Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
38 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
#WhichHillary? "[to be president] you should be willing to debate anytime, anywhere" (Original Post) GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 OP
No more debate is a waste of Time: Hillary's got this!: and there boring lewebley3 Mar 2016 #1
they're rhett o rick Mar 2016 #12
Her supporters are gonna say you are being mean & misogynistic for using her words against her.... peacebird Mar 2016 #2
don't forget racist Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #6
This is politics 101, maybe you should study up? Don't debate when you're ahead! nt BreakfastClub Mar 2016 #3
Did you miss the second day of class, in which you were to have learned... DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #10
Don't skip the part that says you can't call your opponent names in a debate. procon Mar 2016 #19
She does have something to gain by debating Sanders, and I just posted it. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #20
Yet she has already agreed to more debates. Sounds like she needs to retake Politics 101 n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #11
It is time for her to switch all focus to the GOP, show everybody she is ready to take Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #14
You think Trump will keep his "tone" down so as to not upset her? Scuba Mar 2016 #27
Jesus, this is getting so obvious. Sad too Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #28
Yeah, the lines pretty much write themselves. Scuba Mar 2016 #29
Keep it up, and maybe President Trump will send you a personal thank you. Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #30
Seems unlikely, but President Sanders probably will ... Scuba Mar 2016 #31
So your entire existence and position here at this board is based in him getting the Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #32
Yes, without Bernie, I don't even exist. That's exactly what I said. Scuba Mar 2016 #33
Oh I do, and I notice that if Bernie loses the nomination, you will have where to go? Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #34
I live in a purple state, and as I've posted here many times, if Hillary is our nominee .... Scuba Mar 2016 #36
Agreed, it is thanks to Bernie that I gave up my cynicism and not only voting but donated, and... GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #35
/ This Right Here / Scuba Mar 2016 #37
Who needs to "study up". She hid under the bed for a long time because rhett o rick Mar 2016 #15
Why does she say it's the most important job in the world? polly7 Mar 2016 #4
And Hillarians think the wide perception that she will change her story at the drop of a hat is due Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #5
They see right wing conspiracies everywhere. rhett o rick Mar 2016 #17
So is this a thread where you are angry that she wont debate Bernie or Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #7
This is the thread where we ask her to live up to her own words. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #9
Outrageously high expectations. She couldn't even remember if she supported the Reagan's disgusting rhett o rick Mar 2016 #18
Well, then, we can remind her. But it's a lot easier if your positions don't change for expediency. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #21
She can't remember from week to week what were "her own words" pdsimdars Mar 2016 #22
it's a good thing there is video and the Internet. Perhaps a good time for a new type highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #24
"Interesting juxtaposition...You should be willing to debate anytime, anywhere". Her own words. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #8
Sorry I kind of derailed it with my post, that's just a personal peeve of mine. polly7 Mar 2016 #13
Kicked and recommended for "Profiles in Courage." Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #16
Also, she talked about how the race wasn't decided and why should she drop out. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #23
I was about to post a well known saying about karma BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #26
"There has been this urgency to end this, and historically it makes no sense" BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #25
What a Coward!! n/t Herman4747 Mar 2016 #38
 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
10. Did you miss the second day of class, in which you were to have learned...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 04:56 PM
Mar 2016

that it's also the job of the underdog to point out that the frontrunner is functioning as a coward? Because that's actually a thing that's done. There is one way around it, however. You guessed it--she could agree to the debate.

procon

(15,805 posts)
19. Don't skip the part that says you can't call your opponent names in a debate.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 05:17 PM
Mar 2016

Why would the front runner allow themselves to be manipulated or steered into giving the runner up an opportunity to advance? She has nothing to gain in debating Sanders, but as the 2nd place candidate it would certainly might give him a boost. That would be an unforced error on Clinton's part, and she's savvy enough not to give her opponent any chance to look like he's in position to challenge her lead.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
20. She does have something to gain by debating Sanders, and I just posted it.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 05:21 PM
Mar 2016

Read again. In addition to having a chance to actually show that her policies are better than his (and she should want to do this, yes?), she also has a chance to keep from being labelled a coward. We're back to Politics 101 again, and the coward label is ALWAYS implicit in that particular transaction. Don't want to be called a coward? Then debate. If you're far enough ahead to ride out any storm created by the refusal to debate, then that's the calculus you've gone with. There's one valve handle that can be turned here--debate or don't.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
14. It is time for her to switch all focus to the GOP, show everybody she is ready to take
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 04:58 PM
Mar 2016

over as Executive.

Personally I want Bernie to win so he can just continue doing what he is doing, and then it is a win win regardless of which one gets the nomination.

The last thing this makes Hillary is a coward, but like you say, politics 101, duh.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
29. Yeah, the lines pretty much write themselves.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 07:13 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary's hypocrisy, whining and lying make easy targets.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
32. So your entire existence and position here at this board is based in him getting the
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 07:20 PM
Mar 2016

nomination.

Think about that for a minute.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
33. Yes, without Bernie, I don't even exist. That's exactly what I said.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 07:23 PM
Mar 2016

Sheeeze, do you even think about what you write?

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
34. Oh I do, and I notice that if Bernie loses the nomination, you will have where to go?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 07:24 PM
Mar 2016

I mean you have non stop criticized Hillary, are you then going to vote for her?

Campaign for her?

I welcome you if so, just seems unlikely.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
36. I live in a purple state, and as I've posted here many times, if Hillary is our nominee ....
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 07:51 PM
Mar 2016

.... I will hold my nose really, really tight and vote against the Republican nominee.

I will not campaign for her, nor I will not put a Hillary sign in my yard nor I will not send her a dime. She can leet Goldman Sachs fund her campaign. Or she can fund it herself. Hell, she's got plenty of dough.


And in case you haven't noticed, POTUS isn't the only office up for grabs this year. We've got a State Supreme Court race here in Wisconsin that is critical, Russ Feingold is running for Senate again and we've got a great guy to run for Assembly here in Wisconsin AD 40.

I can spend my political energies and meager donations on those candidates whom I believe will support the policies I support. Hillary doesn't do that, nor has she shown the kind of character traits I expect in any politician who will get my support.

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
35. Agreed, it is thanks to Bernie that I gave up my cynicism and not only voting but donated, and...
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 07:25 PM
Mar 2016

volunteered.

Never in my life would I have ever thought I would phonebank, donate, go to volunteer sessions. Thanks Bernie for igniting a Bern in me to try and fix this country.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
15. Who needs to "study up". She hid under the bed for a long time because
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 05:01 PM
Mar 2016

of the "if you're ahead, hide" theory of your politics 101. She had to come out eventually. Hard to Swift Boat from under the bed.

Just think of all the "misspeaks" she can deliver in one more debate.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
4. Why does she say it's the most important job in the world?
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 04:52 PM
Mar 2016

Every country has a leader ....... what makes her think she's so much more special?

I think that her attitude probably explains a lot of why she found it so easy to hurt so many in countries she has no business in.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
5. And Hillarians think the wide perception that she will change her story at the drop of a hat is due
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 04:52 PM
Mar 2016

a vast right-wing conspiracy.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
17. They see right wing conspiracies everywhere.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 05:09 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders says we need to strengthen SS, and they think it's a right wing conspiracy. They prefer to watch Clinton tap dance around the question. "We need to think about a way in which we can look at the possibility of doing something now or in the future to assure that SS is a program going forward. And I feel strongly about that."

"And we shouldn't rush in too quickly to help people suffering, but change medical marijuana from Alpha tier to Tier 3 divided by something tiery to allow big pharma to provide more study so we can be absolutely certain that.... Sorry lost my train of thought. Please make your check out for $250,000 payable to cash."

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
7. So is this a thread where you are angry that she wont debate Bernie or
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 04:53 PM
Mar 2016

are we gonna see more here about how she would be "torn apart" by Trump?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. Outrageously high expectations. She couldn't even remember if she supported the Reagan's disgusting
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 05:12 PM
Mar 2016

attitude toward AIDS and HIV or not. Her handlers can't keep her in check.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
24. it's a good thing there is video and the Internet. Perhaps a good time for a new type
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 05:29 PM
Mar 2016

of politician.

An authentic one.

That's another reason that Bernie is the better choice, now and in the general election. We know where he stands. We know he's consistent.

Who is going to fight Climate Change, like the end of the world scenario it is quickly becoming?
Who is going to really fight for some kind of economic prosperity for all Americans, not just the few?
Who is going to keep us from our usual interventionist ways in too much war?
Who is really going to be steadfast in fighting racial injustice?

I know my answer, and I remain confident (through his actions and words over so many years) that he will remain true to all these causes.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
13. Sorry I kind of derailed it with my post, that's just a personal peeve of mine.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 04:57 PM
Mar 2016

Yeah .......... she's definitely not living up to her words there, is she?

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
23. Also, she talked about how the race wasn't decided and why should she drop out.
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 05:27 PM
Mar 2016

And that there was only a difference of 200 between them in delegate count.

Deja Vu

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
26. I was about to post a well known saying about karma
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 05:32 PM
Mar 2016

But somebody would try to twist it and alert on me for a sexist attack on Hillary.

BernieforPres2016

(3,017 posts)
25. "There has been this urgency to end this, and historically it makes no sense"
Mon Mar 28, 2016, 05:30 PM
Mar 2016

Great find on the debate any time, anywhere comment. Does anybody think if Bernie was the one trying to duck a debate in NY and had this statement in his past that MSNBC wouldn't be running a clip of it every 15 minutes?

Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»#WhichHillary? "[to be pr...