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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:14 AM Mar 2016

Sanders top pick in Tuesday's Utah caucuses, poll says

link to Cruz, Sanders top picks in Tuesday's Utah caucuses, poll says; excerpt:

SALT LAKE CITY — Texas Sen. Ted Cruz is the top pick of Utahns in Tuesday's GOP presidential preference caucus election and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders is their choice in the Democratic caucus vote, according to a new Deseret News/KSL poll.

Cruz also leads GOP frontrunner Donald Trump and Ohio Gov. John Kasich among Republicans who said they're likely to participate in the caucus, as does Sanders over former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton among a similar group of Democrats.... All of the candidates except Clinton have made campaign stops in Utah over the past several days and both the candidates and political action committees are blanketing Utah airwaves with well over $1 million in television and radio commercials.... Sanders, who has the support of 52 percent of likely Democratic caucus-goers in the poll to 44 percent for Clinton, appeals to Utah voters because he's seen as "authentic. He is true to himself and we like that," Love said.

This Utah polling corresponds to the projection at PredictWise, which has Sanders as the favorite in the following upcoming races:

Utah - 83% chance of Sanders win
Idaho - 85% chance of Sanders win
Alaska - 84% chance of Sanders win
Hawaii - 53% chance of Sanderswin
Washington - 87% chance of Sanders win
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Sanders top pick in Tuesday's Utah caucuses, poll says (Original Post) Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 OP
Hillary will crush him in Arizona and lengthen her delegate lead. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #1
Sounds about right. Demographics favor him in the next week or two. DanTex Mar 2016 #2
Pyrrhic victories in low pop states workinclasszero Mar 2016 #7
Yeah, but it will keep DU entertaining firebrand80 Mar 2016 #9
True workinclasszero Mar 2016 #10
why do you say Pyrrhic? PaulaFarrell Mar 2016 #17
It just does him no good workinclasszero Mar 2016 #18
that not the meaning of pyrrhic n/t PaulaFarrell Mar 2016 #19
It's a caucus state and Bernie does best in those states book_worm Mar 2016 #3
When you have more supporters and more enthusiastic supporters, you generally regardless of whether Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #5
I wish Arizona looked as good for Bernie Funtatlaguy Mar 2016 #4
It's a betting market; betting markets favor the Goliath over the underdog. Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #6
Under 60% = Win for Hillary firebrand80 Mar 2016 #8
no, he needs to average 57%. no specific race has to reach 60% Vote2016 Mar 2016 #14
In every contest that he doesn't hit that number firebrand80 Mar 2016 #15
and in every contest where Sanders exceeds that goal (thanks Democrats Abroad!) the goal goes down! Vote2016 Mar 2016 #20
Don't get your hopes up CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #11
we should worry about Nate's predictions because he's been wrong so often in 2016 that he's overdue Vote2016 Mar 2016 #13
Tell me, which of any of the March primaries and caucuses is... CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #16
kick & rec #5 Vote2016 Mar 2016 #12

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
2. Sounds about right. Demographics favor him in the next week or two.
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:17 AM
Mar 2016

Fortunately, most of those states have very low populations, so he won't make much headway in the delegate count.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
7. Pyrrhic victories in low pop states
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:22 AM
Mar 2016

won't get Bernie the nomination. Oh well.

If he could have had big wins in Texas or Florida...but he doesn't run well in Confederate states! LOL

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
18. It just does him no good
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 01:12 PM
Mar 2016

Winning a small state closely over Hillary will net Bernie nothing.

Hillary will get delegates every time too and shes 300 plus ahead right now.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
3. It's a caucus state and Bernie does best in those states
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:18 AM
Mar 2016

also an open caucus. But I'm surprised it's as close as it is--Obama beat her by a larger margin in Utah in 2008. If it really is something like 55-45 he'll probably get about 2 delegates more than HRC.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
5. When you have more supporters and more enthusiastic supporters, you generally regardless of whether
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 10:20 AM
Mar 2016

it is a caucus or a primary.

 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
20. and in every contest where Sanders exceeds that goal (thanks Democrats Abroad!) the goal goes down!
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 02:43 PM
Mar 2016

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
11. Don't get your hopes up
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:29 AM
Mar 2016

Here is the available polling data of of the RealClearPolitics.com website:

3/22/16:


In Idaho, Sanders has a 2% lead .
Nate Silver: No prediction

In Utah Clinton has a 8.5% lead.
Nate Silver: Sanders 51.2% chance of wining, Clinton 43.9% chance of wining

In Arizona Clinton has a 30% lead.
Nate Silver: Clinton 51.1 chance of wining, Sanders 22.7% chance of wining

3/26/16:

In Alaska Clinton has a 3% lead.
Nate Silver: No prediction

Washington - no reliable poll
Nate Silver: No prediction

Hawaii - no reliable poll
Nate Silver: No prediction

So, ask yourself, based on these polls results, and lack of reliable poll results how in the heck can these predictions be right?

And since Arizona has more delegates than Idaho, Utah and Alaska combined, it's certainly possible that Sanders is going to slip even further behind.

 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
13. we should worry about Nate's predictions because he's been wrong so often in 2016 that he's overdue
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:41 AM
Mar 2016

to get one right?

CajunBlazer

(5,648 posts)
16. Tell me, which of any of the March primaries and caucuses is...
Mon Mar 21, 2016, 11:58 AM
Mar 2016

Last edited Mon Mar 21, 2016, 01:03 PM - Edit history (1)

...Sanders going to win big enough to cut into Clinton's lead? Remember, virtual ties and close wins no longer cut it.

Since the answer is "none" what that means is that by the end of March 6 more state opportunities will have come and gone without any progress in catching Clinton meaning that Bernie will have to win the remaining states by even larger margins.

His best opportunity is to win big, delegate rich states in a dramatic fashion. However, there are only of those states two left: California where Sanders is behind by 13% and New York where he is behind by more 30%.

Sanders has absolutely no clear path victory - none.

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