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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:02 PM Mar 2016

NY Times: Mrs. Clinton Tends To Do Best in Affluent Areas (more than $100K a year)

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Affluence

Mrs. Clinton tends to do best in affluent areas.
It was even true in Mr. Sanders’s big wins this last week — she fared better in places like Seattle’s King County and Park City’s Summit County in Utah.

The model estimates that Mrs. Clinton would fare 27 points better in a county where 100 percent of households made more than $100,000 a year than she would in a demographically similar county where no households were so well off. She also does better in places where the finance industry is strong.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/29/upshot/bernie-sanders-faces-tougher-terrain-after-a-big-week.html?login=email&_r=0&mtrref=query.nytimes.com
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NY Times: Mrs. Clinton Tends To Do Best in Affluent Areas (more than $100K a year) (Original Post) amborin Mar 2016 OP
Quelle surprise. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #1
Is that how she won what you guys call "the Confederacy"? nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #2
A lot of temporarily embarrassed millionaires down in these parts... nt GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #3
+1000 Firebrand Gary Mar 2016 #4
Hey--it's a great article, even if the thread headline doesn't match the article. Kick and rec! MADem Mar 2016 #7
No that one is due Gwhittey Mar 2016 #9
I don't believe those demographics were damaged so much by the Arizona Voter Suppression Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #15
"One thing Sanders has going for him are the anti-obama Democrats." Hortensis Mar 2016 #34
The too big to fail crowd! oldandhappy Mar 2016 #5
Very conservative democrats. thereismore Mar 2016 #8
All those affluent minorities. nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #24
We are so privileged. bravenak Mar 2016 #36
This is a great article--it's very encouraging for HRC supporters! MADem Mar 2016 #6
That's quite some spin. synergie Mar 2016 #20
The next 3 primaries are in states where Bernie is heavily favored. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #10
"Heavily favored?" Do you have a source for that assertion? TIA. nt MADem Mar 2016 #14
Perhaps in some portion of a paragraph somewhere in an article that says the exact synergie Mar 2016 #21
She will do well in Manhattan, not so well in Brooklyn. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #11
good news! DemonGoddess Mar 2016 #12
"Our model estimates that Mrs. Clinton would win around 54 percent of the remaining delegates" DanTex Mar 2016 #13
K&R for Hillary! Cary Mar 2016 #16
Wonderful article! KitSileya Mar 2016 #17
Sounds right. "Selfish for Hillary" ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #18
Thanks for sharing murielm99 Mar 2016 #19
Are Hillary Supporters Conservative Demcrats, Low Information Voters, or old/well-off? quantumjunkie Mar 2016 #22
Than you for bringing this article to our attention! What great news for HRC, and how synergie Mar 2016 #23
DU rec... SidDithers Mar 2016 #25
AA's are the most conservative of the D voting block thebeautifulstruggle Mar 2016 #26
Not sure why you felt the need to change the headline. Control-Z Mar 2016 #27
REAL TITLE-->Bernie Sanders Faces Tougher Terrain After a Big Week riversedge Mar 2016 #28
Awesome sauce!!! GusBob Mar 2016 #29
K&R! Great article for Hillary! Amimnoch Mar 2016 #30
It looks as if the future is Hillary's! Walk away Mar 2016 #31
I love seeing positive things about one_voice Mar 2016 #32
Happy dance!!! Yay. Laser102 Mar 2016 #33
K&R! bravenak Mar 2016 #35
Great news for Hillary! brer cat Mar 2016 #37
Great article! NastyRiffraff Mar 2016 #38
Yes! Won't be long fun n serious Mar 2016 #39
Excellent article! sheshe2 Mar 2016 #40
K&R TexasTowelie Mar 2016 #41
No kidding - 1% areas. jwirr Mar 2016 #42
Sure, they're all just fine with status-quo. NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #43

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. Hey--it's a great article, even if the thread headline doesn't match the article. Kick and rec!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:11 PM
Mar 2016

If you're a Clinton supporter, who doesn't want to see a headline that says:


Bernie Sanders Faces Tougher Terrain After a Big Week

And then, follows up with this:


Clinton Favored the Rest of the Way
Hillary Clinton could win about 54 percent of the remaining delegates, according to estimates for coming primaries based on demographic trends. She needs 44 percent to win a majority of pledged delegates.



I mean, really--what's not to love?


 

Gwhittey

(1,377 posts)
9. No that one is due
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:17 PM
Mar 2016

To lies spread by media to paint Sanders as a racist who. This drove off many black Americans in SC and even to today they are still trying to paint him as such. There was news articles claiming he was rude to BML people and that photos of him being arrested for Civil Rights Activism in 1960s where false. This agenda was pushed by Hillary surrogates down here in SC. And people who are less informed believed it and still do.

Uncle Joe

(58,349 posts)
15. I don't believe those demographics were damaged so much by the Arizona Voter Suppression
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:32 PM
Mar 2016

that took place in that state.

Perhaps that's why Hillary never came out and condemned it?



Arizona 'voter suppression' petition among fastest to reach 100,000 signatures




PHOENIX - The recent Arizona 'voter suppression' petition was among the fastest to reach 100,000 signatures to the White House.

If you're unfamiliar with the petition, it alleges voter suppression in the Arizona Presidential Preference Election, held last week. After the petition reached its signature goal of 100,000 online signatures, the White House is expected to issue a response.

According to this spreadsheet, the petition ranks among four of the most popular petitions on the website. The petition was started Tuesday and reached the goal Thursday morning.

READ: White House to respond to petition alleging voter suppression in Arizona

The petition asked the White House to investigate possible voter fraud and suppression of Democratic voters specifically:


(snip)

http://www.12news.com/news/politics/arizona-voter-suppression-petition-among-fastest-to-reach-100000-signatures/106017800




The demographics most affected were the poor, working class, Latino and Hispanic communities, along with same day voting people.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. "One thing Sanders has going for him are the anti-obama Democrats."
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 04:01 PM
Mar 2016

Arizona is a pretty conservative state, so this is a really good thing. It iseems very likely that Sanders drew a sizeable chunk of voters who would normally go for Trump. Yay, Bernie and yay, Democrats! This is the kind of synergy that can win elections.


MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. This is a great article--it's very encouraging for HRC supporters!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:07 PM
Mar 2016
Diversity
Mrs. Clinton fares best in areas with large numbers of Hispanic or black voters. She does better among these voters in the South than in the North, but it’s nonetheless an advantage for her in California and along the Acela Corridor, where there is an above-average percentage of nonwhite voters.

The model picks up on Mrs. Clinton’s strength among nonwhite voters in a few ways, but the bottom line is that she has won every primary where white voters represent a below-average share of the electorate. She has won all but one county where nonwhite voters represented a majority of eligible voters in a primary — as is now the case in California as a whole.

Her big win in Arizona might be particularly indicative of her likely strength in Southern California and the state’s Central Valley.
 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
20. That's quite some spin.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:57 PM
Mar 2016

I guess this portion of the article also wasn't deemed worthy of snipping.

"Mr. Sanders has generally fared poorly in the South and Appalachia, but he has tended to do better in a surprising spot: areas where there are large numbers of the old registered Democrats who vote Republican in presidential elections, but nonetheless find themselves trapped in a Democratic primary thanks to a closed or semi-closed system.

These conservative voters appear to be choosing Mr. Sanders in big numbers. You can see the traces of it in the stark increase in Mr. Sanders’s support when you cross from Georgia into the Florida Panhandle, a state with a closed primary and party registration. You can see it along the borders of Oklahoma, and along the North Carolina border as well. It shows up in another way: the large numbers of voters who are voting for “uncommitted” or a minor candidate.

It’s not entirely clear whether these voters actually support Mr. Sanders. The exit polls in Oklahoma showed Mr. Sanders winning big — 59 percent to 24 percent — among the large number (28 percent) of voters who wanted the next president to change to less liberal policies. "

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
12. good news!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:23 PM
Mar 2016
Our model estimates that Mrs. Clinton would win around 54 percent of the remaining delegates, not including nonstate contests like Puerto Rico.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
13. "Our model estimates that Mrs. Clinton would win around 54 percent of the remaining delegates"
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:25 PM
Mar 2016

Looking good for president HRC!

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
17. Wonderful article!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:40 PM
Mar 2016

Thank you for sharing the good news, Amborin.

"It might not look too daunting after he just won at least 70 percent of the vote in five states. But the remaining states aren’t especially welcoming for him. Mrs. Clinton’s delegate advantage seems likelier to grow over the rest of the contests than to shrink. The remaining states force Mr. Sanders to confront his big weaknesses: affluence, diversity, establishment-friendly areas and closed primary contests."


See? Go Hillary!
 

quantumjunkie

(244 posts)
22. Are Hillary Supporters Conservative Demcrats, Low Information Voters, or old/well-off?
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:04 PM
Mar 2016

It just baffles me why Hillary supporters prefer to stick their heads in the sand when it comes to facts when i always thought democrats were suppose to be "for the people" as liberals and progressives.

It just seems to be Hill supporters are fearful of change. Or at least too quick a change? That or they dont want change at all because they are happy where it is (e.g. well-off or old).

Just thinking aloud because it is a head scratcher why one would vote against their own interest by voting for Hillary as a democrat.

 

synergie

(1,901 posts)
23. Than you for bringing this article to our attention! What great news for HRC, and how
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:06 PM
Mar 2016

sad for Bernie.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
25. DU rec...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:09 PM
Mar 2016
Mrs. Clinton’s delegate advantage seems likelier to grow over the rest of the contests than to shrink.




Sid

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
27. Not sure why you felt the need to change the headline.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:29 PM
Mar 2016
Bernie Sanders Faces Tougher Terrain After a Big Week is the actual headline.

Thanks for the article whatever headline you felt fit to use!

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
31. It looks as if the future is Hillary's!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:23 PM
Mar 2016
So far, she has done about nine percentage points better in primaries than in caucuses, and three points better in closed contests than in open ones.

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
32. I love seeing positive things about
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:46 PM
Mar 2016

both our candidates. Great reading about their strengths. So refreshing. Thanks for posting.

Bernie Sanders had a great week. He won big in five Western caucuses: Washington, Alaska, Idaho, Utah and Hawaii


Just this last week, Mr. Sanders beat the expectations of this model in all five caucus states (but underperformed by more in Arizona). There’s no reason he can’t do it again


Mr. Sanders has fared best in areas known for supporting anti-establishment politics — going all the way back to Teddy Roosevelt, Robert La Follette and Henry Wallace.

This model uses the last three major third-party candidates as a proxy for anti-establishment sentiment: John Anderson in 1980, Ross Perot in 1992 and Ralph Nader in 2000. It has another variable for the “Nader Democrats” — the share of Nader voters in 2000 as a percentage of the total of Al Gore and Nader voters.

These are very powerful predictors of Mr. Sanders’s strength. Alaska, for instance, has the highest number of Nader Democrats and was the best state for Mr. Sanders outside his home state, Vermont.

It bodes well for Mr. Sanders in Oregon, Montana and Wisconsin


Mrs. Clinton tends to do best in affluent areas. It was even true in Mr. Sanders’s big wins this last week — she fared better in places like Seattle’s King County and Park City’s Summit County in Utah.

The model estimates that Mrs. Clinton would fare 27 points better in a county where 100 percent of households made more than $100,000 a year than she would in a demographically similar county where no households were so well off. She also does better in places where the finance industry is strong.

That’s good news for her in the Bay Area and the Northeastern corridor — two of the most affluent regions of the country. There has already been a sneak preview of her strength there: She won decisively in Northern Virginia and the Boston metropolitan area..


Mrs. Clinton fares best in areas with large numbers of Hispanic or black voters. She does better among these voters in the South than in the North, but it’s nonetheless an advantage for her in California and along the Acela Corridor, where there is an above-average percentage of nonwhite voters.

The model picks up on Mrs. Clinton’s strength among nonwhite voters in a few ways, but the bottom line is that she has won every primary where white voters represent a below-average share of the electorate. She has won all but one county where nonwhite voters represented a majority of eligible voters in a primary — as is now the case in California as a whole.

Her big win in Arizona might be particularly indicative of her likely strength in Southern California and the state’s Central Valley.
 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
35. K&R!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:44 PM
Mar 2016
Mrs. Clinton’s delegate advantage seems likelier to grow over the rest of the contests than to shrink.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
38. Great article!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:56 PM
Mar 2016

And great news for Hillary! Thanks for posting, amborin (although you did get the title wrong).

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
40. Excellent article!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:00 PM
Mar 2016
"Our model estimates that Mrs. Clinton would win around 54 percent of the remaining delegates"


Thanks amborin.

Brava Hillary. 2016~
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