Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:50 PM Mar 2016

When Clinton took money from Goldman Sachs she took money stolen from the people.

People like to over look the fact Goldman Sacks profited off selling Toxic Mortgage Derivatives and then bought CDSs knowing the Derivatives they just sold were going to go bad. And of course the American tax payer had to bail out AIG who issued the majority of the Credit Default Swaps (CDS)

Sure Hillary supporters like to point out the TARP funds were paid back. But Hillary fails to point out the $Trillions of dollars the Fed has been pouring into the markets in Quantitive Easing all going to the "Too Big to Fail Banks" she refers to as her constituents.

$Trillions ...

19 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
When Clinton took money from Goldman Sachs she took money stolen from the people. (Original Post) FreakinDJ Mar 2016 OP
How much money did Goldman make from selling those derivatives and buying CDSs? Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #1
How much money did they make off their aluminum futures scam? JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #3
That put many American manufactures out of business FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #4
Close, she told them 'cut.... daleanime Mar 2016 #5
... AzDar Mar 2016 #6
Kudos - Well played FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #7
... R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #9
If so, then that just proves the "trickle down" theory - although the djean111 Mar 2016 #2
Perhaps she thought it was an advance towards her inevitability. R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2016 #8
Just watched the Big Short...I almost think Bernie's being too gentle with them Armstead Mar 2016 #10
So you're in favor of a debt-for-life model? Corporate666 Mar 2016 #11
Goldman Sachs Misled Congress, Duped Clients, Levin Says think Mar 2016 #14
You didn't address Corporate666 Mar 2016 #17
Worse then that - Hillary refuses to regulate them FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #15
Again.. Corporate666 Mar 2016 #18
what did the trillions of quantitative easing hill2016 Mar 2016 #12
$14.4 trillion: amborin Mar 2016 #13
Good god, that deserves page 1A and a mandatory semester class in high school lostnfound Mar 2016 #19
tip of the iceberg Vote2016 Mar 2016 #16

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
3. How much money did they make off their aluminum futures scam?
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:58 PM
Mar 2016

That cost Americans directly every time they bought a can of soda.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
4. That put many American manufactures out of business
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:01 PM
Mar 2016

When the Raw material would cost MORE then what the finished part from China cost because Wall St Banks manipulated the price of raw materials

Just like they did Crude Oil when we were paying $4 a gal.

I hope she told them to "Cut it out"

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. If so, then that just proves the "trickle down" theory - although the
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:55 PM
Mar 2016

trickling down still stops at the 1%, I see.

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
8. Perhaps she thought it was an advance towards her inevitability.
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:13 PM
Mar 2016

That way she could be earning her POTUS dollars from the peoples...sort of.

Corporate666

(587 posts)
11. So you're in favor of a debt-for-life model?
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:19 PM
Mar 2016

They did pay the money back, and $1.4 billion more.

Are you suggesting Goldman is responsible for money the gov't dumped into the markets in general, even if that money wasn't given to them?

Who else should be held responsible for the actions of others? Does that mean Bernie is responsible for the actions of his supporters - like the one that punched the horse? Or the ones that blocked the roads and prevented ambulances and emergency vehicles getting by?

And are you in favor of the old debt-for-life model, that once someone borrows from you, they can never actually pay it back and should be indebted for life?

I thought indentured servitude was something most democrats were against. Or is it OK when it's against a villain? What if the definition of villain changes next week to someone you like?

 

think

(11,641 posts)
14. Goldman Sachs Misled Congress, Duped Clients, Levin Says
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:33 PM
Mar 2016
Goldman Sachs Misled Congress, Duped Clients, Levin Says

By Robert Schmidt, Clea Benson and Phil Mattingly
April 14, 2011 — 5:36 PM CDT


Goldman Sachs Group Inc. misled clients and Congress about the firm’s bets on securities tied to the housing market, the chairman of the U.S. Senate panel that investigated the causes of the financial crisis said.

Senator Carl Levin, releasing the findings of a two-year inquiry yesterday, said he wants the Justice Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission to examine whether Goldman Sachs violated the law by misleading clients who bought the complex securities known as collateralized debt obligations without knowing the firm would benefit if they fell in value.

The Michigan Democrat also said federal prosecutors should review whether to bring perjury charges against Goldman Sachs Chief Executive Officer Lloyd Blankfein and other current and former employees who testified in Congress last year. Levin said they denied under oath that Goldman Sachs took a financial position against the mortgage market solely for its own profit, statements the senator said were untrue.

“In my judgment, Goldman clearly misled their clients and they misled the Congress,” Levin said at a press briefing yesterday where he and Senator Tom Coburn, an Oklahoma Republican, discussed the 640-page report from the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations...

Read more:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2011-04-14/goldman-sachs-misled-congress-after-duping-clients-over-cdos-levin-says


Corporate666

(587 posts)
17. You didn't address
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:39 PM
Mar 2016

what I said. Your post is basically saying "this one guy said they are bad, so don't give them any quarter by pointing out they aren't responsible for the actions of others".

And the guy in question never was brought up on perjury charges, was he? Seems like Levin is full or poop.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
15. Worse then that - Hillary refuses to regulate them
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:53 PM
Mar 2016
In 2007, then-Sen. Hillary Clinton, now a Democratic presidential candidate, gave campaign speeches attacking a tax break for hedge fund and private equity executives, but did not put her name on Senate legislation to close the loophole. In 2006, Clinton received hundreds of thousands of dollars in direct campaign and super PAC contributions from individuals working for (and PACs representing) financial institutions such as Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, JPMorgan Chase and Lehman Brothers.

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/34528-on-the-corrupting-influence-of-money-in-politics-bernie-sanders-is-dead-right?tmpl=component&print=1

Corporate666

(587 posts)
18. Again..
Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:45 PM
Mar 2016

This post has nothing to do with what I wrote. It's like telling someone they made a big mistake at work and cost the company money, and they reply "Oh yeah? Well, you're a big fat stupid!".

It's irrelevant to the topic. It's a fact that GS paid the money back plus some. If people feel GS should be indebted to the US taxpayer for the rest of eternity, then that person is in favor of indentured servitude. And I thought real democrats were against such things - or, apparently, some democrats are OK with anything, even things democrats stand against, as long as the victim is someone that's considered bad.

lostnfound

(16,173 posts)
19. Good god, that deserves page 1A and a mandatory semester class in high school
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 06:01 AM
Mar 2016

I occasionally have negotiated billion dollar deals in my lifetime and so I'm not surprised at the complexity of ways that "it's all about the money". People who naively accept that our politicians are like gladiators in the ring fighting against each other over the social issues, or that our foreign policy is about spreading freedom and democracy or about true national security interests, don't know about the realpolitik underneath.

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»When Clinton took money f...