How is Hillary going to stop

[gabeana]

the Obstructionism of the last 8 years,
Only if she has large coattails and Senate turns Dem ( which can happen) and the House goes Blue ( very unlikely)
the other way is adopt Bill's strategy of tacking to the right

what is the more realistic way for her, I think we know

[geek tragedy]

1. if Trump is their nominee, the House is in play.

most policy accomplishments will be as they are under Obama--executive action.

[gabeana]

3. Oh please make it true

so that would be great, and make them good Dems not blue dogs

[giftedgirl77]

2. Well at least we know she has support of the Dems already in congress.

That's a lot more than others can say.

[KMOD]

4. Exactly.

And that's more important than Bernie's plan of simply telling Turtle to look out his window.

[gabeana]

5. The problem they have to be Dems that are not Blue dogs

Obama struggled with Blue Dems when congress was controlled, and majority them lost because they lacked leadership they were Republican lite, now if these are strong Dems then it means something

[giftedgirl77]

7. Did I miss somewhere along the way when recommendations

weren't a huge factor in higher level positions? Hell even I've had to get reccs, interview & provide years of training & accomplishments for special positions throughout my career.

[gabeana]

10. ? n/t

[KMOD]

11. Amazing, isn't it. Not one colleague

in the Senate has backed Sanders. Not one.

[gabeana]

12. So why have

of all these colleagues not been able to stop GOP obstructionism

[KMOD]

25. The GOP are always obstructionists.

And President Obama has been masterful at getting things accomplished despite that.

Hillary also has experience in getting things accomplished despite the GOP tactics.

[giftedgirl77]

14. That speaks volumes as to his relationship with colleagues.

But yet he wants to be put on the world stage.

[gabeana]

16. You ripping Obama too

not talking about Sanders talking about President Obama

[gabeana]

17. good job of ignoring the Topic it is not about Sander's

stay focused

[gabeana]

6. What good is that

if they are not in the majority
kind of a throw away comment, nice try but no substance

[giftedgirl77]

8. Oh yeah your right. Having the support of the ppl working there

is useless.

[gabeana]

9. So Obama

does not have the support of the Dem's in congress that is why Repugs are obstructionist?

please explain

[giftedgirl77]

18. How the fuck do you go from no dem support= rethug obstruction??

You lack the ability to have a rational conversation.

[gabeana]

19. How is Hillary going to stop obstructionism?

With a Republican controlled congress
this was the thread you have gone on your own rant
so how is she going to do it

i can't wait for your answer because you are so rational

[KMOD]

29. It has already been explained to you by others in this thread.

Hillary does have long coattails, and Republicans will always be obstructionists.

[gabeana]

36. So her coattails are going to change the congress

and in the 90's the clinton's couldn't get health care reform with a Dem congress

[KMOD]

40. Yes, I know all about the health care battle.

It's been a long hard fight, one that Senator Sanders has not been too helpful with.

[gabeana]

51. explain how he is not been helpful

see i like to have people have to back up what they say

[KMOD]

55. Everytime we are a step away from real progress,

he attempts to push unrealistic demands. He thankfully does eventually back down and lets progress happen.

I'm stunned that he has the gall to claim he helped write the ACA. He didn't. He pushed legislation that had no backing and was eventually tossed out. But at least he voted the correct way on the ACA. I'll give him credit for that.

[gabeana]

60. Like Universal Health Care?

Something that the majority of Industrial powers have, free college, something that we used to have throughout the country and our peers have
The banks should be held accountable, you disagree
Why are these unrealistic?

[gabeana]

32. Waiting for your answer

crickets, crickets

you talk big come on back it up

what is she going to be able to do that Obama could not

[KMOD]

49. You have your answers.

Not everyone is required to respond to you.

Not everyone has the patience to give your inquiries a response. Especially since your question changes in every other post.

[gabeana]

50. no I don't

that is just weak on your part can't answer it just weak

[KMOD]

57. I have answered you.

Several times now.

[gabeana]

61. No you didn't

you kind of did a little bit below but that is the best i can expect from you

[KMOD]

62. Excuse me?

I don't even know you.

[gabeana]

64. You replied to one of my post below

That is what I was referring to

[KMOD]

27. Republicans are always obstructionists.

[OhZone]

30. touche! nt

[Donald Ian Rankin]

13. She's not, unfortunately, but she'll oppose it more effectively than Sanders would. N.T.

[gabeana]

15. Like Bill did

"After the 1994 midterm, when Dems lost the House and Senate, Bill Clinton was told to “move to the center.” He obliged by hiring the pollster Dick Morris, declaring the “era of big government is over,” abandoning much of his original agenda, and making the 1996 general election about nothing more than V-chips in televisions and school uniforms."

http://robertreich.org/post/1398873669

[AtomicKitten]

20. Exactly, and that's precisely what Hillary will do: Support and sign GOP-inspired legislation.

In Michael Moore's words, Bill Clinton was the best Republican president. Some of the worst, the most harmful legislation was signed during Bill's tenure, and we can expect the same from Hillary.

[gabeana]

21. Have you noticed that the Hillary

supporters have ignored the question at hand

[AtomicKitten]

23. Yes, I have, and that's why we can't have grown-up, civilized, fact-based conversations here.

[KMOD]

33. excuse me for a minute

[AtomicKitten]

35. thank you for illustrating my point

[Donald Ian Rankin]

47. Have you noticed that I answered it full-on?

I was asked how Hillary was going to end GOP obstructionism, and I answered that she (probably) wasn't going to be able to, and would have to put up with it, unfortunately.

So perhaps a better question is "have you noticed how Sanders supporters ignore inconvenient answers?"

[gabeana]

53. No you haven't

just empty comment how is she going to do it better than Sanders. just by saying she will doesn't mean she will
all slogan and no hat

so tell how is going to better than Sanders, especially since in the 90's all the Clinton's did after losing the house tacked to the right

Sadly this is scaring me nothing to back up you argument just

then if she can't do it you must, but won't , Bill was attacking Obama,
good loyal Dem

[politicaljunkie41910]

22. I'm not concerned about GOP obstructionism with Hillary. She's not a black man from Kenya.

When Hillary wins, the obstructionism aimed at President Obama will end. The GOP will have seen the light. After all, the anger being expressed by white voters is related to the GOP obstructionists tactics aimed at trying to deny President Obama any legislative successes. Their voters were mere pawns who simply got caught up in their battle and they were willing to sacrifice their own, on behalf of the CAUSE.

However, the GOP establishment will have seen the light (named Trump) should he not succeed that came perilously close to destroying their party. I think they will take the subsequent 2016 Autopsy Report, more seriously, this time around. If Hillary wins, it means that the Dems also take the Senate, and will probably gain additional seats in the House, as well. The GOP will have no choice but to work with her.

[gabeana]

24. Is this sarcasm?

Lol, yeah because she will not be up for re-election 2020,

and they didn't go after Clinton's in the 1990's

thanks for the laugh

[Lucinda]

31. I agree that Trump's rise will get them out of their obstructionist mode.

Their voters are pissed off. Changes everything.

[Vattel]

26. She won't be able to stop it. Serius change requires a new congress

that is more progressive.

[gabeana]

28. Which should tell all

the deniers that Bill was ripping Obama
but Hillary supporters live in denial on the issue

[Vattel]

34. Bill was ripping Obama and Republicans in the Congress.

"A lot of people say you don't understand that it's rigged now," he said of the nation's struggling economy. "Yeah, it's rigged now, because you don't have a president who's a change-maker, who, with a Congress who will work with him."

[gabeana]

37. I agree n/t

[Punkingal]

42. As if Hilary will be a change maker.

[KMOD]

38. No. Anyone of reasonable mind knows that he was referring

to Republican Obstructionists and that they own that legacy and the voters and all citizens see that and are sick of it. If the Republicans continue to obstruct a third Democratic Presidential term, they will do so at their own peril.

[gabeana]

41. So how

is Hillary going to change the obstructionism
is your answer is that she is going to have a Dem controlled congress?

or the Repubs will magically stop because she is president?

[KMOD]

44. I think that Hillary on top of the ticket in November

will absolutely help the democratic down ticket. I think we have a great chance to retake the Senate as well as pick up House seats.

As far as the obstructionists, in case you haven't noticed, their party is in complete disarray right now. They are now obstructing themselves. All because of their tizzy with President Obama. That actually might wind up being President Obama's greatest accomplishment. He's the President that reduced their party to a circus act. hahahaha

[gabeana]

58. Ok at least that

was somewhat an answer

[Vattel]

45. What he said suggests otherwise. He "is not a change-maker" is pretty unambiguous.

[Dem2]

39. This isn't a Hillary problem, this is a Democratic Party problem

The implication in this post is funny. We all know what you're saying, but it's clumsy since no other President will be a magician or spell-caster over Congress.

[gabeana]

43. I agree totally with what you are saying

so then why is Bill throwing Obama under the bus in this regard

[Dem2]

46. One thing I don't give much of a f*** about

What's the latest way in which the candidate's spouse has put his foot in his mouth.

Not very high on my list of concerns.

[gabeana]

52. Yeah I know Bill is just a regular

spouse you know being former President and all
another empty reply sad state affairs with no back bone with some on this board

[Dem2]

54. He's not the same person he was

I think that's obvious. My dad has also had open heart surgery and I know the effects it can have on a person.

Hillary is the candidate, there's more than enough to criticize her about.

[gabeana]

56. what?

So you know Bill personally?

and i hope your dad is doing well,

[Dem2]

59. This had been discussed previously here, so I made an assumption...

I and others discussed his deteriorating health a while back. Things happen inside one's brain while disconnected from their natural heartbeat during the surgery. Memory issues are the most obvious, but there are other issues that can affect personality. Some believe it's affected Bill. Based on my observations, and personal experience, I tend to agree.

[gabeana]

63. Didn't Bill Say

“A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee,” Clinton is quoted as saying in “Game Change,” by John Heilemann and Mark Halperin.

He has, for example, called Obama “incompetent” and “an amateur” who has no clue about how the world operates, according to an article in Sunday’s Post by Edward Klein, author of “The Amateur: Barack Obama in the White House.”

“Obama doesn’t know how to be president,” Clinton told friends and political advisers last year, the article added. “He doesn’t know how the world works.”

Klein said Clinton had convened a meeting at his Chappaqua, Westchester, home to urge his wife to challenge Obama for the 2012 nomination.

now wasn't this after his heart surgery

[Bjornsdotter]

48. No worries

She will simply tell them to "Cut it out."

[runaway hero]

65. I think

I think she can try to work with the senate. I feel the House is in play for 2020.