losing by 57 and 60 points IS NOT A DEFEAT

[reddread]

but winning by a fraction of a percent in a questionably ran contest like Iowa is
A HUGE VICTORY!

keep it straight

[DanTex]

1. Utah, baby! Everyone's new favorite state!

[cherokeeprogressive]

20. Bryce Canyon is one of the most amazing places on earth.

Panguitch Lake is one of the top 10 trout fishing lakes in the United States. And if you haven't skied Park City, and you're a skier, you really haven't skied at all.

So there's that.

[deathrind]

27. I agree, Bryce Canyon is

A spectacular place!

[William Seger]

40. Bryce Canyon is my 2nd most favorite

... after Arches.

[cherokeeprogressive]

41. Visit Kartchner Caverns someday.

Most amazing thing. The story is awesome too.

[rjsquirrel]

2. Losing in states where you didn't campaign

and have zero chance of a general election win and where fewer than 100k Dems even show up (combined!) to caucuses....

Ok you have it your way. But realize it's lol territory to anyone with a realistic view of politics.

Clinton could actually make Arizona competitive in the general with Latino support. Idaho and Utah will not be blue in any of our lifetimes.

[reddread]

3. I cherish the reality based community

Im hoping President Sanders will look after them with enhanced services.

[Lazy Daisy]

24. So you're discounting an entire population of a state?

I see. Thought good Dems didn't do that. Isn't that the same exact argument Bernie supporters said about SC and were called on the carpet for that?

So why is it OK for you to make a claim that Idaho doesn't count, but when Bernie supporters said the same thing about SC it's not OK?

Please clarify.

[dchill]

28. Discounting? No, triangulating.

[reddread]

4. Ive heard Utah is a beautiful state

but how can it compare to the innate beauty of Mississippi, Alabama and all those
wonderful southern states and their rich Democratic traditions?

no contest.

[MADem]

5. Well, to hear tell, Arizona and Ohio and Illinois are "southern states" too!

[JaneyVee]

6. Massachusetts = confederacy!

[MADem]

14. We actually have an old PLANTATION in "Plimoth!"

http://www.plimoth.org/?gclid=CKehpZmM18sCFddahgodCkQKlw

[reddread]

7. Arizona is the west coast's Florida

very beautiful state.
the people that live there?

[MADem]

9. What does "...the people that live there?" mean?

I know a very nice retired couple who lived there for many years--it was affordable and sunny, which is why they chose it.

[reddread]

12. no broad brush from me

but this fellow seems right up their alley
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio

[MADem]

15. He's a wingnut asshole. nt

[reddread]

21. he is the face of Arizona politics

[MADem]

31. He's a wingnut asshole who brutalizes prisoners and people who haven't even been convicted

of a crime, but are in holding.

He's a disgrace. If he's "the face of Arizona politics" then that face is a raddled, ugly ASS.

[reddread]

32. tell it to Arizona voters

you know the ones.

[MADem]

33. Why don't YOU? nt

[reddread]

34. what for? even you dont want to hear it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1558322

[MADem]

36. You're the one claiming that EVERYONE in AZ sucks, not me. nt

[reddread]

37. courtesy response

bye

[JaneyVee]

8. Of course its a defeat, but...

Hillary is playing the delegate map. Which is why she was outspent and didnt campaign there. She won the popular vote though.

[reddread]

10. she didnt need Michigan?

[JaneyVee]

11. Should we do a recount in Michigan?

[reddread]

13. we should do a recount everywhere

anytime it is asked for.

doesnt work that way, does it?

[oberliner]

16. Hillary lost Utah and Idaho

No one has claimed otherwise.

[litlbilly]

23. and by a shitload

[oasis]

26. Mormon states aren't too keen on women taking over the driver's seat.

[reddread]

35. numbers that looked like DU

isnt that something?

[oberliner]

39. Bernie does extremely well in states that are 90+ percent white

In states where most Democratic voters are non-white, such as Alabama and Mississippi, Hillary has won by similar margins.

[workinclasszero]

18. Bernie fans have been telling us for months that

Red states don't count!

Why the sudden turnaround I wonder? SMH

[SidDithers]

19. Didja check the delegate count this morning?...

Not too different from yesterday, eh?

tick tock

Sid

[bigtree]

22. winning by 2% and 7 delegates in MI is 'historic'

...Hillary winning by 66 points in MS on the same day gets a

[reddread]

29. actually I heard it was

when the polling experts screw up that bad, it becomes notable.
Same polling experts cited every day here, turning out to be bullshit come election day every time.
and bullshit all along.

[John Poet]

25. GOOD, so Bernie didn't lose in the Confederacy

after all...

[Zynx]

30. Of course, it didn't matter when Hillary did it in Alabama and Mississippi.

[jwirr]

38. LOL Well stated.