2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDoes Clinton's Cheerleaders understand what it means to mount a real challenge (compete) in a state?
When you don't have the name recognition of your opponent, you don't have the Democratic Establishment in your pocket, you don't have the corporate media hacks and surrogates (including lobbyists) cheerleading for you and attacking your opponent what does it mean to mount a challenge to your opponent?
Earth to Maddow - opening a couple of offices isn't really mounting a challenge.
Clinton, having the state political network in her pocket had a major advantage b/c they could help get out the vote for her.
And Bernie doesn't have unlimited funding (i.e., the 1% in his pocket) so he has to target his resources in certain states.
Is Maddow a few bricks shy of a full load or just willing to advance any asinine argument to earn her corporate paycheck? My money is on a little of both.
I'm so glad to see we have an objective interviewer (Maddow) in the next Clinton/Sanders Corporate Dog and Pony Show.
If I taught a journalism class, Maddow's show would be a goldmine for lectures on the lack of journalistic integrity. Ms. Selective Outrage, aka Clinton Cheerleader, is such a media whore. Update: And so is Chris Matthews, Chris Hayes, Anderson Cooper and many others.
Update: For your reading pleasure:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Whores_Online
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)What else is new?
emulatorloo
(44,096 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)The shit that flys as "discussion" these days.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)It seems you also don't really ignore it all that well...
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)It's saved me quite a bit of time! Especially given your "quality, articulate and well thought out discussion"...
note the
Have a great day!
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)On Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:02 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
Does Clinton's Cheerleaders understand what it means to mount a real challenge (compete) in a state?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511600598
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
Wow, disagree with Maddow all you want, but is calling her a whore really necessary? Over the top. (Last line of post.)
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:10 AM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The use of media whore has been around for a long time, the term has been used to describe males as well as females. It is very different than calling someone a "whore"
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Media whore is a common phrase on this site and not gendered in this context. The OP is not referring to prostitution but this common definition: "debase oneself by doing something for unworthy motives, typically to make money: he had never whored after money." I would not have used the word for Maddow however, precisely to avoid this misunderstanding.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It is a common, if unfortunate, phrase. I've seen men called media whores too. I choose not to use the term but it is not sexist in the way it would have been had the OP left the "media" part out.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Agreed, the last line was ott and completely unnecessary. They'll let it slide anyway.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I'm not the naughty word police. Context matters.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)emulatorloo
(44,096 posts)Just because you disagree w the story does not make Maddow a 'whore.'
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)The phrase "media whore" is used regularly on this site, regardless of gender or network it's being attributed to.
And you can damn well bet, I'll alert on it, if you do as you've suggested.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)To say you do not understand the meaning of media whore and threaten to call a fellow duer a whore is wrong. The two are a very different. Media whore has been used for a very long time in regards to sensationalizing just for ratings regardless of gender.
emulatorloo
(44,096 posts)I do not call people "whores".
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)Not playing your game, Bubzer.
Have a nice day.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)instead of a media whore... a well known and well understood differentiation. You seemed to think no one would catch you and call you on your bullshit... but you got caught. Feel free to skitter back under your rock.
emulatorloo
(44,096 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)I don't really care and it doesn't really matter. See the difference here is you're trying to stir up shit... trying to create an issue that doesn't exist. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me a bit to learn you were the one to alert on the post.
Look, I'm not interested in getting you to say something 'alertable'... in fact, I'm really not interested in further conversation with you at all... however, I'll re-state my warning: if you call the poster of the OP (or anyone else) a whore, I'll absolutely alert on you. If you're not going to do that, then we're done here.
emulatorloo
(44,096 posts)I am sure you understand the distinction.
Have a nice day.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)But I guess this is another case where distinctions only matter when emulatorloo says they do...
unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)You are stuck on a root word that does not mean the same as what the poster used.
I don't care for it myself, but language is ever changing and the op did not call Rachel a "whore".
emulatorloo
(44,096 posts)If you are ok with that, fine. Have a nice day
unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)coloring the truth, it's ok with me. Just try to stay within the lines.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)emulatorloo
(44,096 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)or are you pretending to be completely new to politics? Because, I could totally believe that.
PonyUp
(1,680 posts)unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)calling someone a whore. It has been used to describe both genders in the media for some time. It is a common term when describing journalists or others in the media who sensationalize just for ratings. It is not one I would use personally but it is not the same as you calling a poster a whore.
emulatorloo
(44,096 posts)unapatriciated
(5,390 posts)We all know the meaning of both and they are not the same.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]No squirrels were harmed in the making of this post. Yet.[/center][/font][hr]
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Bubzer
(4,211 posts)and her ratings (current and historical) would seem to bear that out.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)She's still the best on the Left IMO.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)I will grant that her numbers dropped more after the primary began, though.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)As you noted, any media personality, regardless of gender, who exchanges journalistic integrity for a paycheck, is a media whore.
In fact, I'd say that there are significantly more media whores than journalists, by a very large margin.
Bubzer
(4,211 posts)MineralMan
(146,281 posts)is so far over the top, I can't even begin to express my disgust with this. I'm sorry, but a disagreement with her does not call for such calumny to be heaped on her head.
You should consider self-deleting your post, in my opinion.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)because he didn't contest them?