28. It is just staying left

 

You know, voting on issues v personality.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:03 PM

7. Thank you for this common sense approach to the Dem primary

I am firmly convinced that many of the insulting posts on DU are not from Democrats

When W was President, I used to get these emails from my super conservative cousin. The emails she forwarded to me were supposedly written by ordinary people. Come to find out, many were composed by people who were paid to write them to look as though they were written by ordinary people.

I think that someday we will learn that some of these super rich people like the Koch brothers paid people to do the same kind of thing on DU and other websites because you are right: the Koch brothers and their ilk are the ones who will benefit if a Republican is in the White House.

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Response to Frances (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:37 PM

36. The Hillary supporters on DU don't sound like they are Democrats.

 

In fact one of the most prolific ones posted on a right-wing site about how she was afraid of "the Jews".

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Response to w4rma (Reply #36)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:56 PM

45. Yep.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:05 PM

8. Discourage voting, that's the way you maintain the status quo.

"It's over, your candidate can't win"

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Response to dogman (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 04:38 PM

10. yeah, a few of the Sanders supporters are vowing to stay home. Some revolution.

 

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:26 PM

11. A few?

Why bother to disparage them then? Like I wrote, maintain the status quo.

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Response to dogman (Reply #11)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:30 PM

12. Too many here, but to balance it, none I know in real life. People I know value their vote...

 

and have never seen a candidate they assumed was perfect. We know the system sucks, and try to work to change it at the local level. We don't fool ourselves that staying home and posting on the net accomplishes much at all.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 06:27 PM

18. I think most are looking to vote Green

 

They aren't staying at home. They just don't feel the Dems with H in front is the party of choice.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:41 PM

38. For the umpteenth time, Bernie supporters aren't "sitting out."

Bernie supporters will either write his name in, vote for Jill Stein and some - Independent voters who are ardently anti-establishment - will vote for Trump (although, they won't go with Cruz).

And, yes, that would be revolutionary: not supporting the establishment candidate.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 03:07 PM

9. These days we have so many republicons in the Democratic party that GOP infiltrators get lost in

the crowd.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:34 PM

13. If I were a GOP operative, I'd try to promote GOP and Dem nominees who both supported my agenda

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 05:43 PM

15. I think GOP operatives have enough to worry about in their own house.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 07:27 PM

21. You mean like the one that is currently going on within the GOP itself? the one they can't seem to

 

contain? Yeah I see what you are saying, while you would be trying to put fire to your neighbors house, your own is burning down to the ground..its an interesting concept..a bit out there..but interesting to an 11 year old.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 07:42 PM

22. If I were a GOP operative, I'd start an organization that pushes GOP policies

but call its members Dems. I'd then hijack the power structure of the Dem Party and chase the same corporate money as Repubs.
Of course, I'd also pursue the policy preferences of my new big-money donors. Then, when the takeover is almost complete, I'd question the loyalty of any Dems that are still challenging the new status quo.

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Response to Broward (Reply #22)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:42 PM

39. I bet that went over their heads.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:06 PM

24. Not a new phenomenon...

but no need for Dems to do that to Repubicans this time around!

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:12 PM

26. If I were a GOP operative, I'd take a rest after seeing how well Hillary supporters were

doing my work for me.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:14 PM

29. We have gop operatives here preaching about not voting for Hillary in the general.

 

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:16 PM

32. Seems the parties have offsetting dysfunction, I'm not sweating this

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 08:34 PM

35. Trashing thread. I am an Independent. You have to come up with better arguments than this to

win over Independents.

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Response to liberal_at_heart (Reply #35)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:05 PM

41. Independent to me means that you would vote for a republican.

I'm a Democrat, big difference.

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Response to TheDormouse (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 09:09 PM

42. If I were a GOP operative, I'd infiltrate the Democratic Party and call it DLC

And get a charming conservative to agree to call himself a Democrat and run for office.









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