2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDiversity shaming. The ugliest media trend of the 2016 primary season.
"Too Black", "Too white", now, "Asians aren't really minorities".
Disgusting, all of it. All states and all Americans "count".
Fact: Sanders has won some of our country's most diverse states, and so has Hillary.
Enough of this ugliness. Stop trying to divide us up. Try some real analysis for a change.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)I see it all time right HERE.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)That being said, the word "media" was the last word I added to the post.
Broward
(1,976 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)And it is shameful. Just as it was in 2008.
reddread
(6,896 posts)that and losing.
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)beats floating policy
ask Rove.
I mean David Brock.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Started immediately after Bernie announced. The collateral damage from this campaign is enormous and will have generational impacts.
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)And, yes, ALL media outlets do it, along with many in BOTH camps here on DU.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Go figure.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)being tied to women, Blacks and Hispanics. I think we've all read and heard that the US is becoming a 'majority minority' nation. And we've all read about how the major opposition party is doomed because it's about old white men.
And it seems to be the case that working toward the notion of minority majority party is where dem thinkers have pushed the party to go, and it is where energy and money has moved, and it's how 'smart' candidates are positioning themselves.
So, it doesn't strike me as unusual at all that campaign advisers and pundits would incorporate discussion of the notion that one candidate is better on diversity than another. It's a been a major part of the discussion about the democratic vs republican parties.
And it's basic mainstream/establishment thinking to shape a message toward target demographics. It shouldn't be surprising that a candidate spending a lot of money for mainstream advice has structured a campaign to follow the mainstream theme.
Odd as it seems, and although the narrative is on point about women, Blacks and Hispanics, the thinking about diversity is nonetheless pretty stereotypical and narrow. Some demographic groups are included in the target and some are overlooked. Members of target demographics are slipped into categories which are too conveniently assumed to be homogeneous in their views.
I don't see this as shaming so much as I see it as marketers trying to stay on a prescribed message.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)and whatever the reason behind it, it is SO DIVISIVE.
But that's always good for business.
reddread
(6,896 posts)takes a certain kind of person/institution to play it.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)And the DNC and it's candidates collectively, if not in coordination, pursue the same identified demographics
For dems these have recently not included labor or rural residents, but have included urban/metro residents, women, Blacks and Hispanics, and have not given much emphasis to indigenous peoples or east & southern Asians.
But even in doing the expert advisers seem to see Blacks, Hispanics, and women as being pretty uniform in their voting interests and priorites. That attitude seems to often gloss over age, economics, and cultural contexts of regional geographies.
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)Then attempt to foster hatred of each group against the other is harmful not just to the process but to the innocent people they are trying to divide into racial political wars, even if it is only an attempt to do so temporarily (as they likely tell themselves), just until an election is won, it is deplorable behavior and often seen used by hate groups across the globe.
This is becoming a pattern from the Clinton Campaign.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511300567#post4.
Brock is a big part of this (pit one poor race against another) in order to win victories designed to profit the wealthy at the expense of all the people that will suffer under their trickle down neoliberal policies which will harm all of us struggling people no matter the race, but those that hire them also have a history of agitating people to hate by race and so are just as, if not more, accountable for such deplorable tactics.
It is a tactic often used by the wealthy in order to keep the power and money while continuing to steal even more in the face of glaring wide spread wealth disparity across all racial and social lines, In war the tactic is called divide and conquer, the wealthy have throughout history done this at the point where the difference between the rich and poor becomes widespread and apparent.
A true leader on the other hand, one that wants to help all the people historically tries to bring all the people together to fight the aristocracy.
It is clear which candidate is following which tactic, just as it is clear which candidate is little more than the puppet of the wealthy and attempting to win yet more of their favor. Such candidates often acquire excessive wealth during their lapdog tenures practically rubbing it in our faces (how much wealth have the "public servants" the Clintons acquired again, and from whom?)
The honest candidate, not swayed by or wiling to be used by by an uncontrolled group that worships at the altar of greed often lives a relatively normal lifestyle, not depending on acquiring wealth in order to achieve their version of a happy life, again which candidate more closely represents this lifestyle?
I have told you of tactics as old as the existence of extreme wealth at the expense of others. In your hearts the signs of their use are evident, some would say axiomatic.
I have also told you of some common traits of leaders on the side of the populace.
There is enough for you to decide for yourself which side you are on. And who is on your side as well.
choose well.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280123066
I also understand personally and identify with, via painful memories growing up something you mentioned
I am multiracial and have struggled with that all my life, the only thing missing is my Latino quarter, which I believe you implied by your content anyway.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I was appalled by it in '08, and somehow it's worse this time around.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Sick of the nonsense - attempts at ethnic division substituting for debate on the issues. Sorry if I see one side doing this every way they can, because they don't want a debate on the issues.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...then what, exactly do we stand for with regards to minority rights?
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)The campaign, the pre$$ that covers it, and the supporters who are so emotionally invested in a female President they can taste it know without the racial and gender-based divisiveness, they're toast.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...Is that I'm pretty sure we all recall that same campaign arguing in 2008 that Black votes and predominantly Black states shouldn't really count.
But what dismays me equally is how the media buys into this shameful BS. But, they did it in 2008 too, so I don't know why I am surprised.
amborin
(16,631 posts)Hydra
(14,459 posts)The fact that it is shows how badly our party has fallen to various types of corruption. Every day I see things that used to be the signature of the Grand ol Perverts...and is now being sold as "realism."
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...which is the real story here.
States that tend towards progressivism or populism, vote for Bernie, regardless of minority status.
That's what they're desperartely trying to shift the narrative from with this shameful race shit.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)And it only got uglier from there.
All votes count, all voices should be heard.