Bernie's STUNNING victory in Democrats Abroad . . .

[Chichiri]

. . . will cancel out about one-quarter of his net loss from Ohio.

Just Ohio. No other state.

[Matt_in_STL]

1. Congrats on doing your part to bring unity to the party!

When Hillary loses the GE, look back to your snarky posts and blame yourself.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. What, self awareness is not something I expect from these folks anymore

don't worry they will blame Na... er Bernie

[Matt_in_STL]

4. They truly believe that "unity" is something to be given, not earned.

I like to call it Coronation Syndrome. They've had it all along.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. Well some of us are actually honestly looking at Trumpism as a political philosphy

and those who think he is not electable are in for a shock. The problem is that he needs to be stopped, but this faux unity calls only help Trump. The irony is not something they understand either. Just finished transcribing notes.

Let's just say his populism and why it is that popular is clicking in a 1930s Germany kind of a way

[Matt_in_STL]

11. I completely agree he is electable, as sad as that is for this country.

The thing people don't seem to understand is that the wave is turning against the "establishment" and that people are hungry for something different. When you couple that with the intense dislike of Hillary by at least half the country, that just adds to it. I believe we will see Trump dial it back for the general election and he really will dodge to the left of Hillary on many issues in hopes of picking up those who feel they are disenfranchised by the system.

[nadinbrzezinski]

14. They really do not get it, the anger

this is the notes on the immigration chapter.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027702185

And now that I have finally finished transcribing notes on the plane. I can do this faster.

[Renew Deal]

36. Look in the mirror

[Dem2]

22. Could you be any less inclusive?

Or any MORE nasty?

Talk about massive hypocrisy.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. Hey it is the OP posting that crap

and getting atta boys from a large swath. This is hardly how you seek unity and I see quite a bit of a lack of self awareness.

As an analyst and independent voter I am enjoying the show immensely. I was promised a boring primary, no such thing. But it is the final result that is not fun.

So if you do not want me to call on the lack of unity efforts by one side of this food fight, change the tone of voice. Otherwise, I will continue to enjoy the food fight.

[highprincipleswork]

31. Lack of unity efforts on one side?

You absolutely have to be kidding me!

Where are the Hillary supporters saying something like, don't worry, we're with you on Progressive issues. We believe Hillary will stick with those. We'll help keep her honest on those.

Well, they're nowhere, probably because they don't believe either that it can be done. Or perhaps they just don't care about those things. Or perhaps they just don't care about those people - probably a bigger problem.

Listen, you don't know what can be done till you try. A fundamental life lesson. But if you aim for the shit, you're going to get the shit, or worse. If you aim higher, you may not reach the highest rungs (or you very well may!!! - witness any underdog sports team) but at least you will likely rise higher and get better than if you didn't try.

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. At this point they are not even doing that

they just in general mocking tone

And they lack awareness of that. It is a large swath and is hysterically funny

[Dem2]

38. Nah nah

they're doing it.

This place is juvenile at times.

[nadinbrzezinski]

40. Prime example of what I am talking about

It will be fun, until somebody gets a stick in the eye metaphorically of course.

As to juvenile, we agree. Ready me OP and the rest of the OPs he or she has posted. They are, as you said, quite juvenile.

[Dem2]

41. OK

What's good for the goose is good for the gander, amrite?

Your response is why we can't have nice discussions here.

[nadinbrzezinski]

43. My response is pointing out what is happening

You need the left. Posts like the OPs don't help.

Me, just enjoying the show

[UglyGreed]

3. Trolling along

maybe this one is one of those "BernieBros" I have heard about.

[Matt_in_STL]

5. Second post of this sort in 30 minutes from this poster

But, knowing their posting history, I am not really surprised. This is really all they bring to the table. Maybe someday they'll work their way from the kids table and get to sit with the adults.

[TCJ70]

6. Them and itsrobert have the market cornered on repeating themselves today...

...itsrobert actually did it in record time! 8 minutes apart for his OPs.

[UglyGreed]

8. I saw that one also

that is why I made my first comment.......

[UglyGreed]

10. I also like to keep track

of those who rec such posts, IMO it is very telling.

[Matt_in_STL]

12. Always the same one who find it "clever" but then cry about a lack of unity.

[UglyGreed]

13. One could not find the threads

calling for Bernie to drop out and then I find the person's rec on one of those threads, clever indeed.

[morningfog]

19. Their Bernie hate is burning them up.

[UglyGreed]

20. Seems to be

[Chichiri]

21. What's that picture from? nt

[Dynamite Dave]

32. Here

http://asc-vfx.com/design/

[Chichiri]

35. Cool, thanks. nt

[Cali_Democrat]

17. Hillary will lose the general election because of anonymous posts on the interwebz?

[mythology]

7. There are ways to discuss the delegate math constructively

This isn't it. I get it. You're happy that your candidate is ahead. But being rude about it isn't helpful.

[Chichiri]

15. I've tried niceness. I've tried reason. To no avail. nt

[imagine2015]

16. I'm listening. Try harder.

[Chichiri]

18. Okay.

The proportional nature of the elections, combined with the low percentage of remaining delegates that Hillary needs to clinch the nomination, makes it virtually impossible that Bernie will win the nomination. Further division within the Party cannot be constructive, but can only be destructive. This does not mean that Bernie should drop out, necessarily, nor that Bernie supporters should not offer constructive criticism. But it does mean that Bernie supporters need to end the rhetoric that will harm the person who will become the Democratic nominee for President, as it does no good, and indicate their willingness to stand behind Hillary when she wins. By presenting a unified front we strengthen Hillary's campaign, and the sooner we do it, the greater that strengthening.

That's the short version.

[Waiting For Everyman]

24. If "end the rhetoric" means cover up the ugly stuff about her,

instead of calling it out, that's preposterous.

Half the country would like to vote, and do it without HRC's camp trying to discourage them.

Math is one thing but it's not everything. Unless you are claiming that you are clairvoyant, you don't know who the nominee is going to be.

If and when she wins (at the convention) that will be time enough to ask us if we're willing to "stand behind her". And don't you think it's just a teensy bit inappropriate to expect Sanders supporters to "strengthen Hillary's campaign"?

She's just going to have to wait it out. And so will her supporters.

[Chichiri]

25. Before I answer, are you amenable to logic and reason?

And are there any places where you've demonstrated this?

It's more productive to use these tools, but it also takes more effort, and to be blunt, it's not as much fun as biting sarcasm. So I'll engage you if you can show I won't be wasting my time.

[highprincipleswork]

39. How about the logic and reason of not bullying, discarding, or marginalizing a fervent and large...

part of the Democratic Party and the American electorate?

Hillary supporters love to talk numbers, as if that was all there is to life. Because the numbers have always been in Hillary's favor. What's been in Bernie's favor? The authenticity of standing for things that many believe in for a long time, long enough to believe he will honestly fight for those things. BUT MORE THAN THIS, the urgent spirit of the American people, simply dying to be heard, to be recognized, to be represented.

Now you would like all those people, once shown that they can be represented and given a voice, to sit back down and quietly vote for someone they don't believe in. Why? Because of the boogeyman called Trump.

if it is Hillary and Trump, Trump may very well run to the Left of Hillary on several or many issues. Then you may really have a probem on your hands.

You know, I think Hillary supporters who in any way lean Progressive should be spending their time and breath not in beating up on the Bernie supporters, who yes, the numbers say are losing, and write letters or use any influence you can to let Hillary know how important it is for her to actually be Progressive in this election and beyond.

This spirit, now awakened, given a representative and voice, is not going to be easy to settle down. It doesn't want to settle down. It wants representation, and it wants it NOW!!!

[NurseJackie]

33. Fire meet fire.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

26. Stop trolling, please

I just sat on a jury to hide one of your detractors posts, and they deserved it.

But you are doing no one any favors.

[Chichiri]

27. I've done at least two people favors.

They PMed me and told me that thanks to my efforts, they've realized how ridiculous they're being.

They could have been trolling me, I suppose . . .

[Waiting For Everyman]

28. Way to make the Democrats Abroad feel like crap.

You're so busy trying to cut down Sanders you forget all about the voters who just gave him a win he and they might like to celebrate a little first before you tell them it doesn't matter.

Every vote matters. Including the ones you don't care about. It's really rude, you know.

[Chichiri]

29. ...says one of the guys who have marginalized EVERY southern state. nt

[Waiting For Everyman]

42. First of all, I'm not a guy.

Secondly, I may be mistaken but I strongly doubt that I made any comment about any state in any thread that was reporting the initial results. Seems to me, any comment of mine was in threads discussing analysis about it well afterwards.

Third, noting that in general, Dems do not win Red states in the South in the General Election is stating a well-known fact. There's nothing I can do to marginalize it, the South has marginalized itself, as far as the Dem GE goes.

Fourth, my comment was in rebuttal to the deceptively disparaging remarks by your side. Don't like the rebuttal, don't start the spin.

And note that your side started it again this time -- it is YOUR OP.

[KingFlorez]

30. Math hurts

[MaggieD]

34. LOL!