2016 Postmortem
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Bernie Sanders Campaign Claims He Didnt Compete In States He Actually Competed In
By Samantha Lachman
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Jeff Weaver, Sanders campaign manager, said on the call that their campaign chose not to compete in eight of the 32 states that have held primaries or caucuses so far. Weaver identified Texas, Alabama, Virginia, Tennessee, Mississippi, Arkansas, Georgia and Louisiana as the states where they didnt mount a challenge to Clinton, who swept all of the Southern contests; he said the Sanders campaign did not broadcast television advertisements in those eight states or have a big campaign presence.
Almost all of Secretary Clintons delegate lead come from states where she faced little or no competition, said Tad Devine, Sanders senior campaign strategist. Her grasp now on the nomination is almost entirely on the basis of victories in states where Bernie Sanders did not compete.
Devine and Weavers claim depends on ones definition of the word compete during the Southern primaries, where Clinton netted over 300 delegates.
Sanders held rallies in Austin and Dallas. He held multiple events in Virginia. He held rallies in Atlanta, Georgia. He also visited Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana. His campaign had field offices in most of those states. If he wasnt actually competing in the South, where his campaign always acknowledged he faced an uphill battle because of Clintons popularity among African-American voters, then why bother visiting?
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His campaigns dismissal of his losses in the Southern primaries also doesnt account for Clintons wins in Ohio, South Carolina, Massachusetts, Arizona, North Carolina and Florida, which Sanders visited multiple times and where his campaign ran television ads.
The rhetoric about not competing in the South is at odds with Sanders own argument that the Democratic Party should advance a 50-state strategy and Sanders comment after the Nevada caucus that his campaign would be competing in 11 states all across this country on Super Tuesday.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-campaign_us_56f98f5ae4b0a372181aa375
LexVegas
(6,059 posts)GeorgiaPeanuts
(2,353 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)livetohike
(22,138 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)They know he can't win, but they still want to line their pockets.
livetohike
(22,138 posts)unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)Still waiting for your apology for the last negative OP. But hey it is only Sanders and his supporters who love all that negativity.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1599780
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)If you watched the vid you would have seen a campaign aid coming to let Sanders know Jane was directly behind him. He only stated don't stand there, where he could have accidentally hit her (he does use his hands a lot while talking). Couples who have been together for years are comfortable enough with each other to be honest and direct. But you choose to see something were nothing existed and now you double down.
You do Clinton a disservice by using trump like campaign attacks. But do continue on.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)We did watch the entire video and the video speaks for itself
reddread
(6,896 posts)not without a conscience transplant.
and whatever else may be missing altogether.
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)As the clock keeps ticking, his campaign's argument that he can still win becomes weaker. Now his campaign is trying to frame an argument that says "We won most of the states that we really tried to win, so the superdelegates should go with us because of that." Classic goalpost-moving stuff.
I do find it ironic that the same crowd that was outraged at the prospect of superdelegates throwing the election for Hillary are completely cool with such a travesty of democracy favoring their guy.
HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)more of the same from the usual suspects yet again...
boston bean
(36,221 posts)HumanityExperiment
(1,442 posts)of the remaining primaries Bernie needs 56% in each contest to win
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)in the 12 days you've been here.
Well done.
Sid
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)oasis
(49,376 posts)In way over their heads.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)This is a good report on the silliness of the Sanders campaign claim http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/bernie-sanders-campaign-offers-awkward-take-state-the-race
Its easy to imagine folks from Team Clinton saying they werent exactly going all out to win in Idaho and Utah states Sanders won easily but competitive candidates for national office dont get to use that as an excuse when things arent going as well as theyd like.
At its root, Devines argument is that Team Sanders identified a series of early, delegate-rich states, but they chose not to bother with them. Thats not just a bad argument; its the kind of message thats probably going to irritate quite a few Sanders supporters who expect more from their team.
Making matters slightly worse, Tad Devines pitch isnt altogether accurate. In Virginia, for example one of the eight primaries in which he says Team Sanders chose not to compete plenty of campaign watchers know the senator actually made an effort in the commonwealth and lost anyway. The senator also campaigned in Texas, which is another one of the states Devine said the campaign wrote off.
As for the argument that Sanders wins in every place that we compete with her, even taken at face value, its not an especially compelling argument: Team Sanders made a real effort to win in states like Arizona, Nevada, Ohio, and Massachusetts, but he lost in each of them.
Dont be too surprised if Devine walks back his comments today. Its just not a message that does Team Sanders any favors.
Update: Devine also said the Sanders campaign chose to compete for state victories, rather than compete for delegate victories. I have no idea why the campaign would deliberately choose to compete by the wrong metric that would lead to defeat, but if I were a die-hard Sanders backer, this kind of rhetoric would be incredibly frustrating.
This excuse is so very weak
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)hundreds of millions in free favorable press takes a LOT of resources. You also have to overcome the beating of the drum that Clinton is the nominee.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511600598
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)ThePhilosopher04
(1,732 posts)bother to look up the amount of campaign spending in each southern state. She's doing the bidding of the establishment by making a false attack against Bernie. They have no fucking shame.
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