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Bloomberg: Bernie Sanders would beat Donald Trump by 24 points
By MattTurner
DailyKos, Thursday Mar 24, 2016 · 4:52 PM EDT
It is time for the mainstream media to stop claiming that Hillary Clinton is the strongest Democrat to face the Republicans in November.
She never was. That was always corporate spin. But after this poll was released by Bloomberg Politics, it should be clear Bernie Sanders is equally capable of taking on Donald Trump this November.
According to this match up, he would knock Trump out of the park by a staggering 24 points.
Spectating this primary contest from across the Atlantic in the United Kingdom, it would be horrifying to see the American people have to choose between the two least favourable and least trustworthy candidates in the entire process. Stop punishing yourselves. You deserve better.
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/3/24/1505817/-Bloomberg-Bernie-Sanders-beats-Donald-Trump-by-24-points
djean111
(14,255 posts)and nothing detrimental about Hillary was going to be shown at DKos?
And, of course, that article is spot on.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)...I found the article via:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/24/1490139/-I-have-personally-been-to-a-closed-door-corporate-Clinton-speech-This-is-what-I-experienced
It was one of those little side bar headlines: The article does a nice job of explaining how the Bill Clinton speech he went to thanked the corporation and if Hillary's speeches are like that she too would have been thanking more than a few nefarious corporate logos that would act as cement life rings.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Or, after Super Tuesday 2.
Or, after Super Tuesday 3.
Or, after Kind of Neat Wednesday.
Or, sumpting like that.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Wouldn't they immediately start putting all their effort into supporting Bernie, who has the best chance of beating Trump????
I see my error. . . . "rational" mind. sorry, my mistake.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)...and Bernie's drawing on Dems and the growing middle population, we would be well on the way toward uniting 80-percent of the country that is rational, at least long enough to vote. Trump only represents the 1-percent and their gunslinger cadre. At most, 10-percent. Throw in their captive minds, 20-percent.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)because Bernie is well on his way to losing the Democratic primaries.
It makes no sense to talk about something that will never happen.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)I prefer to let the voters decide. It's called Democracy.
Seeing how Corporate McPravda is a monopoly owned and operated by oligarchs, someone has to support the First Amendment.
That's why I post on DU.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)And, hey, thanks for kicking my vote in CA into the gutter, along with the votes of millions of others on the LEFT COAST!
Keep it up! You create so many charming reasons for NOT voting for Clinton.
speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)and make it stick, because like or dislike his positions, Bernie is sincere beyond all doubt and everyone knows he is speaking from his heart.
The Clintons have a history of saying whatever helps them at the moment.
That actually makes Bernie more electable against Trump. Not against a guy like Kasich, though.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)Sanders beats Kasich by 4 points. Clinton loses to Kasich by 4 points.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511568499
MisterP
(23,730 posts)has Sanders ever roved right of Trump because that's how he thinks elections are won
speaktruthtopower
(800 posts)clearly overlap.
Trump's offputting style notwithstanding, some of his positions are surprising.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)Social-Security destruction, attacks on healthcare, outsourcing, loan sharking, locking up a third of black youth, and border fences!"
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Last edited Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:32 PM - Edit history (1)
The delegate math just isn't there for that to happen.
With that said, Sanders numbers now would not be the same as Sanders numbers in the general. After having been put through the ringer with a barrage of negative ads, there is no way Sanders would lead by 24 points let alone even win.
Peace Patriot
(24,010 posts)...on the LEFT COAST!
You know this is a lie. You know he can, indeed, win it--not easy, but doable--on the west coast and other remaining states.
He is GAINING, not falling behind, in delegates as, of March 22, where he netted 26 delegates, by whomping Clinton in Idaho (with 79% of the vote) and Utah (80%!) combined with proportional delegates from AZ. He also won Democrats Abroad by a big margin.
It really is a lie to say he "isn't going to be the Democratic nominee." THAT HAS NOT BEEN DECIDED BY THE VOTERS!
KingFlorez
(12,689 posts)Sanders will win 80% in California, then win the nomination, yahoo!!
jfern
(5,204 posts)They just weren't right about who would have the worse than McGovern defeat.
amborin
(16,631 posts)2banon
(7,321 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,272 posts)Thanks for the thread, Octafish.