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Dear Bernie: I Like You, But These Red Flags Are Too Frequent to Ignore
02/23/2016 09:43 am ET | Updated Feb 23, 2016
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................. But Senator, we have a problem, and its a big one. When it comes to the specifics surrounding the core issue of your campaign, you have too often come across as either disingenuous or strangely removed from current reality.
The red flags have become too frequent to ignore.
You recently claimed that under your leadership, the Treasury Department will create a too-big-to fail list of banks and insurance companies.
Of course it will. The Treasury Department has been legally required to do that since the Dodd-Frank Act of 2010. The institutions are, on top of that, already subjected to stress tests, and when they fail, there are fairly serious consequences. The Departments annual report is available right here. You can find a list of these institutions on Wikipedia, for crying out loud. The Financial Stability Board also maintains a global list, which you can find right here, should you find that helpful.
Similarly, you have made a fair amount of noise calling for an independent audit of the Federal Reserve. Thats already done, every single year. You can find last years report right here.
What the plan that you and Sen. Paul have put forth does is, a) pander to low-information voters, and b) make the Federal Reserves every decision subject to congressional pressure. What you are proposing, Senator Sanders, would set the Feds independence back four decades and allow Paul Ryan to pressure it at every turn.
Even when I agree with your proposed policies, I am too often alarmed by your extreme departures from reality.
You have proposed, for example, to pay for universal free public college with a tax on Wall Street speculation. .................
But none of this holds a candle to the bizarre narrative you have consistently pushed around Glass-Steagall, your primary point of distinction from Secretary Clinton on finance. You have repeatedly insinuated, implied and said flat-out that the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which you tend to call a repeal of Glass-Steagall, caused the financial crisis.
Senator Sanders, that simply isnt true. That is a lie invented for a slimy attack ad during the 2008 campaign. There is an overwhelming consensusnot from Wall Street, but from watchdogs and academics that the repeal of Glass-Steagall did not cause the financial crisis. Fact checker after fact checker after fact checker after fact checker has found the claim to be, at best, an enormous stretch. They were doing so, from all parts of the political spectrum, years before you launched a presidential campaign.
The law had little if anything to do with the practices leading up to the crisis. It aimed, as you well know, to separate commercial from investment banking. You can support that policy or oppose it, with honest, pro-regulatory arguments on either side. I might even agree with you. But you cannot with a straight face blame the financial crisis on its absence. ....................
msongs
(67,361 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)You haven't wasted an opportunity to shit all over it.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and his issues.
Let him be.
When people chose to be ahem negative, they can rub it onto other people.
dchill
(38,447 posts)are better than my better angels. But I will refrain from engaging.
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PyaarRevolution
(814 posts)Boom! MSNBC.
Yeah I read through most of it but point b. in the bolded text. The Fed SHOULD have as much government oversight as possible considering they are a FOR PROFIT CORPORATION that prints our money then charges the govt, i.e. the American people, interest.
Our govt has the ability to print our own money and should. If it was up to me the Fed would be closed down. They've been one of the biggest problems OF our monetary policy.
I could start to go into the minutiae of the Fed's problems but that would be such a bloated convoluted series of paragraphs most of you would tune out.
I would also be surprised if at some point the Fed isn't stupid enough to go to negative interest rates like Europe or Japan has done by that point you've destroyed your currency, paraphrasing from Mr.Schiff on "Boom Bust".
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)You know, Rachel would have wanted to be able to support him. She is a strong left progressive, not an extremist, but she is a knowledgeable person and she would have supported the platform of anyone who could pass the tests of knowledgeable strong progressives.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)What is it Bernie's hard-core followers reallycare about? genuine, Progressive change, or do they just want a leader?
The election is in November. Hillary Clinton is a progressive candidate, not as far left as Bernie and intent on making most of the same changes You still have plenty of time to decide who your best chances for for real progressive changes lie with -- if that is what you want. and if you spend that time educating yourself instead of knee-jerk reacting to candidate names.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)They ARE NOT progressive in any way other than superficially..."because they present themselves as such." She's a disappointment.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)ruin the career of a very hardworking woman, Hillary in this case, and you call me nasty? Perhaps you imagine that determined "sincerity" is a protection against dishonesty. Let me disabuse your mind. This is the information age. Even the most willfully cultivated ignorance, or especially, is no excuse at all. We are all responsible for all lies we choose to believe and spread. We own them.
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Avalon Sparks
(2,560 posts)I care primarily about corruption (reps receiving kickbacks) and campaign finance reform. On a team call with about 25 Bernie volunteers, we were asked our primary reason for volunteering, reasons were split about 50/50 with top reasons being Campagn finance and costs of education being the top 2. A few others had issue with the never ending war machine. My two are CFR, and war.
I disagree about Hillary being progressive. On social issues, yes I agree she is... But her past actions and policy stances have her firmly on the right on fiscal and the war machine.
Supply side Hillary doesn't work for me, and I think we have bigger problems to solve as a nation right next then the social ones.
The way I see it lately, both party's leaders are the same now on fiscal policy and war....however they pull the bulk of supporters in with social issues, which are opposing views.
I believe most on both sides generally vote on social issues, and I'm sorry, but with little knowledge, real in depth knowledge that takes hours of research and paying attention to...on fiscal and Foriegn policy issues, many just read a few opinion pieces online and think they are an expert.
Loki
(3,825 posts)how convenient. I didn't know truth had a political ideology. I don't like hearing things that are truthful sometimes, but I'd rather have that than propaganda.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)I stopped reading. Anybody who has followed those tests knows they are a joke.
Billsmile
(404 posts)Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)... and has already been discussed and debunked.
I wonder why the OP is posting this garbage now? Also, I really doubt the author "likes" Bernie Sanders at all.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)The 'I like you but' routine is just another layer of the smarmy affectation that is Womack's stock in trade.
tblue
(16,350 posts)PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)We also need transparency. Too much of the Feds business is conducted in secret, known only to the bankers on its various boards and committees. Full and unredacted transcripts of the Federal Open Market Committee must be released to the public within six months, not five years, which is the custom now. If we had made this reform in 2004, the American people would have learned about the housing bubble well in advance of the financial crisis.
In 2010, I inserted an amendment in Dodd-Frank to audit the emergency lending by the Fed during the financial crisis. We need to go further and require the Government Accountability Office to conduct a full and independent audit of the Fed each and every year.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/23/opinion/bernie-sanders-to-rein-in-wall-street-fix-the-fed.html
The point being that currently the FED is a secretive organization that operates not in the public interest but in the interest of the big banks it supposedly "regulates". There is no reason at all why Congress and The People should not be aware in a timely fashion of just what the fed is doing and why.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Bernie. Has been for months and months and months.
progressoid
(49,951 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)nc4bo
(17,651 posts)KPN
(15,637 posts)from a blogger who obviously is getting very nervous , what with her paradigm being upended.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,158 posts)And IMO, that's the problem. $500 million to a company with gross revenue of $50 billion isn't a "fairly serious" consequence. It's an annoyance. A speed bump. Just another cost of doing business. Cut 'em a check and get 'em the hell out of my office.
No, you want "serious consequences"? Then let's talk PERCENTAGES. Just for the hell of it, let's start at 5% of gross revenue, with increases for subsequent violations. And no, they can't deduct it from taxes -- as if they paid them, anyway.
Soon enough, The Great Unwashed won't have to hope for the greedy CEOs of the world to be strung up from lamppoles. Their own stockholders will do it.
(Geez, I'm getting bloodthirsty in my old age...)
dchill
(38,447 posts)That's a tell. Trying to make a huge smear out of a tiny, pitiful falsity. Once again, be proud of your insincerity.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)To say otherwise is complete lunacy and willful ignorance
And guess who was president when it passed??
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)the emergence of a global economy. Allowing Congress to control the Fed through auditing would be a disaster. Congress paralyzes everything it touches. Finally, far Left intolerance aside, Rachel Maddow is the most prepared investigative journalist on television today. Bar none.
Gothmog
(144,939 posts)nichomachus
(12,754 posts)Oh, wait a minute.
For every "red flag" Bernie has, Mrs. Clinton has 100.
Shandris
(3,447 posts)Another beautiful example in print. Not an honest word in it, but plenty of """""""""""""""""truth""""""""""""""""""".