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NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 02:56 PM Mar 2016

New Details Reveal Possible Voter Suppression in Illinois Primary



Thousands of Illinois primary voters turned away from polling places due to lack of ballots have been denied their vote after a recent court ruling.

In six counties across Illinois — Adams, Champaign, Effingham, Madison, Sangamon, and St. Clair — polling places ran out of ballots amid higher-than-expected voter turnout, meaning thousands of voters were sent home after waiting in line. On March 17, Adams County state attorney Jon Barnard went before Adams County circuit judge Chet Vahle to ask for an injunction that would grant those voters the ability to vote late due to ballot issues.

The next day, Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan, an ardent Hillary Clinton supporter who has introduced her at campaign rallies, filed an appeal in Illinois 4th District Appellate Court to prevent late voting. On March 23, the appellate court issued a stay on Judge Vahle’s injunction, meaning those voters won’t get a chance to cast ballots in this primary. Hillary Clinton won Illinois by roughly 35,000 votes, or a slim 1.8 percent margin, effectively splitting delegates with Sanders.

Link: http://usuncut.com/politics/illinois-democratic-establishment-refuses-to-allow-late-voting-for-voters-turned-away-from-polls/


I always kind of figured things would get "ugly" since the establishment would not go down easily, but I never suspected as to extreme degree their manipulative powers over the voting process.

The hits just keep on coming!


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New Details Reveal Possible Voter Suppression in Illinois Primary (Original Post) NorthCarolina Mar 2016 OP
...... daleanime Mar 2016 #1
We have the best government NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #2
True.... daleanime Mar 2016 #4
Hillary supporter tries to stop voting! CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #3
This is what we're up against. NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #5
Plus in a caucus state the voters come and do not expect to jwirr Mar 2016 #7
I'm in a caucus state... CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #9
it was no accident that obama focused on the caucus states...he knew about the machine counts questionseverything Mar 2016 #14
Money NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #16
The problem is the entire establishment: all those with vested interests Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #17
"higher than expected turnout" - that excuse is getting old. jwirr Mar 2016 #6
If the number of people who didn't get to vote doesn't exceed or even come close... Tarc Mar 2016 #8
And if it did? kristopher Mar 2016 #10
That's a far stretch from "thousands of people" to 35,000 Tarc Mar 2016 #12
So it is a matter of economics over people rights, if only symbolic in the outcome mrdmk Mar 2016 #11
hyperbole much? Tarc Mar 2016 #13
Hyperbole, MY ASS! This crap has been addressed and will continue going on until action has meaning mrdmk Mar 2016 #15
ho-hum Tarc Mar 2016 #18

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
3. Hillary supporter tries to stop voting!
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:10 PM
Mar 2016

"Lisa Madigan, an ardent Hillary Clinton supporter who has introduced her at campaign rallies filed an appeal in Illinois 4th District Appellate Court to prevent late voting."

Well of course she did! Because voting is bad and going to court to stop voting is good.

God Bless America!

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
5. This is what we're up against.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:13 PM
Mar 2016

Caucus States are turning out to be a blessing since they are apparently much harder to manipulate.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
7. Plus in a caucus state the voters come and do not expect to
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:18 PM
Mar 2016

leave immediately so the officials have time to obtain more ballots. Our caucus ran out but they started working to get more as soon as they saw the people lined up to register.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
9. I'm in a caucus state...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:28 PM
Mar 2016

...and generally that is true because caucuses are wonderfully transparent. No voting machines.

However, as we've all seen--the Clintons know how to rig systems and play dirty games in just about every state.

Many, many horrific problems in my state caucus.

questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
14. it was no accident that obama focused on the caucus states...he knew about the machine counts
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 04:45 PM
Mar 2016

this is heart breaking for me...here in illinois we looked to lisa m as one of our rising stars,turns out she is corrupt as anyone else

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
17. The problem is the entire establishment: all those with vested interests
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 05:02 PM
Mar 2016

in the untenable status quo are part of the problem, and fighting solutions at every turn.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
6. "higher than expected turnout" - that excuse is getting old.
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:16 PM
Mar 2016

All they have to do is look at the earlier elections in other states. 2016 is different. Enough.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
8. If the number of people who didn't get to vote doesn't exceed or even come close...
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:20 PM
Mar 2016

...to the margin of victory, then sorry, but it is a waste of time if it cannot affect the delegate count. We shouldn't spend taxpayer money on an attempted Pyrrhic victory.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
10. And if it did?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 03:59 PM
Mar 2016
Bernie Sanders won in four of the six Illinois counties that had ballot shortages.

- In Champaign County, Sanders beat Clinton 20,581-10,542 — almost a two-to-one margin.
- Bernie Sanders beat Clinton in rural Effingham County 1,247-867.
- Sanders won by 3,391 votes in Madison County, a Democratic Party stronghold.
- Bernie Sanders won 10,365 votes to Clinton’s 9,255 votes in Sangamon County.

In a phone interview, Adams County State’s Attorney Jon Barnard said that had there been enough ballots available in those counties, the end result may have been a Sanders win, rather than a Clinton victory.
Per OP

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
11. So it is a matter of economics over people rights, if only symbolic in the outcome
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 04:03 PM
Mar 2016

Heard it right here on D.U. In a word, "WOW!"

What is next, not being able to go from one city to the next without showing papers?

This is why people do not brother to vote, it does not matter if they do or do not.

So the next question, who benefits from people not voting and why? But we already know that answer...

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
13. hyperbole much?
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 04:23 PM
Mar 2016

Address the problems so it doesn't happen the next time, yes, but if the end result of Clinton winning would be unchanged, then there's no point in trying to do anything to affect this election cycle.

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
15. Hyperbole, MY ASS! This crap has been addressed and will continue going on until action has meaning
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 04:51 PM
Mar 2016

You have been on this board long enough to know what happens when people become disenfranchised voters. We end up with asshats like GW Bush and Dick Cheney in the Presidential office running roughshod on peoples rights and destroying the world under the shield of commerce not to mention other batshit shenanigans. Do you want to have that happen again? I really hope not...

Now, we have Democrats aiding Republicans in sending voters home without voting. There are no words for those actions. Then being told over and over again, we will get it right next time. Have to say it again in a different way, there are no words for those in-actions. In reality, this is the next time and it is certainly not about one candidate.


Maybe the phrase, "You're Fired" will wake you up. It will be a rude awaking, but awake you will be.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
18. ho-hum
Fri Mar 25, 2016, 06:12 PM
Mar 2016

Like I said, address what went wrong before the next election cycle. There's nothing to be gained now.

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