2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf HRC wasn't "ignoring the black vote" by staying in after Super Tuesday in '08...
...Bernie isn't ignoring or disrespecting the black vote by staying in now.
Nor is he saying that the votes of southern black people won't matter in the fall.
He was just saying it's unlikely that any Dem, including HRC, can carry any significant number of southern STATES in the fall.
The truth is, other than North Carolina, Virginia and maybe Florida, we have no chance of winning any southern electoral votes this fall.
Bernie lost AA voters on Super Tuesday this year. That doesn't mean the only way he can show respect to those voters is to withdraw before most of the voters in the Democratic nominating process, including most AA voters, can have a say.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)asuhornets
(2,405 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)I would not be able to visit this website at all, ever.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)ebayfool
(3,411 posts)dsc
(52,155 posts)the argument that person is making is that by saying this
She creamed us in Mississippi and Louisiana and South Carolina, he said, before adding that Democrats are not going to win those states in the general election.
As we head to the west coast, which is probably the most progressive part of America, I think as you go forward youre going to see us doing better and better.
he is disrespecting the black vote. Not by merely staying in the race.
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)And readers can make up there own minds.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)It failed. Again.
stranger81
(2,345 posts)Like a junkyard dog with a rancid bone.
onecaliberal
(32,813 posts)how many of your states collectively did it take to get 700 delegates?
hack89
(39,171 posts)it doesn't matter how many total delegates California has - all that matters is the net delegates the winner gets. And that won't be a big number.
KMOD
(7,906 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Your post is incoherent.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)PragmaticLiberal
(904 posts)I assume this is in reference to another post?
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)He's disrespecting the black vote by saying they don't matter if they're in red states.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Revisionist Cheerleader on AIDS. The smug straights of DU waltzed right passed that while patting themselves on the backs for being all about the people and anyone who is informed sees that as hugely ghoulish or fully ignorant and neither thing is good.
Meanwhile, Bernie can't talk about electoral politics without the footnote committee explaining the offense in every syllable. Because he speaks, he's racist but Hillary can shit on LGBT and praise monsters while you all cheer. I think the double standard is embarrassing coming out of adult persons.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Your camp, on the other hand, lionizes Reagan voters like MannyGoldstein and Elizabeth Warren.
Sorry, BNW, but you're actually going to have make a substantive reply at some point rather than just trying to paint any person you disagree with as the prime enemy of all things LGBT.
Bernie Sanders, his surrogates, his supporters, and his wife have habitually written off the southern Democratic voters, primarily African Americans, by saying they won't win those votes in the general election. Of course, the point's irrelevant, because primaries and general elections are not the same contests. It's astoundingly offensive on its own, but for the camp that had so obsessively tried to link Sanders to MLK, discounting the votes of southern blacks is just two-faced.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)He was saying we won't carry most of those states.
No Dem will ever carry Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana or South Carolina again.
That isn't an attack on southern blacks, it's a comment on the unchangeable white supremacist views of the vast majority of southern WHITES.
And Bernie will do just as well among AA voters and southern white in the fall as HRC would. She can't get any votes there against the GOP that Bernie wouldn't get.
Skid Rogue
(711 posts)Stupidest thing I've ever heard.
Bernie wants to win, pure and simple. He's not going to win, but why the hell drag in the AA vote?