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Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:32 PM

Voter fraud in Hawaii?

Hillary supporter tries to throw away Bernie ballots, gets kicked out.
https://twitter.com/Parker9_/status/713907623205076993


Over 100 comments at the link. Apparent effort underway to publish the cellphone video.

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Reply Voter fraud in Hawaii? (Original post)
kenn3d Mar 2016 OP
Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #1
Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #2
rock Mar 2016 #6
Wilms Mar 2016 #7
DLnyc Mar 2016 #8
jeff47 Mar 2016 #12
FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #3
marions ghost Mar 2016 #4
Tanuki Mar 2016 #5
KingFlorez Mar 2016 #9
Impedimentus Mar 2016 #17
Triana Mar 2016 #11
marions ghost Mar 2016 #16
Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #14
Triana Mar 2016 #10
Ellipsis Mar 2016 #13
marions ghost Mar 2016 #15
Beacool Mar 2016 #18
ornotna Mar 2016 #19

Response to kenn3d (Original post)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:36 PM

1. Hillary and Repub's (one and the same)

 

should be discarded by voters.

I am not allowed on any jurys because I am pro-Bernie. I wonder why. No, I don't, because the owners of DU have chosen to give power to Hill-ites and take it away from Bernie supporters. FU DU owners!

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Response to kenn3d (Original post)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:39 PM

2. I wish people would stop saying "voter fraud"...

 

Voter fraud is a term Republicans use to challenge voters and say people are voting illegally.

That's pretty much the only meaning of the term.

I realize people are using the term because it's the closest term they have in the common vocabulary to express that there is some cheating in the election.

Maybe "election fraud" would fit better or sometimes voter suppression is the apt description.

This isn't directed at DU, but more so for rest of the internet. DU members are very savvy with election vocabulary and also quite good looking.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:45 PM

6. You are right

By the by 'voting fraud' works for me (rather than 'voter fraud').

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:45 PM

7. We need a Voting Systems Teach-In.

 

Yep. This would not be voter fraud.

While the Repukelicans lie through their teeth about "voter fraud", they are using it correctly in claiming...ie: someone illegally voting...a "voter" who is a fraud.

"Election Fraud" broadly refers to efforts to screw with an election. And that can take many forms.

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:47 PM

8. Yes, "Election Fraud" is better. Also "Vote Supression", "Voting Rights Violation", . . .

I agree, "voter fraud" is not the right term. It implies the misdeed was done by a voter, when it is typically being done by an elections official or other political actor.

Maybe "Undermining Democracy" would be a good term, too!

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Response to Cheese Sandwich (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:53 PM

12. Well, it is the wrong term.

Voter fraud is when a voter does something wrong.

Election fraud is when election officials or the state does something wrong.

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Response to kenn3d (Original post)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:39 PM

3. Color me surprised.

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Response to kenn3d (Original post)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:40 PM

4. REALLY, America ????????????????????

Is THIS good enough!

I dont think so

to the guy who didn't trust Cupcakes for Hillary.
Thanks for posting kenn. People need to see how it's done.

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Response to kenn3d (Original post)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:43 PM

5. Name names, post the video. This is a crime, if true. The "precinct leader"

at the "friend's table" is obviously identifiable, so why protect the guilty?

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Response to Tanuki (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:47 PM

9. It likely did not happen

Vagueness often indicates untruth.

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Response to KingFlorez (Reply #9)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 11:04 PM

17. Really - How about the content of those big $$$ speeches?

"Vagueness often indicates untruth."

Since you opened the door, in my opinion, Hillary Clinton is often very vague, especially about the content of those high priced speeches to the banks and Wall Street, but that's just my opinion.

FEEL THE BERN - 2016

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Response to Tanuki (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:51 PM

11. Yes, w/ no names or video or photos, etc.

 

...the claim is suspect.

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Response to Triana (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 11:03 PM

16. Yep photos or further evidence needed

but it is certainly possible.

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Response to Tanuki (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:58 PM

14. large screenshot shows geeks for bernie, facebook page

Searching the page now

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Response to kenn3d (Original post)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:49 PM

10. ELECTION fraud.

 

Voter fraud would be if a voter was trying to vote twice or some such. This is ELECTION fraud.

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Response to Triana (Reply #10)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 10:55 PM

13. Yes indeed. An attempted theft by an over cupcaked enthusiatic Hill bot caught up...

in the heat of the moment and an intense sugar buzz.


Nothing coordinated I'm sure.

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Response to Ellipsis (Reply #13)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 11:01 PM

15. That's why it's believable to me

I've seen these little "helpers" where I am...

It would be good if they would post the video of her --as far as believing this. But I can tell you, stuff like this DOES happen. How much is coordinated, you ever know. If these things were ever really prosecuted, it would stop.

Actually this was in WA, not HI, the commenters are saying.

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Response to kenn3d (Original post)

Sat Mar 26, 2016, 11:07 PM

18. Is Hillary winning in HI?

Just asking because every time she wins a state someone yells voter fraud. I don't recall Hillary's supporters yelling fraud when Sanders wins.



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Response to kenn3d (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:04 AM

19. Here's the video

all 3 seconds of it. And it was Washington not Hawaii.

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