Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:32 PM
kenn3d (486 posts)
Voter fraud in Hawaii?
Hillary supporter tries to throw away Bernie ballots, gets kicked out.
https://twitter.com/Parker9_/status/713907623205076993 ![]() Over 100 comments at the link. Apparent effort underway to publish the cellphone video.
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Author | Time | Post |
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kenn3d | Mar 2016 | OP |
Jenny_92808 | Mar 2016 | #1 | |
Cheese Sandwich | Mar 2016 | #2 | |
rock | Mar 2016 | #6 | |
Wilms | Mar 2016 | #7 | |
DLnyc | Mar 2016 | #8 | |
jeff47 | Mar 2016 | #12 | |
FlatBaroque | Mar 2016 | #3 | |
marions ghost | Mar 2016 | #4 | |
Tanuki | Mar 2016 | #5 | |
KingFlorez | Mar 2016 | #9 | |
Impedimentus | Mar 2016 | #17 | |
Triana | Mar 2016 | #11 | |
marions ghost | Mar 2016 | #16 | |
Viva_La_Revolution | Mar 2016 | #14 | |
Triana | Mar 2016 | #10 | |
Ellipsis | Mar 2016 | #13 | |
marions ghost | Mar 2016 | #15 | |
Beacool | Mar 2016 | #18 | |
ornotna | Mar 2016 | #19 |
Response to kenn3d (Original post)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:36 PM
Jenny_92808 (1,342 posts)
1. Hillary and Repub's (one and the same)
should be discarded by voters.
I am not allowed on any jurys because I am pro-Bernie. I wonder why. No, I don't, because the owners of DU have chosen to give power to Hill-ites and take it away from Bernie supporters. FU DU owners! |
Response to kenn3d (Original post)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:39 PM
Cheese Sandwich (9,086 posts)
2. I wish people would stop saying "voter fraud"...
Voter fraud is a term Republicans use to challenge voters and say people are voting illegally.
That's pretty much the only meaning of the term. I realize people are using the term because it's the closest term they have in the common vocabulary to express that there is some cheating in the election. Maybe "election fraud" would fit better or sometimes voter suppression is the apt description. This isn't directed at DU, but more so for rest of the internet. DU members are very savvy with election vocabulary and also quite good looking. |
Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #2)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:45 PM
rock (13,218 posts)
6. You are right
By the by 'voting fraud' works for me (rather than 'voter fraud').
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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #2)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:45 PM
Wilms (26,795 posts)
7. We need a Voting Systems Teach-In.
Yep. This would not be voter fraud.
While the Repukelicans lie through their teeth about "voter fraud", they are using it correctly in claiming...ie: someone illegally voting...a "voter" who is a fraud. "Election Fraud" broadly refers to efforts to screw with an election. And that can take many forms. |
Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #2)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:47 PM
DLnyc (2,479 posts)
8. Yes, "Election Fraud" is better. Also "Vote Supression", "Voting Rights Violation", . . .
I agree, "voter fraud" is not the right term. It implies the misdeed was done by a voter, when it is typically being done by an elections official or other political actor.
Maybe "Undermining Democracy" would be a good term, too! |
Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #2)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:53 PM
jeff47 (26,549 posts)
12. Well, it is the wrong term.
Voter fraud is when a voter does something wrong.
Election fraud is when election officials or the state does something wrong. |
Response to kenn3d (Original post)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:39 PM
FlatBaroque (3,160 posts)
3. Color me surprised.
Response to kenn3d (Original post)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:40 PM
marions ghost (19,841 posts)
4. REALLY, America ????????????????????
Is THIS good enough!
![]() ![]() Thanks for posting kenn. People need to see how it's done. |
Response to kenn3d (Original post)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:43 PM
Tanuki (13,648 posts)
5. Name names, post the video. This is a crime, if true. The "precinct leader"
at the "friend's table" is obviously identifiable, so why protect the guilty?
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Response to Tanuki (Reply #5)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:47 PM
KingFlorez (12,689 posts)
9. It likely did not happen
Vagueness often indicates untruth.
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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #9)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 11:04 PM
Impedimentus (898 posts)
17. Really - How about the content of those big $$$ speeches?
"Vagueness often indicates untruth."
Since you opened the door, in my opinion, Hillary Clinton is often very vague, especially about the content of those high priced speeches to the banks and Wall Street, but that's just my opinion. FEEL THE BERN - 2016 |
Response to Tanuki (Reply #5)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:51 PM
Triana (22,666 posts)
11. Yes, w/ no names or video or photos, etc.
...the claim is suspect.
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Response to Triana (Reply #11)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 11:03 PM
marions ghost (19,841 posts)
16. Yep photos or further evidence needed
but it is certainly possible.
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Response to Tanuki (Reply #5)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:58 PM
Viva_La_Revolution (28,791 posts)
14. large screenshot shows geeks for bernie, facebook page
Searching the page now
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Response to kenn3d (Original post)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:49 PM
Triana (22,666 posts)
10. ELECTION fraud.
Voter fraud would be if a voter was trying to vote twice or some such. This is ELECTION fraud.
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Response to Triana (Reply #10)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:55 PM
Ellipsis (8,824 posts)
13. Yes indeed. An attempted theft by an over cupcaked enthusiatic Hill bot caught up...
in the heat of the moment and an intense sugar buzz.
Nothing coordinated I'm sure. |
Response to Ellipsis (Reply #13)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 11:01 PM
marions ghost (19,841 posts)
15. That's why it's believable to me
I've seen these little "helpers" where I am...
It would be good if they would post the video of her --as far as believing this. But I can tell you, stuff like this DOES happen. How much is coordinated, you ever know. If these things were ever really prosecuted, it would stop. Actually this was in WA, not HI, the commenters are saying. |
Response to kenn3d (Original post)
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 11:07 PM
Beacool (30,118 posts)
18. Is Hillary winning in HI?
Just asking because every time she wins a state someone yells voter fraud. I don't recall Hillary's supporters yelling fraud when Sanders wins.
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Response to kenn3d (Original post)
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:04 AM
ornotna (9,847 posts)
19. Here's the video
all 3 seconds of it. And it was Washington not Hawaii.
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