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Divernan

(15,480 posts)
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:32 PM Mar 2016

Pedestrians kept at least a block away from Hillary's Madison event.

At her typical exclusive fundraisers, held in gated private estates, we see photos of cops directing traffic, but people have been able to assemble on public streets to watch her arrive and depart, and even to wave a few signs and demonstrate. No mas, boss!

In Madison, the entire block surrounding the venue will be "closed to pedestrians". We're talking public sidewalks and streets in the heart of a state university.

Hey! Hillary don't need no stinkin' right of assembly or freedom of speech in her America!


Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton will speak in Madison on Monday, two days after her Democratic opponent, Bernie Sanders, drew a large crowd here and touted his campaign's momentum.

Clinton will make remarks to invited guests at UW-Madison's Gordon Commons, 770 W. Dayton Street, at 3:45 p.m. Doors open at 2:45 p.m. A UW-Madison news release says the event is not open to the campus community or the public.

Because of Clinton's appearance, Lake Street will be closed to traffic between Dayton and Johnson streets, starting at about noon, and to pedestrians after 3 p.m., until the event is over.

http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/hillary-clinton-to-campaign-in-madison-on-monday/article_cc606f75-1cd9-5288-9b16-110494d6d328.html
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Pedestrians kept at least a block away from Hillary's Madison event. (Original Post) Divernan Mar 2016 OP
Abusing their power to protect themselves from political risks like protests. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #1
using bush tactics roguevalley Mar 2016 #25
Exactly, it's the SOS! They do not represent the majority of the people and I fear she will lose RKP5637 Mar 2016 #31
Is anyone surprised by this? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2016 #26
Not me. desmiller Mar 2016 #36
INVITED GUESTS ONLY... So She Does Not Have To EXPLAIN Her Comparatively small crowd? CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #2
their motto is "The problem with big crowds is that you only hear yourself" MisterP Mar 2016 #7
found it! MisterP Mar 2016 #10
Small crowd, big money, another bought politician!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2016 #35
by invite only says everything about the candidate Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #3
Are we now entering the pre-Revolutionary War Era? senz Mar 2016 #20
more like AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #28
Good one! Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #50
When the Reaganites joined the democratic party and took it over! I'm so fed up with it all. When RKP5637 Mar 2016 #38
.+1 840high Mar 2016 #23
+1 daleanime Mar 2016 #29
Hillary hates sidewalks! hrmjustin Mar 2016 #4
No, she's just not fond of.... daleanime Mar 2016 #30
You laugh at the expression of negative impressions this stuff makes on what could be KPN Mar 2016 #32
Hey Everyone, look, it's her Royal Highness, Queen Hillary I. Live Bait Mar 2016 #5
How tone deaf is Hillary? BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #6
There's a large, well established coterie of progressive protesters in Madison. Divernan Mar 2016 #8
Absolutely stunning in terms of both stupidity and arrogance BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #11
I'm sure they will try. KPN Mar 2016 #33
La-de-da grasswire Mar 2016 #9
I was thinking Queen Ann Romney. Scuba Mar 2016 #24
Thats our Hillary... bvar22 Mar 2016 #12
Badger memories Fairgo Mar 2016 #13
She's pulled this before Chezboo Mar 2016 #14
If she's this arrogant as a private citizen campaigning, Divernan Mar 2016 #15
Denying students tickets to attend different than keeping them a block away! Divernan Mar 2016 #19
I've known people in RL with an exaggerated sense of entitlement senz Mar 2016 #22
Maybe it's a Secret Service recommendation? winter is coming Mar 2016 #16
Possible but doubtful NWCorona Mar 2016 #21
Wouldn't want Her Highness mingling with the common rabble now, would we? tabasco Mar 2016 #17
It's beneath her dignity to be near the unwashed! This is getting so disgusting, what she is RKP5637 Mar 2016 #39
Shades of GWBush's "free speech zones." senz Mar 2016 #18
Yes that's right... Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #51
...... daleanime Mar 2016 #27
She doesn't want someone holding up a sign and confronting her past mistakes? Jackilope Mar 2016 #34
Did they bring a Red Carpet montanacowboy Mar 2016 #37
Kind of an odd event for a campaign. HassleCat Mar 2016 #40
Pretty standard for her EmperorHasNoClothes Mar 2016 #53
How many events at that facility for lease are open to the general public? Sunlei Mar 2016 #41
For election candidates? All are required to be open to the public. Divernan Mar 2016 #43
Its not a University Auditorium.The Fundraiser is in a facility that can be hired for private events Sunlei Mar 2016 #44
Read your own link! It is not listed as fundraiser! Duh-uh! Divernan Mar 2016 #45
Thats because its a private event at about 2:45-4pm. Public event is Mon, Mar 28, 2016, 6:30pm – 9PM Sunlei Mar 2016 #49
Oh, ffs! The 6:30 event is in MILWAUKEE, NOT MADISON! Divernan Mar 2016 #55
Actually I donated to and primary voted for Senator Sanders, we need his voice. Sunlei Mar 2016 #57
I don't read it to say that BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #59
To access the PDF, Divernan Mar 2016 #60
Thanks for the clarification BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #61
Clinton event blatant violation of UW policy requiring it be open to public. Divernan Mar 2016 #42
Oh, yes. She is a woman of the people! SheilaT Mar 2016 #46
Wow!Check out yuge crowd Chelsea got in Madison last week! Divernan Mar 2016 #47
Those were supporters at the campaign field office. Sunlei Mar 2016 #48
Brilliant use of Chelsea's time! talking to small groups already committed to Clinton! Divernan Mar 2016 #56
For the people my a$$ seekthetruth Mar 2016 #52
She doesn't want to have to go near any worthless peons jfern Mar 2016 #54
Tone deaf is too nice of a phrase .... TheFarS1de Mar 2016 #58
 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
1. Abusing their power to protect themselves from political risks like protests.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:34 PM
Mar 2016

That's what the Clinton organization is doing.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
31. Exactly, it's the SOS! They do not represent the majority of the people and I fear she will lose
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:00 AM
Mar 2016

to Trump if he moves moderate. We are in a sad state of affairs in this country. The DNC/DWS/DLC/HRC just do not represent me. In fact, I don't think they really give a F about me and millions in the least! It's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$'s, not "we the people" IMO. The democratic party left me.


CorporatistNation

(2,546 posts)
2. INVITED GUESTS ONLY... So She Does Not Have To EXPLAIN Her Comparatively small crowd?
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:37 PM
Mar 2016

Oh, and the I AM REALLY REALLY IMPORTANT/EXCLUSIVE BIT WITH THE EXCLUSIONARY SECURITY MEASURES... FOR ALL THE IMPORTANT PEOPLE ... PROBABLY GOING TO WRITE CHECKS? AS REQUIRED? AT CLINTON "EVENTS"

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
10. found it!
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:54 PM
Mar 2016

Last edited Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:27 PM - Edit history (1)



these fundraisers--no, backpatting galas--always clog up traffic for those of us who have to work for a living
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
20. Are we now entering the pre-Revolutionary War Era?
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:39 PM
Mar 2016

Do we have to go through all that again?

Where did it all go wrong?

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
38. When the Reaganites joined the democratic party and took it over! I'm so fed up with it all. When
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:16 AM
Mar 2016

it comes to big money, R=D in USA, Inc. People matter little, it's all about who has the most money and they get what they want. Money talks, has power, and creates favors and action. The rest of us just talk. I will vote for the nominee, but I am going to have a very hard time voting for HRC, but I will if necessary. And I will change my affiliation to "I." I don't want the DNC/DWS/DLC/HRC to think I like their actions.

KPN

(15,635 posts)
32. You laugh at the expression of negative impressions this stuff makes on what could be
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:00 AM
Mar 2016

potential Hillary supporters in a GE? Doesn't seem wise.

 

Live Bait

(93 posts)
5. Hey Everyone, look, it's her Royal Highness, Queen Hillary I.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:37 PM
Mar 2016

Peons, you aren't worthy of seeing her car, so back the hell away at least 1,000 feet. Back up more. shoo.. shoo...



This is why this woman is so tone-deaf. I expect Wisconsin to deliver the votes for Bernie. Optics are key.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
6. How tone deaf is Hillary?
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:39 PM
Mar 2016

She has been sending Chelsea to campus events as a surrogate to spare herself the embarrassment of facing hostile audiences. And now she is going to throw gasoline on the fire by holding a private event in the middle of the University of Wisconsin campus and inconveniencing UW students? I hope there are mass protests.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
8. There's a large, well established coterie of progressive protesters in Madison.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:46 PM
Mar 2016

They've been holding sit-ins and sing-ins right in the state capitol building for years - and HRC is NOT their cup of tea. I expect she'll receive a particularly rousing welcome/protest from them.

As you point out, this is a 4-5 hour, all afternoon disruption of the campus. Spring break ended last Friday. Monday will be the first day of classes resuming. Way to fuck up campus traffic in general, and particularly getting from one class to another on a tight schedule!


Semester II

Registration: January 12-15 & 19-22, 2016
Martin Luther King Day: January 18
First Day of Classes: January 25
Spring Break: March 21-25
Last Day of Classes: May 12

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
11. Absolutely stunning in terms of both stupidity and arrogance
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:57 PM
Mar 2016

Let's go UW students, make this a national news story!

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
9. La-de-da
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:49 PM
Mar 2016

Is there a more snooty person in the Democratic party?

Sounds like something Barbara Bush would do.

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
13. Badger memories
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:03 PM
Mar 2016

I remember when I saw Bill on the steps of the capitol. He was still an aw-shucks down home populist back then. Now, his spouse meets at the other end of State street, in private, with the mobsters who have systematically stripped UW of its heritage and sold it for scrap. The Walmartisation of Higher Education...If you think Scott Walker is the only evil bastard in town, you are not looking hard enough. This is the arc of the Clintons. This is how far we have fallen in one set of eight. Ready for eight more?

Chezboo

(230 posts)
14. She's pulled this before
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:08 PM
Mar 2016

... going to a college campus and allowing very few, if any, of the actual students attend. What's the point? So she can say in her mesmerizing speeches that, "When I go around the country visiting college campuses blah blah blah," making it sound like she's actually got some connection with young people... you know - the ones under 40?

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
15. If she's this arrogant as a private citizen campaigning,
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:20 PM
Mar 2016

imagine the"free speech zones", in the grand tradition of her buddy, W, if she were president.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
19. Denying students tickets to attend different than keeping them a block away!
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:30 PM
Mar 2016

Are people paying to attend? Who's on the guest list? This is a taxpayer supported public university. Yes, they can rent out facilities - but to deny access to tuition paying students to a square block of campus? Any classrooms in that block, parking facilities for which people purchased passes?

Good god almighty! This is not like closing down the elite hair salon at Bergdorf's for her to get her $1200 cut and dye job. This is a public, state university!

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
22. I've known people in RL with an exaggerated sense of entitlement
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:51 PM
Mar 2016

and every one of them had other signs of NPD as well.

So ya nevah know...

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
17. Wouldn't want Her Highness mingling with the common rabble now, would we?
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:23 PM
Mar 2016

What all the fuss about!?

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
39. It's beneath her dignity to be near the unwashed! This is getting so disgusting, what she is
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:19 AM
Mar 2016

doing.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
18. Shades of GWBush's "free speech zones."
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:27 PM
Mar 2016

The Clinton-Bush friendship is certainly paying off for her.

Jackilope

(819 posts)
34. She doesn't want someone holding up a sign and confronting her past mistakes?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:02 AM
Mar 2016

Us peasants must be brought to heel.....

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
40. Kind of an odd event for a campaign.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:20 AM
Mar 2016

Speaking on the campus of a public university, where the Progressive movement was born, to an invited-only crowd?

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
43. For election candidates? All are required to be open to the public.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:40 AM
Mar 2016

As documented in my quote from university policy in post 42.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
45. Read your own link! It is not listed as fundraiser! Duh-uh!
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:02 AM
Mar 2016
In fact, it's not listed at all. There she goes again - on the down low. Here's her schedule for Monday, March 28, 2016, as per your super duper, official link! And even if it were listed as a fundraiser, that event would fall under the university's policies on use of facilities for political purposes.

Note: Fundraisers are scheduled a month in advance while public events are only scheduled a few days in advance.

March 28, 2016 New York City, New York Fundraiser John Podesta & Chef Marianna Morrison
March 28, 2016 Chicago, Illinois Fundraiser Hillary Clinton
March 28, 2016 Milwaukee, Wisconsin Organizing Event Hillary Clinton


The venue is the Gordon Events Center. The university "Facilities Use Policy" refers to all university facilities, not just "auditoriums".

Under specific conditions, student organizations, political parties or candidates for public office
may reserve University facilities for political purposes. A political purpose includes any action
taken to influence the nomination, election, or re-election of an individual to public office, or to
influence the vote in a referendum." (sec. 11.01 (16) Wis. Stats.) The Wisconsin Statutes, Board
of Regents’ regulations and UW-Madison rules all affect the ways in which University facilities
may be used for political purposes.


Please also note that the policy refers to reserving University facilities for political purposes. There is no dancing around with whether a reservation/use fee is charged or not.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
49. Thats because its a private event at about 2:45-4pm. Public event is Mon, Mar 28, 2016, 6:30pm – 9PM
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:42 AM
Mar 2016

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
55. Oh, ffs! The 6:30 event is in MILWAUKEE, NOT MADISON!
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 05:57 AM
Mar 2016
Is it too much to expect you to have actually READ the link which YOU provided?

In case you are posting from somewhere overseas, and do not have access to a map of the U .S., here's the deal. Wisconsin is a state. Madison, Wisconsin is the state capitol, as well as home to the main campus of the state's public university, known as the University of Wisconsin. Milwaukee is a different city, and the largest city in the state of Wisconsin. The 2 cities are 79 miles apart from each other.

Mon, Mar 28, 2016, 6:30pm – 9:00pm
Milwaukee Organizing Meeting with Hillary Clinton

Mary Ryan Boys and Girls Club
3000 N Sherman Blvd
Milwaukee, Wisconsin 53210
Map this location
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/events/view/KPEULVM72RO6PQDQ/


In post 44, YOU describe the Madison event as a fundraiser. The link you provided does list fund raisers, but makes no mention of the Madison event, whether as a fundraiser or an organizational meeting, or in any capacity whatsoever.

I suggest you devote your efforts in support of Hillary to helping her campaign get its act together, rather than drawing attention (via your DU posts) of the confusion which evidently reigns there.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
57. Actually I donated to and primary voted for Senator Sanders, we need his voice.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:46 AM
Mar 2016

Ticketed events aren't listed when full. I lived in Milwaukee, Wis. on West Wisconsin Ave. It's a very fast, easy drive/flight to Madison. I think Mrs. Clintons campaign is very organized, she has been working on it for almost a decade.

I'd like Sanders to have a free concert in New York City, music soothes the beast, Love Trumps hate

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
59. I don't read it to say that
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:24 AM
Mar 2016

I didn't see any PDF. Both links went to an article. What you cite from UW policy suggests to me that each Presidential candidate can have free use of a UW facility for campaign events that are open to the public. It doesn't say that UW facilities can't be rented for events that are not open to the public. Whether or not Hillary's campaign is paying rent on this facility (and paying for security to block off a square block around it) would be interesting. I doubt UW is in the habit of closing off areas of campus while school is in session.

Regardless, I'm just happy Hillary is so tone deaf as to do something this stupid. It just tells everybody more about who she is and why she should not be the Democratic nominee for President. Though I would prefer that she held an open campus event where students could heckle her. Either way, I'm glad to see Hillary in Madison!

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
60. To access the PDF,
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:32 AM
Mar 2016

go to this link:
http://news.wisc.edu/clinton-to-hold-monday-event-at-gordon/

Clinton to hold Monday event at Gordon
March 27, 2016

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton will hold an event on the University of Wisconsin—Madison campus on Monday afternoon.

The event, to be held at Gordon Dining & Events Center, is being ticketed by the Clinton campaign and is not open to the campus community or public.

Both Democratic and Republican candidates are crisscrossing the state in advance of the April 5 Wisconsin primary. Per UW policy, each candidate may hold one event on campus each election.
- See more at: http://news.wisc.edu/clinton-to-hold-monday-event-at-gordon/#sthash.aPZQvmAq.dpuf


The italicized phrase: "each candidate may hole one event on campus each election" is in a different color, i.e, blue. Click on that phrase, in that link, and you will get the PDF.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
61. Thanks for the clarification
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 10:56 AM
Mar 2016

I read the PDF and don't see anything that says this meeting would be a violation of UW policy. The document seems to be talking about how student political organizations and political campaigns can get free access to UW facilities. There is no language about the University excluding private political events. Not that I think it would stop Hillary even if there was such language.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
42. Clinton event blatant violation of UW policy requiring it be open to public.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:38 AM
Mar 2016

According to the University's own, formal announcement of this Clinton event, the Clinton campaign is in blatant violation of university policy, which CLEARLY AND EXPLICITLY STATES THAT SAID EVENT BE PUBLIC!

Paragraph 5 of the university's statement of policy states:

During an election campaign, such as the primary or general election, each
recognized candidate for public office may hold one public meeting at a
University auditorium. In addition, each political party may hold one public
meeting at a University auditorium on behalf of its candidates for national office,
and one public meeting on behalf of its candidates for statewide office.


http://news.wisc.edu/clinton-to-hold-monday-event-at-gordon/

Clinton to hold Monday event at Gordon
March 27, 2016

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton will hold an event on the University of Wisconsin—Madison campus on Monday afternoon.

The event, to be held at Gordon Dining & Events Center, is being ticketed by the Clinton campaign and is not open to the campus community or public.

Both Democratic and Republican candidates are crisscrossing the state in advance of the April 5 Wisconsin primary. Per UW policy, each candidate may hold one event on campus each election.

- See more at: http://news.wisc.edu/clinton-to-hold-monday-event-at-gordon/#sthash.qIYxj3Fv.dpuf

The pdf link provided in the above linked UW announcement is to the statement of university policy.
 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
46. Oh, yes. She is a woman of the people!
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:27 AM
Mar 2016

She will represent us all! All of us who can donate tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars to her fundraisers, that is.

And still, a lot of people continue to support her. Hopefully, not for long.

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
47. Wow!Check out yuge crowd Chelsea got in Madison last week!
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:32 AM
Mar 2016

Why, there must be over FORTY people there!!! and the majority of those over age 50! (And don't call me ageist - I'm in my 70's).


Photos: Chelsea Clinton campaigns in Madison for her mom

http://kokomoperspective.com/politics/national/photos-chelsea-clinton-campaigns-in-madison-for-her-mom/collection_2795e5b0-905f-58e6-8d92-7f76b1ede68f.html#7

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
48. Those were supporters at the campaign field office.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:35 AM
Mar 2016

"Chelsea Clinton, daughter of Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton, spoke to supporters at the campaign's Madison field office Thursday."

Divernan

(15,480 posts)
56. Brilliant use of Chelsea's time! talking to small groups already committed to Clinton!
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 06:39 AM
Mar 2016

What a terrific campaign strategy!
Everyone sing along:

Don't . . . . stop . . . . . preaching to the choir!

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