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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:59 AM Mar 2016

Does Clinton's Cheerleaders understand what it means to mount a real challenge (compete) in a state?

When you don't have the name recognition of your opponent, you don't have the Democratic Establishment in your pocket, you don't have the corporate media hacks and surrogates (including lobbyists) cheerleading for you and attacking your opponent what does it mean to mount a challenge to your opponent?

Earth to Maddow - opening a couple of offices isn't really mounting a challenge.

Clinton, having the state political network in her pocket had a major advantage b/c they could help get out the vote for her.

And Bernie doesn't have unlimited funding (i.e., the 1% in his pocket) so he has to target his resources in certain states.

Is Maddow a few bricks shy of a full load or just willing to advance any asinine argument to earn her corporate paycheck? My money is on a little of both.

I'm so glad to see we have an objective interviewer (Maddow) in the next Clinton/Sanders Corporate Dog and Pony Show.

If I taught a journalism class, Maddow's show would be a goldmine for lectures on the lack of journalistic integrity. Ms. Selective Outrage, aka Clinton Cheerleader, is such a media whore. Update: And so is Chris Matthews, Chris Hayes, Anderson Cooper and many others.

Update: For your reading pleasure:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Whores_Online

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Does Clinton's Cheerleaders understand what it means to mount a real challenge (compete) in a state? (Original Post) Skwmom Mar 2016 OP
Lol... Don't like the facts she presents, call her crazy. Agschmid Mar 2016 #1
And calls her a whore. emulatorloo Mar 2016 #4
I didn't even get that far... Agschmid Mar 2016 #5
Agreed... but then, I've learned to ingore most of your posts. Solves that problem quickly. Bubzer Mar 2016 #8
More "discussion" I see. Agschmid Mar 2016 #10
That's your perspective. I've done a great job of glossing over the vast majority of your posts. Bubzer Mar 2016 #14
Results... Major Nikon Mar 2016 #2
Summary of this post: Damn you, Rachel Maddow! Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #3
No... Summary of the OP: Damn your, lack of journalistic integrity Rachel Maddow Bubzer Mar 2016 #6
So do I get to call you a 'Whore' since I disagree w your post? emulatorloo Mar 2016 #7
False framing. You're intentionally divorcing the word "media" from the word "whore". Bubzer Mar 2016 #9
Oh look a threat of alert stalking... Agschmid Mar 2016 #11
More false framing. Bye! Bubzer Mar 2016 #16
I happen to agree with buzz unapatriciated Mar 2016 #17
Do you not know what a rhetorical question is? emulatorloo Mar 2016 #20
You dont? But you ask them permission to? Bubzer Mar 2016 #23
... emulatorloo Mar 2016 #25
You started the "game" by trying to frame the poster as calling Maddow a whore... Bubzer Mar 2016 #28
Sorry, Yr not going to bait me into saying something 'alertable' emulatorloo Mar 2016 #31
Ooooh I sense some projection there. I'm guessing you alert stalk dont you? You dont have to answer. Bubzer Mar 2016 #34
I don't call posters 'whores'. I call out posters who call others 'whores' emulatorloo Mar 2016 #36
I also understand the distiction between "whore" and "media whore"... Bubzer Mar 2016 #37
do you not understand context and meaning. unapatriciated Mar 2016 #24
Poster called Maddow a whore, I don't care what qualifying adjectives are used. emulatorloo Mar 2016 #27
They didn't but if your ok with unapatriciated Mar 2016 #29
So, words only matter when emulatorloo says so... okay. Bubzer Mar 2016 #32
Whore is whore and we don't call women whores on DU emulatorloo Mar 2016 #13
No. "Media whore" has clearly different connotations... Bubzer Mar 2016 #18
Ever heard of a corporate, attention, or friend whore? n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #41
The term media whore is totally different than unapatriciated Mar 2016 #12
I didn't call the poster a whore. I asked a rhetorical question. emulatorloo Mar 2016 #15
You asked if it would be ok since they used it. unapatriciated Mar 2016 #21
Exactly right! Bubzer Mar 2016 #22
In other words, if, like Sanders, you have few friends, it's very difficult to be President. randome Mar 2016 #19
I think Rachel Maddow is hands down the best in the business. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #26
I think she used to be. I think she's nowhere near as good as she once was... Bubzer Mar 2016 #30
The only thing that's changed is the Sanders supporters perspective. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #35
That's far from true. Maddow's numbers were declining before Hillary or Bernie even announced a run. Bubzer Mar 2016 #38
If she represents the best, God help us. n/t Skwmom Mar 2016 #40
"Media whore" demwing Mar 2016 #33
Ding ding ding! Bubzer Mar 2016 #39
Calling Rachel Maddow ANY kind of whore MineralMan Mar 2016 #42
so Bernie lost those states because he couldn't win them, not geek tragedy Mar 2016 #43

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
14. That's your perspective. I've done a great job of glossing over the vast majority of your posts.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:26 AM
Mar 2016

It's saved me quite a bit of time! Especially given your "quality, articulate and well thought out discussion"...
note the

Have a great day!

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
2. Results...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:10 AM
Mar 2016

On Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:02 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

Does Clinton's Cheerleaders understand what it means to mount a real challenge (compete) in a state?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511600598

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Wow, disagree with Maddow all you want, but is calling her a whore really necessary? Over the top. (Last line of post.)

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:10 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The use of media whore has been around for a long time, the term has been used to describe males as well as females. It is very different than calling someone a "whore"
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Media whore is a common phrase on this site and not gendered in this context. The OP is not referring to prostitution but this common definition: "debase oneself by doing something for unworthy motives, typically to make money: he had never whored after money." I would not have used the word for Maddow however, precisely to avoid this misunderstanding.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It is a common, if unfortunate, phrase. I've seen men called media whores too. I choose not to use the term but it is not sexist in the way it would have been had the OP left the "media" part out.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Agreed, the last line was ott and completely unnecessary. They'll let it slide anyway.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm not the naughty word police. Context matters.

emulatorloo

(44,096 posts)
7. So do I get to call you a 'Whore' since I disagree w your post?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:15 AM
Mar 2016

Just because you disagree w the story does not make Maddow a 'whore.'

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
9. False framing. You're intentionally divorcing the word "media" from the word "whore".
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:22 AM
Mar 2016

The phrase "media whore" is used regularly on this site, regardless of gender or network it's being attributed to.

And you can damn well bet, I'll alert on it, if you do as you've suggested.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
17. I happen to agree with buzz
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:29 AM
Mar 2016

To say you do not understand the meaning of media whore and threaten to call a fellow duer a whore is wrong. The two are a very different. Media whore has been used for a very long time in regards to sensationalizing just for ratings regardless of gender.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
28. You started the "game" by trying to frame the poster as calling Maddow a whore...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:42 AM
Mar 2016

instead of a media whore... a well known and well understood differentiation. You seemed to think no one would catch you and call you on your bullshit... but you got caught. Feel free to skitter back under your rock.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
34. Ooooh I sense some projection there. I'm guessing you alert stalk dont you? You dont have to answer.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:55 AM
Mar 2016

I don't really care and it doesn't really matter. See the difference here is you're trying to stir up shit... trying to create an issue that doesn't exist. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me a bit to learn you were the one to alert on the post.

Look, I'm not interested in getting you to say something 'alertable'... in fact, I'm really not interested in further conversation with you at all... however, I'll re-state my warning: if you call the poster of the OP (or anyone else) a whore, I'll absolutely alert on you. If you're not going to do that, then we're done here.

emulatorloo

(44,096 posts)
36. I don't call posters 'whores'. I call out posters who call others 'whores'
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:05 AM
Mar 2016

I am sure you understand the distinction.

Have a nice day.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
37. I also understand the distiction between "whore" and "media whore"...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:10 AM
Mar 2016

But I guess this is another case where distinctions only matter when emulatorloo says they do...

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
24. do you not understand context and meaning.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:35 AM
Mar 2016

You are stuck on a root word that does not mean the same as what the poster used.
I don't care for it myself, but language is ever changing and the op did not call Rachel a "whore".

emulatorloo

(44,096 posts)
27. Poster called Maddow a whore, I don't care what qualifying adjectives are used.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:41 AM
Mar 2016

If you are ok with that, fine. Have a nice day

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
18. No. "Media whore" has clearly different connotations...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:30 AM
Mar 2016

or are you pretending to be completely new to politics? Because, I could totally believe that.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
12. The term media whore is totally different than
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:24 AM
Mar 2016

calling someone a whore. It has been used to describe both genders in the media for some time. It is a common term when describing journalists or others in the media who sensationalize just for ratings. It is not one I would use personally but it is not the same as you calling a poster a whore.

unapatriciated

(5,390 posts)
21. You asked if it would be ok since they used it.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:31 AM
Mar 2016

We all know the meaning of both and they are not the same.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
19. In other words, if, like Sanders, you have few friends, it's very difficult to be President.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:31 AM
Mar 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
30. I think she used to be. I think she's nowhere near as good as she once was...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:47 AM
Mar 2016

and her ratings (current and historical) would seem to bear that out.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
35. The only thing that's changed is the Sanders supporters perspective.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:04 AM
Mar 2016

She's still the best on the Left IMO.

Bubzer

(4,211 posts)
38. That's far from true. Maddow's numbers were declining before Hillary or Bernie even announced a run.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:12 AM
Mar 2016

I will grant that her numbers dropped more after the primary began, though.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
33. "Media whore"
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:54 AM
Mar 2016

As you noted, any media personality, regardless of gender, who exchanges journalistic integrity for a paycheck, is a media whore.

In fact, I'd say that there are significantly more media whores than journalists, by a very large margin.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
42. Calling Rachel Maddow ANY kind of whore
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 02:52 PM
Mar 2016

is so far over the top, I can't even begin to express my disgust with this. I'm sorry, but a disagreement with her does not call for such calumny to be heaped on her head.

You should consider self-deleting your post, in my opinion.

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