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Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:03 AM Mar 2016

Bernie Sanders is facing a moment of truth in his political career.

Bernie Sanders is facing a moment of truth in his political career. He can move into a new phase of the Democratic primary with a focus on issues and on radical Republicans, or he can continue trying to take down Hillary Clinton. So far, unfortunately, he has chosen the latter. And he’s taking shots at Barack Obama and Bill Clinton in the process.


http://bluenationreview.com/bernie-takes-another-veiled-swipe-at-obama/
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Bernie Sanders is facing a moment of truth in his political career. (Original Post) Cryptoad Mar 2016 OP
He's choosing the low road. MoonRiver Mar 2016 #1
pointing out how HRC continuallly takes the low road, and worse, is now "the low road"? amborin Mar 2016 #8
that's exactly where hillary is. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #16
Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #28
+1000 stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #34
Bernie has a lot more than one moment of truth. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #2
" just more Brock super PAC spew" because David Brock's Big Lie strategy is still in play. Dragonfli Mar 2016 #18
That's who she pals around with . . . and gets foreign policy advice from a war criminal pdsimdars Mar 2016 #30
Either way he is fighting republicans so why the complaints? CBGLuthier Mar 2016 #3
He is the issue candidate. The rest is propaganda. mmonk Mar 2016 #4
Yes, but those narrowly-focused issues are not resonating wit the voters Tarc Mar 2016 #21
Pointing out honest differences between yourself and your opponent is not going negative. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #22
I'm afraid not Tarc Mar 2016 #24
He has taken the only path forward yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #5
Indeed, he is taking the latter... FarPoint Mar 2016 #6
He is the ONLY true Democrat in this race. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #32
BERN is not a true Democrat. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #37
Awwwwwww, Poor Hillary. That mean old Bernie Armstead Mar 2016 #7
HAHAHA - bluenationreview revbones Mar 2016 #9
Sanders has been 1000 times more gentle on Hillary than Hillary was on Obama in 2008 Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #10
Troll bait... HumanityExperiment Mar 2016 #11
He has chosen the latter? This is a LIE. Bye now. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #12
Sanders is a mean meanie? Orsino Mar 2016 #13
Maybe even a Blue Meanie! haikugal Mar 2016 #33
Brock Nation Review frylock Mar 2016 #14
Hillary's thoughtful and eloquent supporters taught me how to react to this thread ... Scuba Mar 2016 #15
Double Plus Good Armstead Mar 2016 #19
That is exactly it. It is their reply to the "t" pdsimdars Mar 2016 #36
Oh, look... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #17
Bluenationreview again? Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #20
I don't expect Sanders to give up until Hortensis Mar 2016 #23
Agree. He can continue to try to salvage the party and working people, or he can give up and Doctor_J Mar 2016 #25
For his entire career, before his election, he claimed Democrats and Republicans are the same. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #26
Any winner knows you should focus on your CURRENT opponent. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #27
Poor Hillary, he's being mean to her. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #29
...... daleanime Mar 2016 #31
The "disaster of the last eight years" came from Bill Clinton's lips last I checked. ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #35
Heel Bernie, heel! jalan48 Mar 2016 #38
You do understand he is competing with her at this moment. Half-Century Man Mar 2016 #39
Poor Hillary pdsimdars Mar 2016 #40
OMG! Hillary Clinton has continuously lied about Sanders in debates and rallies. She bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #41

Response to MoonRiver (Reply #1)

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
2. Bernie has a lot more than one moment of truth.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:05 AM
Mar 2016

I suppose it might be noteworthy for the BNR to discuss a single moment of truth given the duplicity of HRC.

This is just more Brock super PAC spew.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
18. " just more Brock super PAC spew" because David Brock's Big Lie strategy is still in play.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:29 AM
Mar 2016

Neither proof nor truth matter, those posts have to do with the "BIG LIE" Strategy that Brock and the Clinton campaign are using as a large tool in their dirty tricks box.

His "internet specialists" (legal supposedly, but based on a very loose interpretation of a loop hole)
can be paid by a super-PAC to coordinate directly with her campaign if it is only involved via the internet,

Some of these employees are paid to post an all forms of social media, and often do, especially when it regards the Big Lie tactics when they are used, which rely on repetition of the lie in order to make people believe the lie even when faced with solid facts to the contrary.

Expect these lies to be continuously spread, along with other lies pushed as truth via the Big Lie tactic that they have been employing liberally. (perhaps the only true sentence involving the word liberally in connection with Clinton, a right wing candidate within the Democratic party.)

Joseph Goebbels: On the "Big Lie"

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
30. That's who she pals around with . . . and gets foreign policy advice from a war criminal
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:57 AM
Mar 2016

Known by the company they keep.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
3. Either way he is fighting republicans so why the complaints?
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:06 AM
Mar 2016

More and more I have realized my issue with the Clintons is the fact they are really republicans. Old guard, 50s era republicans.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
21. Yes, but those narrowly-focused issues are not resonating wit the voters
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:34 AM
Mar 2016

thus his decision to go negative, which is a shame.

thesquanderer

(11,982 posts)
22. Pointing out honest differences between yourself and your opponent is not going negative.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:39 AM
Mar 2016

Misrepresenting your opponent's positions is. Hillary is the only one of the two of them who is doing that.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
24. I'm afraid not
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:42 AM
Mar 2016

Sanders need to find another tone than hand-waving anger around 6 weeks ago. That didn't materialize, thus the delegate hole he is in now.

FarPoint

(12,309 posts)
6. Indeed, he is taking the latter...
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:06 AM
Mar 2016

Not very " revolution like" at all. Why is he running as a Democrat anyway? Remind me of the given rationale by Sanders.

 

revbones

(3,660 posts)
9. HAHAHA - bluenationreview
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:08 AM
Mar 2016

You do realize that BNR is not even a media outlet at all anymore right? It's owned by Hillary's super-PAC for hte express reason of creating propoganda now.

Reposting anything from Peter Daou would be like soliciting advice for Hillary from Jane Sanders.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
11. Troll bait...
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:09 AM
Mar 2016

Wow, another HRC supporter tossing troll bait out yet again...

Interesting to see so MANY posts angling for Bernie to exit the primary process without allowing the rest of the states that haven't given their votes consideration to this primary process

Why do these HRC supporters posting these OPs hate these voters that haven't cast their votes yet?

See how that works... trolling like these HRC supporters are attempting makes me laugh

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
13. Sanders is a mean meanie?
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:11 AM
Mar 2016

If he wants the win more than Clinton does, I welcome the messaging I'm hearing.

He hasn't yet been brought to heel.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
23. I don't expect Sanders to give up until
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:40 AM
Mar 2016

it is technically next to impossible for him to win. I'll eat my screen if he is not a True Believer in his own crusade. That said, at that point I expect him to commit to electing Democrats.

If he did not, then I'd know what to think of him. At this point, I still reserve the slightly shredded belief that he will prove to be worthy of his place on our ticket.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
25. Agree. He can continue to try to salvage the party and working people, or he can give up and
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:43 AM
Mar 2016

let the corrupt, sociopathic, conservative half of the party work with the Paul Ryans and Mitch McConnells of the world to turn this into a third world country.

Given his fifty years of unwavering principles, I think I know which path he'll take.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
26. For his entire career, before his election, he claimed Democrats and Republicans are the same.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:49 AM
Mar 2016

He is a Democrat now because Sanders says he ran as a Democrat for 'media coverage'.
There is nothing that surprises me about his attempts to take down Secretary of State Clinton. He will continue to do so until California has voted.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
27. Any winner knows you should focus on your CURRENT opponent.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:54 AM
Mar 2016

People who ignore their current opponent are destined to LOSE.

These are things that winning people know.

As soon as he gets the nomination, he can focus on that opponent.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
39. You do understand he is competing with her at this moment.
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:01 PM
Mar 2016

You do understand that if no one here takes about the vulnerabilities of each candidate, those vulnerabilities don't vanish.

Open discussion of those vulnerabilities is how we, together, make arguments to counter them. Open discussions of the actual weaknesses and strengths of each candidate is how we all get strong enough to win.

This stupid blind party loyalty, which was adopted when the third way types regime changed the DNC, has steadily weakened the party for decades now. The rebound of the liberal/progressive/radical left, currently fronted by Bernie Sanders, is a reawakening of the spontaneous rebellious frustrating glorious chaos that metamorphisizes into a party platform at the national convention. It is suppose to go on until the summer.

Carefully scripted doctrine handed down from on high, is republican as hell and fuck that.

bkkyosemite

(5,792 posts)
41. OMG! Hillary Clinton has continuously lied about Sanders in debates and rallies. She
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 12:09 PM
Mar 2016

She has made him seem dishonest and not electable...she is getting a run for running of her mouth.

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