Bernie had a major breakthrough among POC on Saturday.

[Ken Burch]

He took 70% in Hawaii, a state where the majority of the population are people of color.

He took 80% in Alaska, the state with the nation's largest indigenous population(in one rural Alaska-which means overwhelmingly Alaska Native-legislative district, Bernie took 100% of the vote).

And in the Washington state caucuses, Bernie did extremely well in AA, Latino, and First American areas.

[NWCorona]

1. My zip code is 30% black and 30% Asian

Bernie took it.

[CorporatistNation]

10. Kicked And Reced

BOOM!

[dreamnightwind]

2. +1

This bogus narrative, setup by HRC and amplified by Brock and company, the MSM, and her establishment POC proxies, is starting to crumble, as it should.

POC are becoming more aware of who Bernie is and what he stands for, some of them anyway. Glad to see these results from Saturday!

I went to a Bernie rally in San Diego last week, there were many many POC there, especially latinos.

[ucrdem]

3. Wouldn't that depend on whether POC actually caucused in proportion to their populations?

Is there any evidence that they did?

p.s. thanks to whoever posted this Washington caucus tweet:

[Ken Burch]

4. They showed up in large numbers all over Alaska and Hawaii and Washington.

Hawaii is something like 65% POC.

(BTW, NW Corona's post IS evidence. You're not going to get a white majority turnout in a district that is 60% POC).


As it happens, Vancouver is heavily white...but Seattle is diverse, as is Olympia, Renton, the Yakima Valley).

[ucrdem]

5. How do we know this?

[SheilaT]

6. Okay. Believe that in a state that is very minority

white, only white people showed up to caucus for Bernie.

Enjoy your delusion.

[Barack_America]

14. No. What he's suggesting is that only some minority groups count as real minorities...

...and he's asking you to dig into the data to determine how his preferred minority groups voted.

[Hiraeth]

56. afaiac, he is digging his way to ignore. Google can be used by anyone.

and his attitude is bordering on .... (fill in the blank)

[jillan]

7. You have to forgive some people. They only see things in black and white. The rest of us

don't seem to matter according to the talking points of this election cycle.

[artislife]

58. My precinct on the Eastside--usually votes conservative

of the 24, there were two Middle Eastern Muslims (couple-she wore a head and face scarf), one Tibetan woman, one Latina and an Asian (Japanese, I think) woman. There were also two disabled people. No African Americans.
The 13 who voted for Hillary were all white and able bodied.

[Kalidurga]

9. That is false

#Berniemadethemallwhite

[sufrommich]

11. Both Hawaii and Alaska have minority populations that

are very different than the rest of America though. Mainland America tends to have large populations of blacks and latinos,neither are of those populations are major minority groups on the islands or Alaska.

[Ken Burch]

12. It's still a sign that Bernie's able to connect with a diverse coalition of people after all.

The "only white boys support Bernie" narrative is now discredited, and there's no decent reason for anyone to keep pushing it.

[Barack_America]

13. Hmmm, and which minorities count as minorities...

...in your opinion then?

Considering your effort to draw differences between minority groups?

And how would you classify young minority voters, across the board, who tend to favor Sanders? How is their minority status different to account for their support of Sanders?

[sufrommich]

15. Oh please,I said nothing about which minorities "count".

I pointed out that Hawaii and Alaska have a different minority make up than the mainland. In Hawaii the largest minority groups are Filipinos,Japanese and ironically,native Hawaiians. In Alaska the largest minority is native Americans. Sanders could win all those groups on the mainland and it wouldn't make a bit of difference if he doesn't win blacks and latinos,who are by far the largest minority groups on the mainland.

[Barack_America]

16. Why make the distinction at all?

Looking forward to your response.

[sufrommich]

17. Because Sanders isn't winning latinos or black people. I thought I just

made that distinction. Sanders has to win the largest blocks of the minority populations in the U.S.,he isn't winning them.

[Barack_America]

18. And?

Also, this, "Sanders has to win the largest blocks of the minority populations in the U.S."

Can you reference where this comes from, or what exactly you mean by this?

[sufrommich]

19. I honestly don't know how much simpler I can make

the point for you or what it is that you don't understand.

[CalvinballPro]

20. You're being obtuse-trolled by someone who realizes your point is valid and has no response. nt

[sufrommich]

22. Yes,I've now realized that. I thought

the poster just wasn't getting it at first.

[Barack_America]

21. I'm trying to understand why Sanders's victories in some of the most diverse...

...bluest states are somehow lesser to you.

You seemed to be citing some sort of statistic and I asked for more information on that.

[roguevalley]

59. I love people 'explaining' alaska.

Bernie connected just fine.

[hack89]

24. The point is that different minority groups have more influence in the primaries than others

based on their numbers and distribution. It is a simple fact. They all count as minorities and have equal value as human beings. But the fact remains that AA and Latinos are a key part of the Hillary's coalition and have propelled her to a commanding lead (ie the Southern firewall.)

It is perfectly legitimate to discuss this and the potential impact it will have on future primaries.

[CalvinballPro]

26. Indeed. Winning the Pacific Islander vote means different things in Hawaii vs, say, New Jersey. nt

[Bluenorthwest]

30. So they are 'different' and thus do not count, in spite of the months of them all being claimed as

PoC who can't connect to Bernie and the one million and one Hillary supporter posts that do not say 'blacks and latinos' as you do but 'minorities don't like Bernie'?
You guys either co-opt them or disown them depending on how the last primary went, that is not advocacy but exploitation.

Bernie also won OK, home of many, many of these 'very different' minorities....

[Onlooker]

23. No he didn't ...

... but it's become clear that Bernie may not have majority support among blacks, Latinos, gays, Jews, Muslims, etc., but he does have majority support among Asians. Polls had already shown that. That should help him some in CA.

In liberal Seattle, the caucuses sure look highly diverse.

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/high-turn-out-at-caucus-sites-all-over-the-region/

[Ken Burch]

32. He does well among Native Americans, is improving among AA voters,

and carried 10 out of 15 predominately Latino counties in Colorado.

The Sanders campaign becomes more diverse each day.

You will never get a stronger antiracist program from the less-progressive candidate.

And "pragmatism" just means settling for nothing.

[Bluenorthwest]

36. I note that you, like all the Bernie bashers, entirely omit Native Americans

The Muslim community looks to be feeling the Bern:
"Sanders won the city of Dearborn by twenty points. Dearborn’s population is over 40 percent Muslim. Overall, exit polls showed that Sanders won Muslim voters in Michigan by a 70 to 30 margin."
http://americablog.com/2016/03/pundits-scratch-heads-sanders-won-big-michigan-muslims.html

I'm gay and no matter what HRC says I see a semi split community with much, much more support for Bernie than Straight Media implies. You speak of 'gays' but we speak of LGBT, and the women and the transgender people in particular have issues with the Human Rights Campaign. You omit much of our community just as you omit the Tribes.
To that I say 'Barf'.

[Onlooker]

40. No actually I mentioned Native Americans

Hillary appears to do quite well among them, given her victories in states like Arizona and Texas, among others. I can't find a poll showing that one does better than the other.

Yes, Bernie certainly gets some minority support and there are certainly examples where he has beat her, just as there are examples where Hillary has done better than Bernie among whites straight Christian men (at least I assume there are some).

[asuhornets]

25. This conversation is over...

Hillary is in the lead she has 2.5 million more votes than Bernie and more delegates. There are at least 6 closed primaries coming up where Democrats will decide who will be the Democratic nominee. And that little bird won't help Bernie.

[CalvinballPro]

27. And only a handful of caucuses left too. Bernie has run out of easy wins, basically. nt

[asuhornets]

28. I believe 2 more caucuses are coming up...n/t

[CalvinballPro]

29. 2 in states, with an additional 3 in territories, so 5 total. i.e. a handful :)

[Ken Burch]

31. Most Democrats agree with Bernie on the issues. Certainly most POC do.

Even most of those who support HRC because they still believe the myth that she's the only one who can win in the fall.
Most Democratic voters want us to be a progressive, anti-corporate, antiwar party...in other words, the only kind of party that can be trusted to fight racism.

[asuhornets]

33. That's because Bernie and Hillary are not very different

when it comes to certain issues. Most Democrats and POC prefer Hillary-the voting has shown that.

[Bluenorthwest]

38. Of course they are different, she voted for Iraq War, defended DOMA and opposed civil rights for

LGBT until the entire Party supported those rights. So far the voters of the West have preferred Bernie by giant margins, the Democrats of Alaska, Hawaii and Washington barely tossed Hillary a handful of votes. Your theory that the votes of those of us who have no voted and those who have voted for Bernie do not count at all is offensive bullshit.

[asuhornets]

67. OK Thanks....n/t

[noiretextatique]

61. The voting shows that people believe she can win

I have spoken to many AA's who like Bernie, but don't think he can win. I think more people are changing their minds the longer her stays in the race. Then there's Clinton's FBI problem, Honduras, Libya and Syria.

[Ed Suspicious]

78. This is the stupidest argument ever! He can't win therefore he won't

have my vote thus ensuring that he can't win.

People who think like that are straight up moronic. End of story.

[Ash_F]

77. $12 per hour and $15 per hour is a pretty big difference

Depending on who you are.

[Ed Suspicious]

79. $500 bucks per month goes a long fucking ways where I come from.

It's a huge difference.

[Jackilope]

34. and Independents decide the general.

Think bigger and long term regarding the election and later outcome.

A Hawk might pose and have a label as a Democrat, but the Corporate and Financial industry have that bird tethered tight.

The candidate that has caucused with and stands up for core Democratic Party principals, though was Independent. 2008 was about hope and change. This guy plans on getting us involved and getting it delivered. This conversation is not over. One way or another, we WANT REAL CHANGE and despise the corrupt system.

[asuhornets]

35. And your candidate

is not a Democrat. Hillary will win the nomination based on the numbers. So that part of the conversation is definitely over. Bernie will not be able to change anything except maybe the conversation. He does not have a diverse coalition. He does not bring people together-that's not intentional. But alot of people are just not into him.

[Bluenorthwest]

39. Bernie is a Democrat and your cohort needs to catch a clue, when you say crap like that you are

insulting many Democrats, entire regions and voting blocks. I despise bullies.

[asuhornets]

48. Projection is a very bad thing....n/t

[asuhornets]

47. That's your opinion

She is not a purist, and neither am I.

[Jackilope]

52. Bernie IS a Democrat. Re: alot of people not into him?

HRC gets what, 4,000 to 5,000 crowds? Actually, she is more into those private and elite 6 figure a plate dinners. Nothing says, "person of the people" like a good 1% dinner party!

The conversation is far from over. Not only that, but HRC has verbally moved further left as many tuned into Bernie's message. Heck, she even borrows actual phrases Bernie uses. She will morph into whatever she needs to to grab a vote. A chameleon and a hawk. I guess that is a shape shifter. I love how she gets a little drawl dialect when she campaigns in the South and wonder if she'll get a Brooklyn dialect when she campaigns in NY.

We are in it to the convention and beyond. BTW, picking up disenfranchised and disillusioned Independents tired of a rigged system is pretty, pretty, pretty good. Unless you like the Third Way Democratic Party for the Corporatists. Then HRC is your person. I'd like to think more people are waking up.

[asuhornets]

54. Nice pic...Impressive....n/t

[NWCorona]

42. It's far from over.

[bobbobbins01]

69. The 2.5 million votes mean absolutely nothing.

We're in a primary with many states that have caucuses, so counting votes is entirely inaccurate. I'm sure you know that though.

[asuhornets]

70. If it was the other way around you would be saying something different...n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

76. Hmm my state might count this year

So no, it is not over

[Jarqui]

37. After Mar 15th, Hillary had 58% of elected delegates to Bernie's 42%

After Saturday, she's down to 55% to 45% Bernie because Bernie won 75% of the delegates in the six contests that came in after Mar 15 and Az, picking up around 103 delegates more than Hillary (using Green Papers projections for Washington state).

43% of the elected delegates are still to be decided - we're not much past half way.

Hillary is one indictment or scandal or good screw up away from losing this thing. With the FBI gawking at criminal charges for the emails and the Clinton Foundation and about to interview Hillary and her staff and that same staff and maybe Hillary is about to testify in the Judicial Watch case, this thing is a long way from over.

[JoePhilly]

44. Indictment fairy to the rescue!!!!

[Jarqui]

50. Something like a candidate lying about a blue stained dress will do ... nt

[Robbins]

49. Here is the thing

it's very possable this nomination fight won't be settled till Convention.

Bernie's campagin won't end till last primary has been held.this is even after possable voter fraud in Iowa,Nevada.mass,Ohio,Illinois,Missouri,and arizona.

The Clintons needs to be worried about california.a lot of bernie contributers are from Califoria i read.

Unfortuly super delegates may decide race one way or other at convention.and then they have to decide do they go with cronyism or do they want to win.

Let's assume for a minute voter Is all GOP doing.this means they would rather run against clinton.why would dems do what they
want.Also what if at GOP convention the insiders prevent trump from getting it and someone like Kasich is result of broked convention.He beats Clinton.Bernie beats him.even cruz has chance to beat Clinton.Clinton's only hope as nominee is Trump,and that's not a slam dunk especilly with how many bernie supporters feel on her and dem establishment.Obama running for third term
would be stronger against trump than her.that's because many bernie supporters supported obama and while they have issues with some of his decsions like the TPP they still kind of like him especilly over gop.

It's very curious why Clinton doesn't want debate In New York.her suposed advantage.

[Jarqui]

55. "It's very curious why Clinton doesn't want debate In New York.her suposed advantage."

I don't think it's that curious. She's leading. One threat to her winning, aside from the indictment/court stuff, is making a significant mistake. No debate = no significant mistake.

This whole thing has been about delays. They will delay testimony in the Judicial Watch case as long as possible. They will delay interviews with the FBI as long as possible. Which will delay the outcomes of those as long as possible.

If they can put those things off until she's clinched the nomination, it's a lot tougher to remove her.

[Robbins]

57. well

they keep trying to tell us she destroys bernie in debates.if true why wouldn't she debate him in new york.but,yes she could make
significant mistake.

It is crazy if they think nothing will be said about the clinton foundation business and email investigation till after november.

just imagine this coming out in mist of GE.GOP will run ads daily on Clinton,clinton foundation,and email investigation.

Nominating Clinton is playing high stakes poker with future of both country and democratic party.

[Jarqui]

60. Oh I agree. They're trying to run out the clock. It's all they can do. BUT:

GOP Files More Lawsuits Seeking Hillary Clinton Records

The Republican National Committee filed four complaints on Monday in the U.S. District Court in Washington. The lawsuits stem from Freedom of Information Act requests the GOP filed last year. In court filings, the party says it has not received any documents in response to those requests.
...
The Republicans want all messages between 14 State Department officials and private email domains associated with Clinton, former President Bill Clinton, their daughter, Chelsea Clinton, and the Clinton Foundation. The GOP also wants communications between the State Department and officials at the U.S. Agency for International Development, which provides global humanitarian and development aid.

Another request targets records about training for State Department employees on the handling of classified information. Yet another seeks records pertaining to visitor logs or related records for Clinton's formal quarters or personal office while secretary of state and the State Department's Diplomatic Reception Room.

The latest batch of lawsuits joins a pair of complaints filed by the GOP earlier this month seeking emails and text messages from several of Clinton's key aides while she was secretary of state from 2009 to 2013.

All told, there are now at least 38 civil suits pending in federal court over access to Clinton's records, including one filed by The Associated Press.

They may hold folks off long enough to win the primary. But they're not going to hold folks off until after the general election. The GOP will take it to the courts of public opinion. And Hillary is going to lose in the Independent and Republican courts of public opinion and she'll even lose some support in the Democrats court of public opinion.

The GOP have hundreds of millions of Koch money to make their case. They're just sitting back lining up their ducks right now.

That's the game Hillary is playing and like most of the other Clinton scandals, it's not going to help her cause. The GOP will hurt her and nail her on this.

If the GOP get Kasich because Trump is likely to fall short, I think they'll use this and her other scandals to clobber Hillary. To be clear, that's not what I want. I'd take Hillary over any of them. But unfortunately, I don't carry enough sway in the matter. I continue to feel if the Dems want to win the White House, Bernie is a much better bet to survive a general election.

[Robbins]

66. for starters

she isn't the candiate Bill clinton was.no matter how you think of it now.

In today's age much harder for clintons to just say well republicans out to get us because we work for you.In 1990's people still
payed attention to MSM.freezing out bernie on MSM may get her nomination but it won't work In GE.

Some dems are furious with clintons with how game has been rigged and voter fraud.not to mention how much to right they have
moved to blast bernie.Independents don't like her.In 2012 Obama could lose independents overall and still win because he had dems
united behind him.she won't.indys dislike her far more than they did Obama In 2012.remember among bernie supporters many
view her as republican lite so using trump won't help.

if gallup is better with obama job approval than 2012 polling his job approval is 53% unfortuly that tends to be her unfavorable
numbers.no candiate with higher unfavorabilty numbers has ever won.now in clinton vs trump we would have race by 2 unfavorable candiates.

The FBI isn't investigating a parking ticket of for hell of it.The clintons look bad with the allegations of foundation business.

Clinton could very well win nomination and could squeek by In november against trump but first off she could doom dem's chances to retake the senate.as in 1996 some voters may vote republican to keep her in check.republicans will try to impeach her even if there efforts to take her down in GE with email and foundation doesn't work.doudtful they could remove her but they can impeach her.her in white house would insure 2018 be bad for dems.just imagine in 2018 a mid-term where sitting president has been impeached.

clintons have proven ralph nader right when he in 2000 said both partys corrupt and not much difference between the 2 partys.

Untill Trump ran for president the clintons had no problem with trump.just like they seem to have no problem with the bushes.
and she seems to love Kissinger.

There is ticking bomb on clinton's campagin.many tried to warn others but many refuse to see it.

I will never vote republican but i have no enthusim for her.those who support bernie has been called every name in book.and bill
clinton basicly called us tea party.after bashing bernie and his policys throughout campagin does she really think we will take
anything she says seriously.noone seriously believes she won't support tpp again after election.

GOP will run ads in every race tying her to other dems.

[nolabels]

64. The Hillary camp is trying to put any Bernie issues on total ignore

And no more debates will happen because Bernie just being on the same stage hurts the chances for Hillary by giving the vision of legitimacy. Obviously they are taking taking the cues from M$M, because they now believe along with the corporate shills in the thinking if it is ignored long enough it will go away or at least diminish.

Pretty much didn't work when tried on Obama, but it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks

[Vote2016]

41. shhh ... that doesn't fit Hillary's narrative. She doesn't want people to conclude Hillary's losing

Progressive voters of all races; her supporters prefer to argue that she owns the African American vote and they all vote in lockstep as a pack and it's racist to question why she is only strong in the least progressive and most Christian-church-going region of the country but is losing 2-to-1 of the other states.

[NorthCarolina]

53. The ideal GE matchup would be Hillary for the GOP team and Bernie for the Democrats.

It would reset both parties to where they SHOULD be politically, and would give America the choice between a real fiscal conservative vs a real fiscal liberal, instead of the fiscal conservative/fiscal conservative match ups the establishment generally prefers.

[Thirties Child]

62. "reset both parties where they SHOULD be politically"

Brilliant!!!

[floppyboo]

63. According to the LA Times poll, Bernie is doing better with non-whites than whites

and so is Hillary. The majority demographic for the state is white, so guess that says a lot for the party. Just beat the republicans! And, with the one week grace period between Rep and Dem conventions, I'm sure the choice will be clear. And I'm sure hoping everyone will put their family feud's aside and keep all people's best interests at heart.

[KingFlorez]

65. Hard to make that declaration without entrance polls

Nobody really knows what the numbers were.

[jeff47]

71. Yes, in a 75% minority state, it's entirely reasonable to assume only the 25% bothered to vote.

[KingFlorez]

72. I apologize if I hurt your feelings

That last thing I want to do is hurt anybody. I realize this is a very emotional experience for some people, so I'll be more careful about what I say.

[jeff47]

73. You didn't hurt anything. Your claim is absurd.

But keep going with it. It shows just who you are.

[KingFlorez]

74. There were no damned entrance polls

Maybe Sanders did win minorities in those states, but there are no entrance polls to back up the claim. I never said he lost them, because I don't have entrance poll evidence to back up my claim.

[Ken Burch]

80. it goes without saying you can't win 70% in Hawaii on white votes alone.

And you're not entitled to act like you and your campaign are above us.

[okieinpain]

68. lol, i don't think it's the same thing. lol.

[nadinbrzezinski]

75. You did not get the memo, Hawaii is really white

And so is Alaska.

for those impaired.